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@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 06:29 PM)

So apparently the 2016 remake of "Instruments of Destruction" is out. I'm still waiting for an Amazon download to become available, but the clips I heard thus far sound cool. They're using the uncensored lyrics!

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 03:02 PM)

:(

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 September 2016 - 08:25 AM)

Sorry bebbeh, I'm taken.

@  Bass X0 : (25 September 2016 - 08:18 AM)

Alpha-Q!

@  zephyrX9 : (25 September 2016 - 01:06 AM)

You know, while the Personality Ticks were part of my second least favorite mtmte arc, I'd love to see them show up in ROM

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 September 2016 - 06:54 PM)

But can you breathe in space?

@  Nevermore : (24 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

I'M BATMAN!

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 September 2016 - 03:59 PM)

I AM OPTIMUS PRIME

@  Rycochet : (24 September 2016 - 03:47 PM)

That Sam-I-am! That Sam-I-am! I do not like that Sam-I-am!

@  Steevy Maximus : (24 September 2016 - 03:37 PM)

I am...MEGATRON! RAAAAAAAR!!

@  ShadowMan024 : (24 September 2016 - 01:02 PM)

I. AM. IRON MAN.

@  Telly : (24 September 2016 - 12:56 PM)

i am the i am i am the i am

@  ▲ndrusi : (24 September 2016 - 10:51 AM)

I am Sam. Sam-I-Am.


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#101 NightViper

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 1 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(SwiftEagle @ Feb 1 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rumors outta Japan:

The price cut is because:
a) The toys will now be coming in much simpler packaging
b) The Mini-Con pack-ins will be in snap-kit form
c) Many paint operations have been replaced by user-applied stickers

The sticker thing would be strange and bad. Unless it gives them more detail than the Hasbro ones have not comparable details or less details.

Randy


I believe the sticker rumor would go with the snap-kit rumor. Since kits aren't usually painted.

I could live with unpainted/stickered Mini-Cons as long as they're as cool as these ones.

Edited by NightViper, 01 February 2012 - 11:07 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:07 PM

What if the paint apps are the same as the US versions instead like previous Takara releases? Maybe that's what they mean.

Less packaging, yes I could see that. These guys are small in alt mode, Soundwave is a wee thing as a jet. The card backing is getting to superfluous, the plastic surrounding them is fairly sturdy.

Urgh, I have so many of card backings already since I don't like throwing away the stats.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:41 PM


I'd have very low hopes for the successful application and retention of stickers onto Prime toys, unless we're talking strictly about deco on the flattest panel parts of the vehicle modes. Anything having to stretch over those contoured limbs and chests, though.... gah.

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 11:51 PM

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I understand Minicons would have likely been too expensive at the price point for Hasbro, but Takara's Prime RID Deluxes are only 2,000 Yen, which is 940 Yen cheaper than the United figures that TT just came out with.

And that makes me suspicious. Something almost HAS to be sacrificed here to pull that off... and the only thing there can be at the deluxe scale is paint.


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#105 radicaldeth

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:03 AM


Now I have visions of the Kre-O stickers that wouldn't stick even on a flat surface.


And Purple Monkey Dishwasher time!

Rumor from a rumor on TFW that the Takara figs will have their weapons replaced with the Microns instead. The pics don't show their normal weapons now that I look at them again. Not worried about Skywarp, but Megatron is nekkid without his normal cannon.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:06 AM

QUOTE(radicaldeth @ Feb 2 2012, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I have visions of the Kre-O stickers that wouldn't stick even on a flat surface.


And Purple Monkey Dishwasher time!

Rumor from a rumor on TFW that the Takara figs will have their weapons replaced with the Microns instead. The pics don't show their normal weapons now that I look at them again. Not worried about Skywarp, but Megatron is nekkid without his normal cannon.


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And Megatron is the main frakin' reason I made this order in the first place. icon-wildride.gif


Well, the Minicon's alt mode IS his cannon. Only this time with his sword. And the whole thing turns into a monkey.

#107 radicaldeth

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:10 AM

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Well, the Minicon's alt mode IS his cannon. Only this time with his sword. And the whole thing turns into a monkey.



So in ship mode he'll have a monkey on his back. I hope it's purple. icon-fire.gif

#108 Cabooceratops

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:16 AM

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Wow, March release for the first figures? I can have money for that by then, I think.

It'll be mighty expensive, though, damn!

(Really do need to get that second job...)

6 5 deluxes, 1 voyager

It's going to be well over a hundred dollars, which is expensive for me.

But I might end up skipping a few(Or more.) things now that I'm taking a closer look at the toys. We'll see.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:34 AM

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Rumors outta Japan:

The price cut is because:
a) The toys will now be coming in much simpler packaging
b) The Mini-Con pack-ins will be in snap-kit form
c) Many paint operations have been replaced by user-applied stickers


If that's the case than I'll be canceling my preorder.

*waits for more information*

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:35 AM

There's a screw on Starscream's minicon's wing.

I don't buy it.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 01:42 AM

Optimus' weapon will most likely actually be able to stay in weapon mode. Which is good reason to get this over Hasbro's release.

I forgot that spaghetti was a pasta really.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:52 AM

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There's a screw on Starscream's minicon's wing.

