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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#501 Gizmoboy

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:12 AM

I've just kind of been trolling through this whole thread waiting until we saw pics of all the parts. Now that I've seen them, I can't even begin to say how excited I am about this. I don't think I've been this excited about a hasbro product in a few years. Congrats on pulling money out of my wallet.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:16 AM

I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:21 AM

I don't hate him.

I want to touch him.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:24 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Feb 8 2012, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am thoroughly down with Vortex being not-gray. It really makes the combined mode work better. I mean, the torso is mostly gray. The other three limbs... are not gray. Thus, I definitely prefer the fourth limb to be not grey.


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I love the color of Vortex's chest in the concept art, but not as his primary or secondary color.

I will say his two swords and blade weapon are awesome, and he's gonna chop you up!

QUOTE(Kil @ Feb 8 2012, 09:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand what looks so bad about Bruticus that everyone apparently hates him?


I think he's quite great honestly. I just wish some of the colors were more like the concept. Doesn't mean they won't match in the game though.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:29 AM

I love how if you just got Brawl's Pistol and Swindle's gun. You could make a pretty Awesome Sniper rifle! icon-silverbolt.gif



I honestly really like Bruticus so far. The only thing I wish, is that it were possible for each seperate figure to have a bit more paint. Im not complaining, but thats about it. Considering that they did a good job in painting what needed to be painted im happy.

I just feel it would be nice if Vortex and Brawl's head were painted, and if those red helicopter blades on Vortex had some silver paint.



I'm gonna definately adding some more detail on these guys when I get them. Otherwise their nice the way they are.


My only real disapointment with Vortex. Is I doubt you can get the Helicopter blades to all turn upwards. Im pretty certain they can mount on his back. Despite it not being in the photography. Im just a little disapointed that you can't do it the same way like in the concept art. Due to a lack of an extra joint or two. To curve the blades upwards.

I'm absolutely fine with a tan Vortex. He just needs a bit of hand applied painting later on to be even closer to his concept artwork.


Otherwise. icon-silverbolt.gif
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

Call me kooky, but I'm looking forward to owning Blast Off and Vortex. The rest I might track down just for the sake of a complete Bruticus, but those two are must buys for me. :-)
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:45 AM

I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.

Vortex is a rare specimen of the vicious helicopter shark.

Bruticus is just waiting for the right pose. (And the right transformation.)


QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 8 2012, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
while Vortex gets completely random-ass colors.
QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Feb 8 2012, 04:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
while Vortex gets completely random ass-colors.

Hehe.


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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.

If the gun is too big for individuals to carry, then how does it get out to the battlefield? I mean, unless the combiner never separates, but at that point, you effectively don't even have a combiner, just a big guy who doesn't transform.


QUOTE(Magnus @ Feb 8 2012, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I...hm. I guess there's a reason why the middle figure usually needs to be slightly bigger than the limbs.

I read this as "middle finger" and you wouldn't believe how confused I was.


QUOTE(Rust @ Feb 8 2012, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess I'm just a bad G1 Fan.

I don't even notice or care that the Combaticons aren't the right colors. I just saw Bruticus, Brawl, and Swindle and my inner child squealed with glee.

That's all right. I'm a bad G1 fan, too. I can't even remember what color Vortex is "supposed" to be.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Feb 8 2012, 09:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My one complaint about Blast Off is that he just has way too many tail fins. Counting the ones on his guns, he's got seven. That's insane.



That's the best thing about him!

Seriously, Blast Off is only one of these I really want, and his crazy over abundance of tailfins is pretty much the reason why.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 09:59 AM

My Vortex and my Armada Optimus Prime are gonna shake hands with their ankles.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:02 AM

Vortex looks like a fun toy. Don't care much about the individual modes of the others. I also wish Vortex were in G1 colors, but I understand he's not "classics" either.

Is it even feasible that Bruticus has big guns sticking up on his back, or are those guns dedicated elsewhere?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:03 AM

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I'm guessing that the big combined gun plugs into Bruty's back and gives us the double guns.


...or is that a thing that's obvious to everyone else and I'm just slow?


I hope they do.


But anyways, it seems like the Blade guns from Vortex go underneath the dual barrel's of Onslaughts cannon. Giving it two circular barrel tips as well as two bayonetts.


Pretty intersting. I really hope it can be back mounted. But you really need Vortex's blades to give the cannon circular barrel tips. An addition of blades makes it also a melee weapon when in hand. Which is pretty neat.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

The only thing that seriously looks off to me about the combined mode are the orang-utan arms. I'm still going to buy this gray-and-golden god of war!

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:05 AM

I'm liking the individual bot modes, Bruticus.....not so much. I'm definately holding out for better pics before deciding yay or nay on these guys but I REALLY hope this guy can look better. As others have said he looks like a deluxe size PCC which at this scale just looks plain awful IMO.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:12 AM

Anyone else note that Vortex, still has his dual arm mounted machineguns?


The black components on his shoulders in the box art seem to be the machineguns. Their scuplted onto the toy but are unpainted.


Thats pretty sweet honestly. Because even though their a bit inconspicuous. It makes the dagger guns feel like a nice addition.


Considering he was always the torturer/interrorgator of the group. It is nice for him to have two daggers. And, im pretty happy that he still technically has his chainguns.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:14 AM

Man, Blast-off is busy. Between all the fins and the gold - he's Donald Trump's space shuttle, I'll bet he's got a solid marble interior. Vortex is just not right. I can understand trying to liven up the colors, but man - they kept everything else in the same family and then ... Vortex. I'm taking solace in the fact that the real toys are nearly always more muted than the pictures and these two won't be quite so bright.

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Yes, that's his bloody point. Combiners are like siege machines. They can take the fire and provide cover for the foot soldiers while also devastating enemy fortifications. It's natural that they should have long-range capabilities, otherwise they'd be totally helpless against attacks from the air or from afar. Anyone who played strategy games could confirm that. Or well, just check ancient siege towers, they usually had ballistae in/on them and soldiers with bows/crossbows inside.


Sure, but it's not efficient at all. Just build an actual siege tower, or just use all the various big bombs the Transformers normally have.

The real reason the Combiners are there is to bash other Combiners over the head with radio towers and play godzilla with Optimus Prime.


Yeah, because a giant tower that can only be moved by a few dozen of your precious ground forces is far superior to something that can move and act on its own. icon-primal.gif I'm not arguing the primary purpose for gestalts in the fiction is to look cool but there are some battlefield advantages as well.
 
 
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:18 AM

The compromises of the combiner are to be expected with a team of all deluxes. That works for Liokaiser, Devastator, or Monstructor. Their torsos are two figures. For a scramble city team, you need a disparity in size between the leaders and others.

That said, I still like the look of the combiner and plan on buying two. One for Bruticus and one for customizing. I love Cheets' Computron idea.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:23 AM

Blast-Off's sculpting is insane! I don't think I've ever seen a shuttle mode with that much intricate detailing.

Vortex has a very mosquito-like appearance. I miss the grey though.

So the biggest question: how stable will Bruticus be? I hope he's got strong connections and some really good feet.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:28 AM

I am not feeling Blast-off at all. That is one weird toy.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

I can see where the color changes on Vortex aren't unprecedented, but I really don't like them, and don't understand why they made those changes in the game. Plus the toy color scheme takes the game scheme and makes it even more different from his usual colors. It's like, are we sure this isn't FoC G1 Over-Run? icon-waspy.gif

Blast-Off is neat. Hopefully the combiner can be made to look a bit better, but for being only about $60 to complete it I think I like it well enough.

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