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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?


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#221 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 31 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You also have to factor in that there's going to be a massive rush from the hardcore fans right at the beginning, and those figures aren't likely to be consistent throughout the sale.

This is a very important disclaimer. There's definitely a declining curve involved.

That said, the difficulties of getting through, coupled with the break between yesterday's order period and whenever things open up again (today?), make it harder than usual to predict what will happen this time around.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:16 PM

Ok soo it now officialy not morning on the East coast and still no pre-orders what is a paronoid obsessed fan to do? I guess I should bet back to work icon-fire.gif
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#223 OrionPax44

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:21 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 31 2012, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 31 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You also have to factor in that there's going to be a massive rush from the hardcore fans right at the beginning, and those figures aren't likely to be consistent throughout the sale.

This is a very important disclaimer. There's definitely a declining curve involved.

That said, the difficulties of getting through, coupled with the break between yesterday's order period and whenever things open up again (today?), make it harder than usual to predict what will happen this time around.


I almost guarantee we are gonna have another massive surge of it being the lucky ones to get through followed by another crash and so on and so on. Or maybe Im being to skeptical and still a little pissed bout yesterday
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:22 PM

Hey pete I'm curious, what were the numbers yu guys were getting when the Toys went live yesterday?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 31 2012, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 31 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You also have to factor in that there's going to be a massive rush from the hardcore fans right at the beginning, and those figures aren't likely to be consistent throughout the sale.

This is a very important disclaimer. There's definitely a declining curve involved.

That said, the difficulties of getting through, coupled with the break between yesterday's order period and whenever things open up again (today?), make it harder than usual to predict what will happen this time around.


I almost guarantee we are gonna have another massive surge of it being the lucky ones to get through followed by another crash and so on and so on. Or maybe Im being to skeptical and still a little pissed bout yesterday
I don't disagree, but I'm talking less about "will there be a surge?" or even "will there be more glitches?" and more about "will this toy sell out in a timeframe comparable to G2 Ramjet?"


#226 OrionPax44

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:59 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 31 2012, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jan 31 2012, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 31 2012, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 31 2012, 08:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You also have to factor in that there's going to be a massive rush from the hardcore fans right at the beginning, and those figures aren't likely to be consistent throughout the sale.

This is a very important disclaimer. There's definitely a declining curve involved.

That said, the difficulties of getting through, coupled with the break between yesterday's order period and whenever things open up again (today?), make it harder than usual to predict what will happen this time around.


I almost guarantee we are gonna have another massive surge of it being the lucky ones to get through followed by another crash and so on and so on. Or maybe Im being to skeptical and still a little pissed bout yesterday
I don't disagree, but I'm talking less about "will there be a surge?" or even "will there be more glitches?" and more about "will this toy sell out in a timeframe comparable to G2 Ramjet?"


I am right there with you. I think even with this 1/2 day shutdown If they bring back the pre-order within the next hour Runabout I think has a shot a selling out before the 24 hour period. I hope it doesn't cause I still need mine. If they can keep the sales flowing without a crash we will have a declining curve but with this I think it only increases the paranoia so. we have to wait and see. Wish me luck

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:05 PM


So. They're getting a new CC company.

Orders may hopefully be back up Wed.


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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:09 PM

So much for this morning icon-wheelie.gif let alone today icon-wheelie.gif so lets hope for wednesday and be prepared for April icon-fire.gif
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 31 2012, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So. They're getting a new CC company.

Orders may hopefully be back up Wed.


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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:15 PM

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OK... one more day.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:13 PM

I know it got lost in the mix here but seriously, how hard would it be to use Kickstarter for next year? Put it out there and let people "preorder" before production starts. Then, if they get enough preorders they could even conceivably lower the price or include some extras they didn't know they'd have the money for. If you want to buy a dozen, pay for a dozen and you're not taking orders away from those of us who just want one for our collection.

"Donate" X amount if you're a club member (include member number or something in the comments), and donate X+15% or whatever for non-club members. At this point they have an established enough track record that I'd trust the process and you'd actually have the added layer of security going through Paypal if you wanted.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:27 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Jan 31 2012, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it got lost in the mix here but seriously, how hard would it be to use Kickstarter for next year? Put it out there and let people "preorder" before production starts. Then, if they get enough preorders they could even conceivably lower the price or include some extras they didn't know they'd have the money for. If you want to buy a dozen, pay for a dozen and you're not taking orders away from those of us who just want one for our collection.


That is not a good idea. Let me tell you why.

First of all, FP shouldn't have to. The only thing wrong with their current setup is that it's antiquated. Kickstarter is for folks who otherwise have trouble raising money. That's not FP's problem. The problem is their website.

Second, just like Paypal, Kickstarter takes a sizeable portion. And then what's left gets sent into Amazon, and from there hopefully into your bank. This process takes a while. We're talking about adding another few months into the process. And then at the end of the year, you get taxed on the amount you raise as separate income. It's not a pretty process.

It's just really inelegant. It'd be many times worse than what we have to deal with now.

It's a good option for a guy like me who has to do this once a year and doesn't have the means to do it otherwise. FP does have the means. They have a staff. They have a very popular license. (They also have a license for G.I. Joe, har har.) If I could do things the way they do them, I'd do them that way.

But, you know, on better software.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

Gotcha. Thanks!

It just seems like there might be a way to get the best of both worlds where they could have real-world numbers for production (plus some extras) and eliminate much of the "day of" sale issues. This could also help those who need to set aside a bit at a time as the preorder window could be open for a month or so.

As much as I loathe something like Mattycollector's subscriptions, I would happily have given the Club the money for Over-Runabout after the first photoshops were out and they could just ship him when he's ready. Unlike Matty though I don't want to have to buy everything just to ensure I get what I want. Maybe that's an unrealistic desire on my part.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE(Dake @ Jan 31 2012, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As much as I loathe something like Mattycollector's subscriptions, I would happily have given the Club the money for Over-Runabout after the first photoshops were out and they could just ship him when he's ready.
That's... exactly what we're doing here, though? I mean the reason Matty does that is so they have a guaranteed baseline of how many of each figure to make. Fun Pub has already determined their production runs fairly decently, and they don't have as many figures to juggle.


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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:05 PM

So does Drift have either the big gun or the big sword, or does he only come with the smaller guns and swords?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:10 PM

From what they have told us he has the big sword 2 little swords and the 2 smaller guns
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 05:11 PM

All three swords, two small guns.
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:19 PM

He's also shown as storing the swords, so I believe (despite owning 4 versions of that mold - both Drifts and both Blurrs) he can't store his little guns in their holsters as Drift's holsters are made for the swords only (they tooling is different from Drift to Blurr).

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Jan 31 2012, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's also shown as storing the swords, so I believe (despite owning 4 versions of that mold - both Drifts and both Blurrs) he can't store his little guns in their holsters as Drift's holsters are made for the swords only (they tooling is different from Drift to Blurr).

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Just as well. My Blurr's guns don't really stay in the holsters; they easily slide out. That, combined with the fact that I'm going to display him holding his guns anyway, makes this a non-issue for me.



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