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@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.


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#461 M Sipher

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 02:49 AM

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And then someone will get it early from China, and the reviews will be glowing, and the fans will be back on board again and

The only problem with this ride is I know where all the hills and dips are. It's not exciting anymore.

And it wasn't particularly enjoyable the first few goes 'round.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:06 AM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Feb 7 2012, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Err, charitably you would hope that Onslaught is badly mistransformed in vehicle mode.

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Pretty much. You can see the back of a plate that probably forms the back of the vehicle mode, wedged in behind Bruticus's head. The cannons are probably attached to it (as Onslaught/Bruticus's backpack) and I would suppose they flip all the way to the back of the vehicle, mounted on a strut that fills in the remaining gap between the legs/rear wheels. Then the obvious slot between the two barrels plugs onto the top of Bruticus's helmet to secure everything in place.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:14 AM

Hmmm... I was just comparing this shot we have of Bruticus to the final promo artwork that was recently posted.

And one thing I noticed? The toy version of Swindle transforms into a leg completely backwards from how he does in the game.




See? The game has Swindle's front folded up as a foot (note the headlights). I don't think the difference really detracts from the overall look, it's just interesting.

...although I still think the toy's shoulder joints sit up a bit too high on the arms. ( ◕ ~ ◕ )

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:23 AM

Blast-Off's arm mode doesn't match the concept art, either. I suppose it could be somewhat mistransformed, though.

[EDIT] Actually, looking at it, Brawl is clearly mistransformed, you can see all the parts and joints needed to make the leg from the art. Makes me wonder if Swindle is even attached in this pic, or if the photographer just half-assed it because he couldn't figure it out. He's basically not transformed at all from vehicle mode.

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#465 Kira Kira

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:28 AM

Well, yeah... but that seemed obvious! No one mentioned the Swindle thing as far as I know.

Also once again Tformers has bigger pictures. That's where I got that big shot of Bruticus (reuploaded to my photobucket since it's pretty big...)

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:39 AM

Personally, I wonder how well it matches up with the final in-game models rather than concept art.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:51 AM

Quick observation - looking at the Bruticus and Vortex pics, you can see the connector on Vortex.

However, said connector only looks like half of the connection piece plugged into Bruticus.

So what gives here? Does the connector fold in half somewhere?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:00 AM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Feb 8 2012, 03:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally, I wonder how well it matches up with the final in-game models rather than concept art.


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I'm interested in that too!
And for some reason I though I read that the concept art was a "final" promo art, but looking around I see no mention of that. Bah. (stupid brain...)
But I do imagine the in game model will be pretty similar. Some details will probably differ (like will Vortex's head be red like the toy or black/blue like the art?) but I imagine things like transformation schemes are worked out before the art reaches that stage of concept.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:15 AM

QUOTE(Dante @ Feb 8 2012, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blast-Off's arm mode doesn't match the concept art, either. I suppose it could be somewhat mistransformed, though.

[EDIT] Actually, looking at it, Brawl is clearly mistransformed, you can see all the parts and joints needed to make the leg from the art. Makes me wonder if Swindle is even attached in this pic, or if the photographer just half-assed it because he couldn't figure it out. He's basically not transformed at all from vehicle mode.

Pretty sure Swindle is attached - cant we see his combiner port in the vehicle mode pics?

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:16 AM

I don't know, it looks bad but it's not killing my excitement for a Cybertronic Combiner team.

And I think Vortex and Blast Off look great on their own.

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I uh. I uh...



Yeah. Nope.

PCC Bombshock did it better, which is sad. icon-screamer.gif

And looking at my Grimstone, I'm hoping it's a typical miss transformed photo.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:33 AM

I think the individual molds look very nice. The combined mode looks a bit iffy above the waist though, but we'll have to see.

However, I absolutely hate that 4 of the 5 are great and coherent updates while Vortex gets completely random-ass colors. I don't feel Blast Off is that far off - brown to gold I can handle. But I don't care if its from the game, from Hasbro, whoever...the random Vortex garbage kills this set. Hoping TakaraTomy will give us a Vortex as nice as the Dark of the Moon version! Pretty please!!!

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 04:52 AM

Swindle also has his combined mode "toes" out, so I doubt you can flip him to match the artwork.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:02 AM

It does suffer a bit from having a body the same size as the limbs. Then again, it looks better than I thought it would at that scale, so not too shabby.

If anything, I'm weirded out by Vortex's colors. Might repurpose him as someone else if and when they make a G1-colored one [then again they might do that to them all as a full set, although the others are close enough for me].



