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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just


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#1 Detour

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:20 PM

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Massively mistransformed by the look of things, but otherwise....


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Edited by Detour, 03 February 2012 - 12:21 PM.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:23 PM

WHY didn't they color him like SG Drift? I wanted to use him as SG Drift. What a wasted opportunity.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

I'm digging this daily reveal bit. Knock Out is looking neat, and I dig the LSOTW torture device. icon-fire.gif


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:26 PM

God, I hope he's REALLY mistransformed because otherwise this is a bit of a let-down.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:27 PM

I hope he's mis-transformed. Jeez, he looks kind of bad.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:29 PM

He is mistransformed. His stomach, at least. According to the images of him from BotCon, the sides of his abs fold back.

Also, that prod of his totally looks like the Scorpion-guy that Takara's Soundwave comes with.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:32 PM

Looks like his fenders need to tilt back further on his shouders, his "belt" needs to fold around his waist, and his windows need to fold down on his arms. Looks pretty good now, and I think he'll look great when properly transformed.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:33 PM

Boy - with a very little bit of paint that head could be turned into a pretty decent Terrorsaur.

And aren't his wheels supposed to be up higher by his shoulders too?

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:34 PM

Also, his chest needs to not be photoshopped to look like someone smeared crap on it.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:35 PM

For comparison, I went and dug up some pics of the prototype shown in the BotCon slideshow:
http://2.bp.blogspot...xe_knockout.PNG

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:39 PM

Love that he comes with that cattle prod spear thing. I definitely didn't think he would, especially since I believe he only used it once on the show.

Boy are they're going to be any surprises as Toyfair this year? I mean we've seen a mockup of him before but they're revealing all the goods before I get there. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 3 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boy are they're going to be any surprises as Toyfair this year?

The surprises will be seeing the toys unphotoshopped and under normal lighting, and hopefully not mistransformed. icon-waspy.gif

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 3 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For comparison, I went and dug up some pics of the prototype shown in the BotCon slideshow:
http://2.bp.blogspot...xe_knockout.PNG



Thanks, I was looking for that picture. For future reference do you know if the Skyquake picture is still around? I really hope his and Breakdowns toys get shown.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 3 2012, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 3 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Boy are they're going to be any surprises as Toyfair this year?

The surprises will be seeing the toys unphotoshopped and under normal lighting, and hopefully not mistransformed. icon-waspy.gif

Yeah, but they may end up being hand painted samples that are not indicative of the final product (like silver eared Universe Sunstreaker or black faced Alternator Silverstreak). icon-fire.gif

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE(Detour @ Feb 3 2012, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For comparison, I went and dug up some pics of the prototype shown in the BotCon slideshow:
http://2.bp.blogspot...xe_knockout.PNG


So he's actually not that much mistransformed. Just fold back the stomach pieces and straighten his chest kibble.

Ouch. I was at least hoping that the windows folded over the forearms to help with that area of nothingness on the inside of the arms. And that the hood torso did...something to make that look less goofy.

Edited by NightViper, 03 February 2012 - 01:04 PM.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:02 PM

He looks good so far, just needs to be transformed correctly is all.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:19 PM

This is enough to show the final product will be damn sexi. Bought.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 01:33 PM

I'm a little disappointed he doesn't have the large yellow semi-circular areas to either side of his head, those are my favorite parts of his robot mode.

Looks decent otherwise, face looks fantastic!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:04 PM

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He is mistransformed. His stomach, at least. According to the images of him from BotCon, the sides of his abs fold back.

Also, that prod of his totally looks like the Scorpion-guy that Takara's Soundwave comes with.


Takara Soundwave has a circular, multi-pronged weapon-mode Minicon.

This here has a u-shaped prod at the end of it. the Micron Booster snake looks more like Knockout's weapon than the scorpion does, which is based off of Soundwave's tentacle.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:04 PM

Don't go by that mock up picture anyway. Remember how different Armada Hot Shot ended up looking?

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