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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#21 NightViper

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:59 AM

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Finally, a new Deathsaurus. How big will he be?


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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:27 AM

Each figure comes with bonus parts (like the last wave did for Rodimus) to make the Full Deathsaurus (I imagine it includes his Breast Force plates and/or weapons).

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:34 AM

Y'know I really wish they'd do real G1 style toys like this. I mean compaired to modern toys the G1 guys were Quite simple and had a pretty small number of parts. I would think it'd be pretty cheep, compairitably, to churn out new actual Scramble City molds to be blindpacked.

That would be so cool...


-ZacWilliam, just a dream, I know, but blind packed G1 level Scramble City bits would be amazing... Especially if we got new team themes too... Makes Homer Simpson gurgling noises...

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:46 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 05:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spectre @ Jan 31 2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like you could still build a G1 style Defensor if you wanted to, since Skyfeather apparently becomes a shield, and Heatrock a chestplate.


Yes, that's the whole point of them combining with the larger Hot Spot. They right out and say that. You can do normal Gaia Guardian or God Gaurdian whose basically Defensor with sheild and armor.


-ZacWilliam, I want to see the new guys Dery-ized now.


Yes, I realize that they can combine with Hot Spot. My point was that the new guys are not required for that combination.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 09:50 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Y'know I really wish they'd do real G1 style toys like this. I mean compaired to modern toys the G1 guys were Quite simple and had a pretty small number of parts. I would think it'd be pretty cheep, compairitably, to churn out new actual Scramble City molds to be blindpacked.

That would be so cool...


-ZacWilliam, just a dream, I know, but blind packed G1 level Scramble City bits would be amazing... Especially if we got new team themes too... Makes Homer Simpson gurgling noises...

Yeah I do too, especially when things like their God Ginrai has more articulation than the original (and better proportions as well).

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spectre @ Jan 31 2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like you could still build a G1 style Defensor if you wanted to, since Skyfeather apparently becomes a shield, and Heatrock a chestplate.


Yes, that's the whole point of them combining with the larger Hot Spot. They right out and say that. You can do normal Gaia Guardian or God Gaurdian whose basically Defensor with sheild and armor.

Neither Gaia Defensor nor God Defensor is the original Defensor, though. Gaia is just the six "limbs", God is all seven guys. There's no picture here of regular old Defensor.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 31 2012, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spectre @ Jan 31 2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like you could still build a G1 style Defensor if you wanted to, since Skyfeather apparently becomes a shield, and Heatrock a chestplate.


Yes, that's the whole point of them combining with the larger Hot Spot. They right out and say that. You can do normal Gaia Guardian or God Gaurdian whose basically Defensor with sheild and armor.

Neither Gaia Defensor nor God Defensor is the original Defensor, though. Gaia is just the six "limbs", God is all seven guys. There's no picture here of regular old Defensor.

God Defensor is all seven guys, but specifically he's Defensor holding Skyfeather in one hand and wearing Heatrock on his chest. So it's not unreasonable to think you can probably do a regular Defensor.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Jan 31 2012, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 31 2012, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Spectre @ Jan 31 2012, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like you could still build a G1 style Defensor if you wanted to, since Skyfeather apparently becomes a shield, and Heatrock a chestplate.


Yes, that's the whole point of them combining with the larger Hot Spot. They right out and say that. You can do normal Gaia Guardian or God Gaurdian whose basically Defensor with sheild and armor.

Neither Gaia Defensor nor God Defensor is the original Defensor, though. Gaia is just the six "limbs", God is all seven guys. There's no picture here of regular old Defensor.

God Defensor is all seven guys, but specifically he's Defensor holding Skyfeather in one hand and wearing Heatrock on his chest. So it's not unreasonable to think you can probably do a regular Defensor.


Which is exactly what Spectre said originally icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:30 AM

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Which is exactly what Spectre said originally icon-hotrod.gif

I promise that whatever I ended up saying, I meant to be backing up Spectre originally.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:33 AM

It also only just now occurred to me that this is going to be a Deathsaurus-blue Hot Spot. That'll be different.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Y'know I really wish they'd do real G1 style toys like this. I mean compaired to modern toys the G1 guys were Quite simple and had a pretty small number of parts. I would think it'd be pretty cheep, compairitably, to churn out new actual Scramble City molds to be blindpacked.

That would be so cool...


-ZacWilliam, just a dream, I know, but blind packed G1 level Scramble City bits would be amazing... Especially if we got new team themes too... Makes Homer Simpson gurgling noises...


These are all gang-molded too, so that affects the character choice.

But, for a combiner, I'd prefer them like that. Makes them look more of a team, as opposed to 'those 5 random bots we found and stuck together'.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 31 2012, 11:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It also only just now occurred to me that this is going to be a Deathsaurus-blue Hot Spot. That'll be different.

That's not necessarily true (if say Deathsaurus had a darker blue and a lighter blue with the lighter blue not being used on Optimus). He could use a lighter blue if he's the only one to, but based on the pictures of the combined Guardian yeah he's going to be darker.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:34 PM


How's the plastic and paint quality on these?

Man, this is the first new "real" transforming Deathsaurus toy that people will care about (RIDMegs need not apply) in 20 years. It's enough to make you think there could ever be a chance for a reissue or update.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:37 PM

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How's the plastic and paint quality on these?

Man, this is the first new "real" transforming Deathsaurus toy that people will care about (RIDMegs need not apply) in 20 years. It's enough to make you think there could ever be a chance for a reissue or update.

No paint. Plastic is good considering their model kits (they're not fragile like Gundam kits can be). There is a little bit of give in the plastic like normal TF's tend to have.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:39 PM

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How's the plastic and paint quality on these?


What paint? icon-waspy.gif

They're cheap, snap together model kits that come with candy.

I haven't bought any of these, but if they're anything like the Super Sentai candy toys, they're at least molded from sturdy ABS plastic, so they won't be super fragile or anything.

They're molded in up to three basic colours, with a ton of stickers for detailing.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Jan 31 2012, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How's the plastic and paint quality on these?

Man, this is the first new "real" transforming Deathsaurus toy that people will care about (RIDMegs need not apply) in 20 years. It's enough to make you think there could ever be a chance for a reissue or update.


I have Ultra Magnus and the God Ginrai combiner. The plastic quality is better than I thought. It's obviously cheaper than a main-line transformer, but it's still good and solid. The stickers are holding surprisingly well, too, mostly. There's a couple I occasionally need to smooth down around the edges with a toothpick.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:44 PM


So all non-blue colors on him are stickers? At that size? Do we even know if that colored pic on the box is of this kit and not the G1 toy?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 04:51 PM

I have a suspicion you might be right, Thy, and that's just a mock up using a picture of the G1 toy (the pictures down the side are of the box are the previous wave of kits). He'll be more than just blue, though - they come molded in three colours (I'd guess dark blue, light blue and red?) - but these things do have an *insane* amount of stickers.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:15 PM


I'm 95% sure that's a pic of the original toy.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:26 PM

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I wonder if the new Protectobots will be engineered better than the new Multiforce or if they'll still be all partsformery to hell and back.
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I just wonder whether their exteriors will be constructed entirely of stickers like some other recent toys I could name.
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