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@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.


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Kabaya Deathsaurus, WFC Optimus Prime, Hot Spot and Protectobots


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#61 Dr Syn

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE(Meister79 @ Apr 14 2012, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems these have been released.

In-hand images of the Protectobots!

http://www.hk-tf.com.....;extra=page=1

God Guardian is awesome!


Wait where do the combiner limbs come from?
Legends class figure when? REAL SOON!!

#62 Meister79

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE(Dr Syn @ Apr 15 2012, 05:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Meister79 @ Apr 14 2012, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems these have been released.

In-hand images of the Protectobots!

http://www.hk-tf.com.....;extra=page=1

God Guardian is awesome!


Wait where do the combiner limbs come from?


They are in their own wave.
Hotspot is part of Kabaya Wave 5 (along with Deathsaurus and WFC Optimus)
The other Protectobots are in the Gaia Guardian wave.
Seems both waves were released simultaneously.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:09 PM

The plane as a shield in super-combined mode is a little forced, but other than that it's a nice combined mode. A shame we only get these cool takes on combiners in Kabaya figures. Obviously the resources to try these kinds of ideas aren't there for real toys, but you can't help but think how cool a Protectobots re-issue with two extra components would be.

#64 Meister79

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:15 PM

QUOTE(Professor @ Apr 15 2012, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The plane as a shield in super-combined mode is a little forced, but other than that it's a nice combined mode. A shame we only get these cool takes on combiners in Kabaya figures. Obviously the resources to try these kinds of ideas aren't there for real toys, but you can't help but think how cool a Protectobots re-issue with two extra components would be.


Agree with you completely, Prof!
An Encore release of these would be awesome!

#65 MrBlud

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:21 PM

...ok I might have to get that.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

Also, WFC Optimus Prime and Deathsaurus.

http://www.hk-tf.com.....;extra=page=1
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:18 PM

1) Woo, Defensor!
2) Woo, Defensor can... hold a jet... like a gun?
3) Woo, Defensor!

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:58 PM

I might have to get that Deathsaurus.

Defensor is an awesome idea, but I'm not sure I'm digging the final kit.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

Defensor didn't get too much press in G1! After Superion came around, it seemed the Autobots forgot about him.

But I had Defensor, and he was awesome.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:10 PM

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Defensor didn't get too much press in G1! After Superion came around, it seemed the Autobots forgot about him.

Didn't Superion come first?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:00 PM

About the same time but first in the cartoon and comic.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:16 PM


QUOTE(Meister79 @ Apr 14 2012, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


It looks like Deathsaurus himself comes with a "solid" outer chestplate for him to wear, and at the same time there is an entirely different-molded transforming Tigerbreast chestplate / animal partner packed in with one of the other figures that Deathy can wear too. So if you just buy Deathsaurus by his lonesome he'd at least look complete.


Edited by Thylacine2000, 14 April 2012 - 10:06 PM.


#73 Meister79

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:35 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Apr 15 2012, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Meister79 @ Apr 14 2012, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


It looks like Deathsaurus himself comes with a "solid" outer chestplate for him to wear, and at the same time there is an entirely different-molded transforming Tigerbreast chestplate / animal partner packed in with one of the other figures that Deathy can wear too. So if you just buy Deathsaurus by his lonesome he'd at least look complete.


Yeah, looking at the boxes, the tiger comes with Optimus, while the hawk comes with Hotspot.


#74 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 03:46 AM

I don't really care about Optimus (for once) or Deathsaurus... but that Protectobot combiner?

YES, PLEASE!

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Feb 1 2012, 05:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How's the plastic and paint quality on these?

Man, this is the first new "real" transforming Deathsaurus toy that people will care about (RIDMegs need not apply) in 20 years. It's enough to make you think there could ever be a chance for a reissue or update.


I wish that were the case, bt interest hasn't been too great among the general Japanese public in late G1 reissues, historically speaking.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:13 PM

I had been waffling on getting these, but finally decided to take the plunge after seeing pictures. I think hlj.com is the cheapest option? You end up getting way more than you need, but you can sell the extras on Ebay or whatever.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

QUOTE(Professor @ Apr 14 2012, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Defensor didn't get too much press in G1! After Superion came around, it seemed the Autobots forgot about him.

Didn't Superion come first?

Yes. Which just shows how quickly the Autobots forgot about Defensor.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:27 PM

The Defensor kit certainly is interesting, I'll say that.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:13 PM


Deathsaurus looks wonderful, but is simply too complex for his size and construction method. Some of the plastic tolerances don't work quite right - the head doesn't really snap into place but just sits in the hole between his shoulders, and the dragon tail is too small to have sufficient torque to completely clip together, as its own hinge seems to work against it. It's also more of a partsformer than I had expected, even at this size: you have to take off the wings and the arms, and Eaglebreast must be disassembled in order to "wear" him.

But damn, does it look good.



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Posted 07 May 2012 - 11:16 PM

Apart from the pop-off head, I thought Deathsaurus was great. The parts-forming was pretty minor compared to the clusterhug that is WFC Optimus. And adding in the semi-transforming breast plates from the other sets made him really fun. Only other complaint is that the transforming Tiger Breaster's handle blocks Deathsaurus' head in robot mode a bit.

My Deathsaurus didn't have any plastic tolerance problems, but my WFC Prime stressed horribly at the back of the knees. WFC Prime was pretty awful overall.

I got Hot Spot too, and he's awesome, even better than Deathsaurus--mostly transforms, with minor additional parts-forming. The combiner pieces being able to snap onto all modes is great too.

I have Gaia Guardian too, but I've only assembled two bots so far: Blades and Streetwise. So far, looking awesome in all modes and combined as limbs for Hot Spot. And no parts-forming--total transformation for those two. 'Scramble Power' is intact. All arms can become limbs and vice versa. Highly recommend this set so far!

Edited by Might Gaine, 07 May 2012 - 11:26 PM.

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