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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#41 Mouse_Pad

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 2 2012, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Feb 2 2012, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd be tempted to put Shockwave with my Classics...but he's Prime Shockwave, not G1 Shockwave.

If these come out from TakaraTomy they're likely to be the G1 characters again.

IDW is having the G1 guys (Bumblebee, Skywarp, Starscream, Soundwave, Shockwave, Jazz, Sideswipe, Prowl, Bluestreak) use their WFC/FOC bodies too. So yeah there is fiction on both ends that say these guys are G1 guys as well as fiction that says they're Prime guys. WFC still fits better with G1 in my book.

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If IDW or Takara says he's G1, that's enough canon to make me put him with Classics.

I wish there were some canon to make Bludgeon work.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:51 PM

IDW is currently drawing their Shockwave as the WFC design, as the link on the previous page hints at, but is more apparent in some other panels that aren't online.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:03 PM

It is only logical to buy that Shockwave.


The other listings are cool too. Makes mew wonder if Dreadwing uses the Skyquake voyager tooling?


Also New Cyberverse listings! that were removed according to TFW2005.

Cyberverse Commander -

Ultra Magnus, Dreadwing (we already know about the Japanese one coming), Skyquake

Cyberverse Legion -

Tailgate (natural Prime Cliffjumper repaint), Fallback, Flamewar (arcee repaint?)

Edited by Dr Syn, 02 February 2012 - 01:10 PM.

Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE(Chip @ Feb 2 2012, 11:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In (I think) the Diamond version of the BotCon Animated comic, Kaye hinted that he might reprise his role as Dead End in Prime. I guess that's happening.


Oh? That's interesting. Would be nice to see Kaye as Dead End on the show. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:11 PM

If Shockwave is a "large Deluxe" by the standards of our current Deluxes, he's still going to be a short Deluxe compared to most of the Classics toys people want to display him with.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:16 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ Feb 2 2012, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Shockwave is a "large Deluxe" by the standards of our current Deluxes, he's still going to be a short Deluxe compared to most of the Classics toys people want to display him with.


Shuttup.

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Edited by ZacWilliam1, 02 February 2012 - 01:17 PM.

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#47 Walky

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:17 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 2 2012, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LV! @ Feb 2 2012, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Shockwave is a "large Deluxe" by the standards of our current Deluxes, he's still going to be a short Deluxe compared to most of the Classics toys people want to display him with.


Shuttup.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

I know it's not listed on here, but...a remold of FE deluxe Cliffjumper, with a new head, in G1 Tailgate colors?

Yum.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:27 PM

Here's hoping that Magnus is not a Prime repaint.
I'm in the minority in that I normally like those, but if this guy is a repaint that might mean they don't plan on using him in the show anytime soon.

Also, glad they're doing the two WFC designs I wanted most.

Edited by Silent_Magnus, 02 February 2012 - 01:28 PM.



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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Feb 2 2012, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 2 2012, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LV! @ Feb 2 2012, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Shockwave is a "large Deluxe" by the standards of our current Deluxes, he's still going to be a short Deluxe compared to most of the Classics toys people want to display him with.


Shuttup.

If I want depressing reality I'll stop hanging around a website about alien super robot toys. ;-)


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Dreaming is stupid. It only results in whining later.


You should totally sell motivational posters.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Feb 2 2012, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it's not listed on here, but...a remold of FE deluxe Cliffjumper, with a new head, in G1 Tailgate colors?

Yum.


Yes please!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:33 PM

I hope there is a Starscream, and the line lasts long enough to get a Skywarp and Thundercracker in there.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ Feb 2 2012, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Shockwave is a "large Deluxe" by the standards of our current Deluxes, he's still going to be a short Deluxe compared to most of the Classics toys people want to display him with.


If he were FE Starscream's height, that'd be fine. But I really doubt it. The largest of the RID deluxes (minus Bumblebee who I don't have) is Wheeljack, and he's no taller than Classics Starscream, who's not a terribly large Classics deluxe to begin with.

I suspect the size of the RID deluxes has to do with the size of their weapons. Cliffjumper's the shortest and he's got a big-ass axe. Wheeljack's the tallest and he's only got a pair of swords. Soundwave's in the middle and he's got Laserbeak, who's smaller than the axe and more massive than the swords.

Thing is, WFC Shockwave has that massive cannon arm. I bet a lot of mass is going there.

So.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:39 PM

So with all the size classes shrinking a bit, maybe "Deluxe" Rumble really is scout RTS Rumble... a boy can dream right (still cheaper than Takara's)?
 
 
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:48 PM

I'm just going to cross my fingers that FOC Shockwave is at least around WFC Megatron's size, who feels like a pretty big deluxe but has a large, gimmicky arm cannon as well.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:16 PM

I'm aware. Hopefully we're not in a trend of deluxes all continuing to get smaller, I'd rather pay a couple bucks more MSRP than start sacrificing size as well as detail.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:17 PM

FoCwave! Scratch one off the top of my wish list.

The imminent Ratchet release for Prime may not bode well for receiving a FoC Ratchet. And the absence of co-op doesn't bode well for him being truly needed in the game, either. Blurg.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:50 PM

People, wouldn't it stand to reason if they were releasing RtS Rumble that he'd be in the Generations assortment and not the Prime assortment. Sheesh! This wishful thinking is beyond absurd! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 02:58 PM

Continuity families, schmontinuity...uh, families.

Shockwave will fit in perfectly with WFC Megatron + Soundwave and the Titanium Seekers as the pre-Earth versions of my personal "partially G1-inspired but mostly made up" canon.

And if we get an FOC Seeker mold so I can ditch the Titaniums, so much the better.

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