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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:52 PM

QUOTE(Vestras @ Feb 8 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See, this is why we need the $15 Mega price point back, for Combiner core figures and beefier-than-deluxe figures.

Yeah but what price point would it sell at, considering Deluxes are now in the $12 to $16 range and Voyagers from $20 to $24?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE(Vestras @ Feb 8 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See, this is why we need the $15 Mega price point back, for Combiner core figures and beefier-than-deluxe figures.


At this point Deluxes almost ARE the Mega Price point. icon-waspy.gif

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#563 LiamA

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

That Bruticus looks flimsy.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:23 PM

I want this guy like now

Glad to see the Allspark is full of GEEWONERS icon-fire.gif seeing thim all pop out of the woodwork to gripe about Vortex color sceme makes me proud but I could of used your help last month..
I joke of course

Vortexes colors never stood out and he is not a color sceme I worry about changeing

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 8 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Vestras @ Feb 8 2012, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
See, this is why we need the $15 Mega price point back, for Combiner core figures and beefier-than-deluxe figures.

Yeah but what price point would it sell at, considering Deluxes are now in the $12 to $16 range and Voyagers from $20 to $24?

Randy


Oh, how I wish they cost that little. In Europe, double those prices and then you get your average Deluxe/Voyager price. It's no coincidence that Legends and Cyberverse sells out the fastest.

QUOTE(tec @ Feb 8 2012, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I want thjs guy like now

Glad to see the Allspark is full of GEEWONERS icon-fire.gif seeing thim all pop out of the woodwork to gripe about Votex color sceme makes me proud but I could of used your help last month..
I joke of course

Vortexes colors never stood out and he is not a color sceme I worry about changeing


I wonder if I will ever be able to grow old and tell to my great-grandchildren "Well, World War IV turned the Earth into a nuclear wasteland and at night mutant zombie vampire cyborgs are out hunting for blood, but at least Tec learned how to spell."

Then I realize, I am already 34. I won't live to see the day.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 08 February 2012 - 04:55 PM.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 8 2012, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Vortex makes me think of the Micromaster Helicopter Base.

http://tfwiki.net/wi...kyhopperToy.jpg


Yeah, more red less purple, but the tan is enough to suggest it to my mind.


-ZacWilliam, I'd love it if Takara did them all, especially Vortex, in more G1 colors, BUT the colors here a fine too and won't deter me even slightly from picking up this awesomeness the second it is available.


I will buy them too, apart from lack of blue on Vortex I am fine with the colors - and if that's the production color, I'll just repaint him myself. icon-hotrod.gif

And you are right, he does resemble Skyhopper's copter a bit in shape.

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QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 8 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.



That's the best thing about him!

Seriously, Blast Off is only one of these I really want, and his crazy over abundance of tailfins is pretty much the reason why.


And in-game, his tailfins on his shoulders will be constantly waving. icon-hotrod.gif

At this point I am sure we will get to play as all five Combaticons AND Bruticus in the game, since we haven't heard of many other new Cons save for Shockwave. They nicely fit the WFC categories - 2 fliers, a Soldier, a Leader and a Scout. I wonder what Swindle's speciality would be... selling weapons to the Autobots that explode when they try to shoot him with?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE(Razorsaw @ Feb 8 2012, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Voyagers aren't even possible for Generations' current model, so I'd expect some trade offs.


The venn diagram between people who are saying Voyagers aren't possible for Generations and those who were saying a month ago that combiners weren't possible for Generations looks like a perfect circle.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:09 PM

Heh

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:21 PM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Feb 8 2012, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The venn diagram between people who are saying Voyagers aren't possible for Generations and those who were saying a month ago that combiners weren't possible for Generations looks like a perfect circle.
A month ago it hadn't really occurred to anyone to have an all-deluxe Combiner.

The line is still all deluxe case assortments, and we've had no evidence to the contrary.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

Looking at that shot of Bruticus again, the rather large combiner pegs look sort-of similar to each other - which has me wondering: perhaps FoC Bruticus will be able to Scramble his limb components, much like the G1 and Energon combiners? icon-op.gif

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:53 PM

QUOTE(Demovere Xeno @ Feb 8 2012, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking at that shot of Bruticus again, the rather large combiner pegs look sort-of similar to each other - which has me wondering: perhaps FoC Bruticus will be able to Scramble his limb components, much like the G1 and Energon combiners? icon-op.gif


I really, really doubt it. Each limb would have to hide two separate fists somewhere in it. And I see evidence against that, not for it.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 11:35 PM

So awesome. All of my want, right there.

