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@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.


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#1 Meister79

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 06:59 AM

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#2 NotVeryKnightly

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:14 AM

So, this is non-official, unlike that Wonder Festival Dai Atlas?

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:39 AM

That transformation is petty ingenious.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:11 AM

He is adorable.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:33 AM

That is pretty cool. Looks like it will be tiny.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:08 AM

Is this a garage kit? It looks like one.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:31 AM

It looks rther chewable but otherwise that's pretty damn great!
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:39 PM

QUOTE(Spark @ Feb 3 2012, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this a garage kit? It looks like one.


Yeah. It's going to be released at WonderFest.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:22 PM

So that means it will be very expensive to obtain on the after market. That is very clever.
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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(Magick @ Feb 3 2012, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means it will be very expensive to obtain on the after market. That is very clever.


If you can find it on the aftermarket at all.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(Magick @ Feb 3 2012, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means it will be very expensive to obtain on the after market. That is very clever.


If you can find it on the aftermarket at all.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:34 PM

If this toy is licensed for Wonderfest release, then it's an official product, not part of this forum, right?

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 3 2012, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this toy is licensed for Wonderfest release, then it's an official product, not part of this forum, right?


It's still a third-party product, designed and produced by a third-party. It just may (or may not, we don't know for sure) have an official liscence from Takara which doesn't make it's very existance illegal. Just as with Jizai's Wonderfest stuff.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:39 PM

I've wanted someone to make a good first episode Bumblebee for years and I still want someone to.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 3 2012, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this toy is licensed for Wonderfest release, then it's an official product, not part of this forum, right?


Actually, if we were to use "3rd Party" correctly, then the only thing that should be here at all is this. Or the JizaiToys stuff. Or stuff like the G1 Minibot keychains or Movie Allspark paperweights and what have you.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 02:45 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Feb 3 2012, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Magick @ Feb 3 2012, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So that means it will be very expensive to obtain on the after market. That is very clever.


If you can find it on the aftermarket at all.

And that still doesn't factor in that he'll also be extremely fragile as nearly all garage kits are wont to be!
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:38 AM

Looks like he's wearing clogs.

Looks pretty neat though.
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Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:15 AM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Feb 3 2012, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 3 2012, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If this toy is licensed for Wonderfest release, then it's an official product, not part of this forum, right?


Actually, if we were to use "3rd Party" correctly, then the only thing that should be here at all is this. Or the JizaiToys stuff. Or stuff like the G1 Minibot keychains or Movie Allspark paperweights and what have you.


I think the difference there would be LICENSED third party and UNLICENSED third party. These guys have a license to make a Bumblebee, but Fansproject doesn't have a license to make Springer.

Would be funny though if Fansproject made a licensed Wonderfest edition toy one day though, maybe just Springer with Autobut symbols and a more Springer-like head.

Edited by mignash, 05 February 2012 - 09:16 AM.


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Feb 5 2012, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the difference there would be LICENSED third party and UNLICENSED third party.

I know I said not to argue about semantics in the other thread, and I have a suspicion that I know where this is going to go, but... this licensed/unlicensed third-party thing is a made-up distinction that does not actually exist. We (as a collective fandom) tend to use the term incorrectly out of laziness and convention, not out of an attempt to excuse them as something they're not.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 02:18 PM

Buuut, is it licensed or not? I'd really like to know.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.




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