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@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:49 PM

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I honestly wasn't too excited about this figure after seeing the in hand pictures, but my mind completely changed when I had him in hands. He is really really nice looking. The orange is very rich and vibrant, the flame decos on his chest can sides are really well done (the little red dots you see on his flames are not paint chips but the little rivets in his car mode).

The spoiler is actually cat in yellow plastic and not painted over yellow. The dark maroon is a really nice sparkle color. The black shins are not caked on like the Battle in Space / Challenge at Cybertron figures are (they left the part of the hinge unpainted). The white looks a lot better in person (though it makes sticking his gun in his hands a little tough at first). Between the elaborate flame detail, his wrist paint, the shins, and all the little maroon details (they even painted his earphones) - they went all out on this figure.

The remolding seems a bit unnecessary (particularly the under the arm hole as most 5mm pegs won't be long enough to fit in and clear the upper part of his arm. The engine tab is pretty neat though and works well with the Target Master Microns.

Figure is super tight too, unlike some Side Burns. Car mode fits together perfectly (unlike some of the earlier releases). I think this figure replaced the Henkei one as my favorite version of the figure.

If you're not sick of this mold I highly recommend him as the paint job and details are really superb on this one.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:21 PM

He'll be the Rodimus Prime to my Challenge at Cybertron Hot Rod.

How are those Targetmasters on that peg? Is there just a bit of grip before you hit the inner powerlinx peg?

Edited by Spectre, 02 February 2012 - 10:25 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:29 PM

QUOTE(Spectre @ Feb 2 2012, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How are those Targetmasters on that peg? Is there just a bit of grip before you hit the inner powerlinx peg?

Yup, that's how they're staying on. The under arm hole is pretty useless though.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 10:37 PM

Crap. That's beautiful, I think I need it.

Nice pictures!

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:44 AM

So is that sticker on the packages of this latest United wave indicating they're limited edition turning out to be true? I see places like HLJ are out and even set the toys to discontinued status, but BBTS seems to have a healthy supply in stock. With TF Prime ramping up in Japan, it would make sense they'd scale back the numbers on this specialty line to focus on the new mainline series, but I think Takara usually has no problems with pumping out a good volume of figures in all of their toylines.



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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:56 AM

Nice!

Although it's still not magenta... (although if it was I suppose with that deco it'd be Rodimus from the few minutes he was scene at the end of TFTM!) So yeah, I'm passing this one up.

But still cool to see photos of it and all the neat remolds.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:25 AM

Well, the fact that it's a Hot Rod mold meant that I'd buy it, and the spectre of being all "limited edition" drove me to get it a LOT sooner than I otherwise would have. It does look pretty sweet, especially with the crisply bordered chest flames and those ridiculous side flames I love.

At this point I've got so many versions of this mold running around... and while I'm all about the Rodimus, even I'd be fine with them giving this mold a break [preferably to make a new one]. But a magenta one first, please.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE(Strafe @ Feb 2 2012, 10:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Crap. That's beautiful, I think I need it.

Nice pictures!

Thanks! He's my favorite one yet!

QUOTE(AireCoos @ Feb 3 2012, 12:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So is that sticker on the packages of this latest United wave indicating they're limited edition turning out to be true? I see places like HLJ are out and even set the toys to discontinued status, but BBTS seems to have a healthy supply in stock. With TF Prime ramping up in Japan, it would make sense they'd scale back the numbers on this specialty line to focus on the new mainline series, but I think Takara usually has no problems with pumping out a good volume of figures in all of their toylines.

I'm thinking they were limited in Japan but outside of Asia that might not have been the case (where most of the US retailers suppliers seem to be located). So while places like HLJ, AmiAmi, Hobby Search and the like had a hard time filling orders due to inventory being cut places outside of those areas (the BBTS's and the TFSource's) did not.

QUOTE(Kira Kira @ Feb 3 2012, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nice!

Although it's still not magenta... (although if it was I suppose with that deco it'd be Rodimus from the few minutes he was scene at the end of TFTM!) So yeah, I'm passing this one up.

But still cool to see photos of it and all the neat remolds.

I'd still like a magenta one at some point, but this one does a great job of combining Rodimus Prime's robot mode appearance with some toy specific flames. He's really great.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:31 AM

I don't know why, but every time I look at that new peg it just looks tacked on. In an average/poor custom type of way. It just doesn't mesh with the rest of him for me.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:26 AM

I don't even notice it when looking at him. It's very subtle in person.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:47 AM

It's the kind of thing that is only really noticeable if you're looking for it; that sounds weird but I guess I mean it doesn't stick out like a sore thumb really. I was half expecting it to be a Powerlinx hardpoint, and actually forgot they'd added it until I looked right at it.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:07 AM

NightViper is just can't stop staring at Rodimus's knob ever since he became a Prime.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 01:03 PM

Does anyone else think its odd to have a Rodimus Prime repaint of a Hot Rod toy? How would this work in fiction? He doesn't get bigger or gain a new alternate mode when he becomes Rodimus Prime, just a slightly different color scheme?

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 11:53 PM

Kind of like in the cartoon except he doesn't get taller in robot mode. icon-fire.gif



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