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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#501 Gizmoboy

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:12 AM

I've just kind of been trolling through this whole thread waiting until we saw pics of all the parts. Now that I've seen them, I can't even begin to say how excited I am about this. I don't think I've been this excited about a hasbro product in a few years. Congrats on pulling money out of my wallet.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:16 AM

I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:21 AM

I don't hate him.

I want to touch him.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Feb 8 2012, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am thoroughly down with Vortex being not-gray. It really makes the combined mode work better. I mean, the torso is mostly gray. The other three limbs... are not gray. Thus, I definitely prefer the fourth limb to be not grey.


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I love the color of Vortex's chest in the concept art, but not as his primary or secondary color.

I will say his two swords and blade weapon are awesome, and he's gonna chop you up!

QUOTE(Kil @ Feb 8 2012, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?


I think he's quite great honestly. I just wish some of the colors were more like the concept. Doesn't mean they won't match in the game though.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:29 AM

I love how if you just got Brawl's Pistol and Swindle's gun. You could make a pretty Awesome Sniper rifle! icon-silverbolt.gif



I honestly really like Bruticus so far. The only thing I wish, is that it were possible for each seperate figure to have a bit more paint. Im not complaining, but thats about it. Considering that they did a good job in painting what needed to be painted im happy.

I just feel it would be nice if Vortex and Brawl's head were painted, and if those red helicopter blades on Vortex had some silver paint.



I'm gonna definately adding some more detail on these guys when I get them. Otherwise their nice the way they are.


My only real disapointment with Vortex. Is I doubt you can get the Helicopter blades to all turn upwards. Im pretty certain they can mount on his back. Despite it not being in the photography. Im just a little disapointed that you can't do it the same way like in the concept art. Due to a lack of an extra joint or two. To curve the blades upwards.

I'm absolutely fine with a tan Vortex. He just needs a bit of hand applied painting later on to be even closer to his concept artwork.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

Call me kooky, but I'm looking forward to owning Blast Off and Vortex. The rest I might track down just for the sake of a complete Bruticus, but those two are must buys for me. :-)
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:45 AM

I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.

Vortex is a rare specimen of the vicious helicopter shark.

Bruticus is just waiting for the right pose. (And the right transformation.)


QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 8 2012, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
while Vortex gets completely random-ass colors.
QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 8 2012, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
while Vortex gets completely random ass-colors.

Hehe.


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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.

If the gun is too big for individuals to carry, then how does it get out to the battlefield? I mean, unless the combiner never separates, but at that point, you effectively don't even have a combiner, just a big guy who doesn't transform.


QUOTE(Magnus @ Feb 8 2012, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I...hm. I guess there's a reason why the middle figure usually needs to be slightly bigger than the limbs.

I read this as "middle finger" and you wouldn't believe how confused I was.


QUOTE(Rust @ Feb 8 2012, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I'm just a bad G1 Fan.

I don't even notice or care that the Combaticons aren't the right colors. I just saw Bruticus, Brawl, and Swindle and my inner child squealed with glee.

That's all right. I'm a bad G1 fan, too. I can't even remember what color Vortex is "supposed" to be.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 8 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.



That's the best thing about him!

Seriously, Blast Off is only one of these I really want, and his crazy over abundance of tailfins is pretty much the reason why.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:59 AM

My Vortex and my Armada Optimus Prime are gonna shake hands with their ankles.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:02 AM

Vortex looks like a fun toy. Don't care much about the individual modes of the others. I also wish Vortex were in G1 colors, but I understand he's not "classics" either.

Is it even feasible that Bruticus has big guns sticking up on his back, or are those guns dedicated elsewhere?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:03 AM

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I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?


I hope they do.


But anyways, it seems like the Blade guns from Vortex go underneath the dual barrel's of Onslaughts cannon. Giving it two circular barrel tips as well as two bayonetts.


Pretty intersting. I really hope it can be back mounted. But you really need Vortex's blades to give the cannon circular barrel tips. An addition of blades makes it also a melee weapon when in hand. Which is pretty neat.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

The only thing that seriously looks off to me about the combined mode are the orang-utan arms. I'm still going to buy this gray-and-golden god of war!

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

I'm liking the individual bot modes, Bruticus.....not so much. I'm definately holding out for better pics before deciding yay or nay on these guys but I REALLY hope this guy can look better. As others have said he looks like a deluxe size PCC which at this scale just looks plain awful IMO.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:12 AM

Anyone else note that Vortex, still has his dual arm mounted machineguns?


The black components on his shoulders in the box art seem to be the machineguns. Their scuplted onto the toy but are unpainted.


Thats pretty sweet honestly. Because even though their a bit inconspicuous. It makes the dagger guns feel like a nice addition.


Considering he was always the torturer/interrorgator of the group. It is nice for him to have two daggers. And, im pretty happy that he still technically has his chainguns.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

Man, Blast-off is busy. Between all the fins and the gold - he's Donald Trump's space shuttle, I'll bet he's got a solid marble interior. Vortex is just not right. I can understand trying to liven up the colors, but man - they kept everything else in the same family and then ... Vortex. I'm taking solace in the fact that the real toys are nearly always more muted than the pictures and these two won't be quite so bright.

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Yes, that's his bloody point. Combiners are like siege machines. They can take the fire and provide cover for the foot soldiers while also devastating enemy fortifications. It's natural that they should have long-range capabilities, otherwise they'd be totally helpless against attacks from the air or from afar. Anyone who played strategy games could confirm that. Or well, just check ancient siege towers, they usually had ballistae in/on them and soldiers with bows/crossbows inside.


Sure, but it's not efficient at all. Just build an actual siege tower, or just use all the various big bombs the Transformers normally have.

The real reason the Combiners are there is to bash other Combiners over the head with radio towers and play godzilla with Optimus Prime.


Yeah, because a giant tower that can only be moved by a few dozen of your precious ground forces is far superior to something that can move and act on its own. icon-primal.gif I'm not arguing the primary purpose for gestalts in the fiction is to look cool but there are some battlefield advantages as well.
 
 
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:18 AM

The compromises of the combiner are to be expected with a team of all deluxes. That works for Liokaiser, Devastator, or Monstructor. Their torsos are two figures. For a scramble city team, you need a disparity in size between the leaders and others.

That said, I still like the look of the combiner and plan on buying two. One for Bruticus and one for customizing. I love Cheets' Computron idea.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:23 AM

Blast-Off's sculpting is insane! I don't think I've ever seen a shuttle mode with that much intricate detailing.

Vortex has a very mosquito-like appearance. I miss the grey though.

So the biggest question: how stable will Bruticus be? I hope he's got strong connections and some really good feet.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:28 AM

I am not feeling Blast-off at all. That is one weird toy.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

I can see where the color changes on Vortex aren't unprecedented, but I really don't like them, and don't understand why they made those changes in the game. Plus the toy color scheme takes the game scheme and makes it even more different from his usual colors. It's like, are we sure this isn't FoC G1 Over-Run? icon-waspy.gif

Blast-Off is neat. Hopefully the combiner can be made to look a bit better, but for being only about $60 to complete it I think I like it well enough.

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