Plus it's all Cybertron forms, so I don't have to even think about feeling bad about paying all that for the still superbly awesome Fansproject sets. So sweet.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:31 AM

Y'know I was just thinking, it seems the toy is really intended to hold a static pose. Simalir to whatever he has in the concept art there...


And, that got me to thinking. Maybe Bruticus is the Devastator of today. I mean before they just came up with a more standardized way that combiners should combine that allowed poseability and durability as well.


Im kind of thinking, that if we get another combiner after this guy... I wouldn't be surprised if we got slightly smaller deluxes that were designed with more swievels instead. And more ratcheting joints.


I mean, when you think of it. If they were all each as big as classics bumblebee and most of that money was put more into the jointing. It may risk classics Galvatron style problems. But it may also mean nearly basic sized limbs that are a slight bigger. With really good poseability for the combined mode. And really secure jointing...


And, I wonder if this Bruticus is sort of an experiment and if it'll get better from here. Maybe us seeing much better combining deluxes in the future.


I still stand by the idea that Blastoff has a swieval joing right underneath a piece of space on his upper chest. I still think that part can turn and allow the legs to move upwards in a sideways position. Which allows that punch in the gut sort of pose.


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They're beautiful even when mistransformed and mis-merged. Toy Fair will show us Onslaught's proper torso and vehicle modes and then we all just settle in for 5 months of masturwaiting.



I sort of have a problem with this. I think their great figures and I agree that Onslaught must have some mistransformation. But seriously a lot of what we see in the vehicle mode seems to really be. All that you see here.

Yes, im certain that the back part of the armored vehicle is attached wrongly. That theres also a piece there thats supposed to raise up and cover some area. And, Im kind of hoping that he does have some sort of flexibility in how the cannon is perched on the top.


But that said it's very clear they butchered the vehicle mode. And, im not putting it down for that. But, I see a lot of clear, that is the way the toy will really look. Other than maybe one or two small things.


Now with the combined mode. I think what makes it look bad is the thighs seem sort of mistransformed. Or at least it seems like theres a range with how the thighs can be posed. And if you put the parts that seem to be Onslaught's upper thighs more inwards. Towards where Bruticus' underwear/groin is. Then Onslaught's lower legs would look much more proper as Bruticus thighs.


That said I think some of the arm kibble could be hidden on the upper parts of the chest. And the arms both vortex and Blastoff seem to have much more poseable range. But if you look carefully you can sort of figure it out.


The only other thing that would make it look better other than fixing how the thighs are transformed and how the arms are transformed. Is whether you can raise those wheels with the connector joints a bit. So the arms seem propped a bit higher. Instead of hanging so low.

But, mind It's absolutely hard to tell how much you can prop those arm connectors wheels upwards at an angle. It seems like maybe the connector itself has a joint. But maybe im wrong on that.


But some of what is transformed wrong is kind of evident. Push Onslaught's legs back a bit on the upper parts. And they hide behind Bruticus' groin a lot better. And Blastoffs arm definately has some range to alllow it to turn and have the fist point upwards. With an elbow.





Also Brawl's is mistransformed in the leg mode. The turret is upside down. If you notice. The upper part of the turret is really the foot. That piece that they mistakingly transformed into the foot, that looks really ugly. Is not the actually foot. The turret needs to be swivelled into the opposite direction. With the right foot piece aiming down. The part being used for the foot. Is really an piece that folds out to cover the exposure of that purple knee joint.


So in other words Brawl is clearly mistransformed there in foot mode!

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 03:35 AM

I hope Blast off's in OD green and NOT gold plastic...

even IF they did fix the formular...
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 04:08 AM

Looks like I might be wrong about Brawl being Mistransformed.


But the leg is odd to me. The turret clearly turns. And that butt piece that covers the knee connector. Looks a lot more like the arts feet than the tab that comes out of the cannon does.

So Im curious.
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Posted 09 February 2012 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE(LiamA @ Feb 8 2012, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That Bruticus looks flimsy.

He looks like his arms are about to fall off. Vehicle modes are OK, but the robot modes seem similarly flimsy.

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 02:42 PM

As long as it doesn't tip over, this thing is so bought

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Posted 09 February 2012 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Feb 7 2012, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well, it's still swappable--between a pimpslap hand and a gun.


Which is so obviously BETTER that I really shouldn't have even mentioned it.

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Posted 11 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

*waits patiently for updates and resists arguing about usefulness of combiners in combat*

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