You mean on the obviously non-final gray test-shot?

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 1 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The sticker thing would be strange and bad. Unless it gives them more detail than the Hasbro ones have not comparable details or less details.

I'm really not sure what "more detail" they could give. We're kind of beyond the days of G1's weirdass random technicolor greeblie stickers.

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a) How much simpler? Bagged? They've already downgraded all deluxe toys packaging from boxed in the BW/AEC era to carded in recent lines, with character card becoming a lost art. I can't imagine how much more simpler they can get.

Actually, as I understand it, boxes are less expensive than heat-sealed bubbles (and probably more eco-friendly to boot). I can easily see the box proper becoming generic with windows and stickers showing/naming the product.


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The only thing I could want from the entire Prime line from now to forever would be Soundwave's Minicons since the spear mode looks like one of those torture devices Stalker used in Last Stand of the Wreckers.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 1 2012, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(SwiftEagle @ Feb 1 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rumors outta Japan:

The price cut is because:
a) The toys will now be coming in much simpler packaging
b) The Mini-Con pack-ins will be in snap-kit form
c) Many paint operations have been replaced by user-applied stickers

The sticker thing would be strange and bad. Unless it gives them more detail than the Hasbro ones have not comparable details or less details.

Randy


I believe the sticker rumor would go with the snap-kit rumor. Since kits aren't usually painted.

I could live with unpainted/stickered Mini-Cons as long as they're as cool as these ones.

Could be like the stripes and Autobot symbol on the FE Optimus they showed with all the Minicons attached.

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I understand Minicons would have likely been too expensive at the price point for Hasbro, but Takara's Prime RID Deluxes are only 2,000 Yen, which is 940 Yen cheaper than the United figures that TT just came out with.

And that makes me suspicious. Something almost HAS to be sacrificed here to pull that off... and the only thing there can be at the deluxe scale is paint.


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Hmm...

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:37 AM

Wow, you guys put way more stock in rumors than I do.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:03 AM

GaoKaiser on TFW2005 has posted a copy of the actual text of these rumours, which suggest the paint apps will be identical to the US versions with additional stickers instead of extra Takara paint apps, rather than stickers in lieu of existing paint. That's probably still a bit of a shame if anyone was hoping for a silver Voyager Megatron though.

I suspect the minicons will all end up in the capsule toy line. Which is good. Though I wonder if any versions of them will actually get the nice shiny paint that the original toy show reveal versions had. Seems unlikely :-(

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 1 2012, 11:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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QUOTE(SwiftEagle @ Feb 1 2012, 09:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rumors outta Japan:

The price cut is because:
a) The toys will now be coming in much simpler packaging
b) The Mini-Con pack-ins will be in snap-kit form
c) Many paint operations have been replaced by user-applied stickers

The sticker thing would be strange and bad. Unless it gives them more detail than the Hasbro ones have not comparable details or less details.

Randy


I believe the sticker rumor would go with the snap-kit rumor. Since kits aren't usually painted.

I could live with unpainted/stickered Mini-Cons as long as they're as cool as these ones.

Could be like the stripes and Autobot symbol on the FE Optimus they showed with all the Minicons attached.


QUOTE(The Phazer @ Feb 2 2012, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GaoKaiser on TFW2005 has posted a copy of the actual text of these rumours, which suggest the paint apps will be identical to the US versions with additional stickers instead of extra Takara paint apps, rather than stickers in lieu of existing paint. That's probably still a bit of a shame if anyone was hoping for a silver Voyager Megatron though.

I suspect the minicons will all end up in the capsule toy line. Which is good. Though I wonder if any versions of them will actually get the nice shiny paint that the original toy show reveal versions had. Seems unlikely :-(

Phazer


So it would seem Randy is correct, if the rumors are true.

US paint ops with additional stickers? That's something I can live with as well.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:09 AM

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!!! holy jive. How the hell am I gonna be able to afford importing these? If they all come with Targetmaster versions of their ACTUAL WEAPONS there is no WAY I'm going to pass, especially after the way Hasbro's been handling their distribution lately (even if they do make these available domestically, what are the odds I'd actually be able to BUY them?).
I thought it had been established and was known for years that Hasbro doesn't actually handle distribution to individual retail outlets? And in any case it's up to the retailer to get order them in.


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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:26 AM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Feb 2 2012, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GaoKaiser on TFW2005 has posted a copy of the actual text of these rumours, which suggest the paint apps will be identical to the US versions with additional stickers instead of extra Takara paint apps, rather than stickers in lieu of existing paint. That's probably still a bit of a shame if anyone was hoping for a silver Voyager Megatron though.

I suspect the minicons will all end up in the capsule toy line. Which is good. Though I wonder if any versions of them will actually get the nice shiny paint that the original toy show reveal versions had. Seems unlikely :-(

Phazer


Which is why I want to wait before I order them. I would like to see exactly what I'm buying. I do wany these, and I've put in a pre-order, but I'm not going to buy these or any RiD toys(except wheeljack, as he's not being released?). I want to see some final shots first.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 08:03 AM

New image.

The weapon modes combine together.

I really, really hope they're released in the capsules now.

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