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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:09 AM

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Swindle also has his combined mode "toes" out, so I doubt you can flip him to match the artwork.


I'm pretty sure those "toes" are actually Swindle's feet.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 05:29 AM

Even if it doesn't differ much I'm still definately getting this. Combiner love!

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:03 AM

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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.

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Meta...morphin' ...dudicus?


I'd guess Swindle and Brawl are TFed right. Onslaught is close with maybe a few little errors, perhaps at the crotch or sides of the chest maybe. And I suspect Blast Off and Vortex are at least partially messed up, or at the very least quite badly posed. Going by the concept art the thruster parts of BO should fold down to the lower arm, or perhaps the lower arm folds up to them looking at it closer.

-ZacWilliam, on the up-side he looks Awesome! I LOVE HIM. Even miss transformed or badly posed he's a wonder that will have a spot of honor among my CHUGUR Cons. Real fists. Yay! icon-hotrod.gif


I agree - I am sure that Onslaught's arms can be hidden away on the back. (Or if not, at least he'll have tiny vestigial t-rex arms like IDW's Monstructor! icon-hotrod.gif ) Vortex and especially Blast-Off are also mistransformed, badly.

The only thing bothering me about this are Vortex's colors (seriously, everyone else is totally on-model color with the WFC/FoC designs, but he is gold/red instead of grey/blue/purple), his rotors not being on the back (hopefully that can be solved) and the quite small hands on Bruticus.

The individual bot and alt modes on the fliers are pure awesomeness. Blast Off is something that came from a steampunk movie! And Vortex looks wicked. Even his rotors are sword-like. Bruticus is also great, Onslaught really works well despite being a Deluxe. I wonder if those pegs are PCC-compatible.

Note the open-palmed Bruticus hand in Vortex's foot - I hope that means it has moveable fingers to be able to grab the weapon.

I frankly don't care for the combining weapons - I will put Onslaught's gun on his back, and probably give him Fansproject Bruticus's long rifle.

I suspect some of the colors are only this vivid due to photoshopping, we will know more on Toyfair most likely. (Unless it'll be PRIMEPRIMEPRIME only).

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:17 AM

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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.


And also be a huge slow target for combined arms fire.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:22 AM

I'll buy this either way to support combiners but unless this looks massively better once it's released Colossus won't be moving from my display.

Because right now it looks like a PCC but with Deluxes.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:29 AM

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Vortex and Blast-Off look like they're in the completely wrong colors. icon-depth.gif


Not for their Aligned-continuity selves! icon-hotrod.gif


NOPE, at least not true for Vortex. (See attached pics from TFormers below).

I can accept that the brown-ish grey became gold and the pink/purple became red after photoshopping, but the game model has tons of blue (like the original toy) on him, as well as grey rotors.

Unless of course you can show me a pic of Vortex from the game with no blue on him and red rotors...

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picking up and using hand-held weapons (as none of the Energon combiners had integrated weapons...), changing ammo,

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Show me a five-robot combiner holding a gun, and I'll show you four robots whose time would be better spent elsewhere.


Think of this like that - could 5 soldiers carry and operate a siege cannon on their shoulders? A giant can do that AND smash anything in his way at the same time.


And also be a huge slow target for combined arms fire.


Yes, that's his bloody point. Combiners are like siege machines. They can take the fire and provide cover for the foot soldiers while also devastating enemy fortifications. It's natural that they should have long-range capabilities, otherwise they'd be totally helpless against attacks from the air or from afar. Anyone who played strategy games could confirm that. Or well, just check ancient siege towers, they usually had ballistae in/on them and soldiers with bows/crossbows inside.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE(Dante @ Feb 8 2012, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blast-Off's arm mode doesn't match the concept art, either. I suppose it could be somewhat mistransformed, though.

[EDIT] Actually, looking at it, Brawl is clearly mistransformed, you can see all the parts and joints needed to make the leg from the art. Makes me wonder if Swindle is even attached in this pic, or if the photographer just half-assed it because he couldn't figure it out. He's basically not transformed at all from vehicle mode.


I and probably a lot more people often wonder just how much would it cost for Hasbro to have a toy designer, or heck, just a guy who has the printed instruction, accompany the photographer who makes the first stock photos. I mean, mistransformations that make it to the box or even promo catalogues have been around since G1.

Most likely, as only us rabid fans follow these promo photos with interest, they just don't care.
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