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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?


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#21 Fishbug

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:14 PM

That's twice now that Over-Run has been used in a "Crap! We need a new name!" situation.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:44 PM

Wasn't "Runabout" already known to be unavailable way back when Hasbro had to call his Cybertron counterpart Runamuck instead?

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:17 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Jan 27 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wasn't "Runabout" already known to be unavailable way back when Hasbro had to call his Cybertron counterpart Runamuck instead?

Yes but a lot can change in 7 years.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:45 PM

It seems like FunPub doesn't check until the toys are being produced for some reason, which seems odd. Same thing happened with Botcon Streetwise.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:46 PM

Couldn't they do Run-a-bout instead or will that not get around the problem?
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:47 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 27 2012, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It seems like FunPub doesn't check until the toys are being produced for some reason, which seems odd. Same thing happened with Botcon Streetwise.


Well, it's not an instant process. Especially since it has to go through Hasbro Legal.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't they do Run-a-bout instead or will that not get around the problem?


Any new trademark would have delayed the toys. Any trademark that would require a check by Hasbro Legal (whether it was due to age or other reasons) would have delayed the toys. So to keep the toys on schedule, a name from the past couple years was reused.

And this is of course just for the toy. Anything that has to do with the character in fiction will still call him "Runabout".

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't they do Run-a-bout instead or will that not get around the problem?

No.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:58 PM

Given how long we've known these guys were coming, and obviously FP has known for even longer, it does seem more than a little odd that they are seemingly just now discovering "Runabout" wasn't available. It smacks of a lack of planning.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:04 PM

Look! It's Over-RUN, he's ABOUT ready to join the battle!
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 27 2012, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Given how long we've known these guys were coming, and obviously FP has known for even longer, it does seem more than a little odd that they are seemingly just now discovering "Runabout" wasn't available. It smacks of a lack of planning.


Fun Pub doesn't hold any trademarks. That all belongs to Hasbro. So Hasbro have to be the ones to check to see if they own/can own the names. Fun Pub can't check anything.

So Fun Pub can plan all they want. And it can be a 100% fool proof plan on their end. But after all of that, they still have to rely on Hasbro for the whole thing to come together.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 27 2012, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fun Pub doesn't hold any trademarks. That all belongs to Hasbro. So Hasbro have to be the ones to check to see if they own/can own the names. Fun Pub can't check anything.

So Fun Pub can plan all they want. And it can be a 100% fool proof plan on their end. But after all of that, they still have to rely on Hasbro for the whole thing to come together.

Believe me, I know all too well how relying on Hasbro can work. Nonetheless, given this (in the form of Streetwise) has bitten FP in the past, I would think they might spend a little more time asking the appropriate parties "Hey, you ever find out if we can use 'Runabout'?".

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 27 2012, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 27 2012, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Couldn't they do Run-a-bout instead or will that not get around the problem?


Any new trademark would have delayed the toys. Any trademark that would require a check by Hasbro Legal (whether it was due to age or other reasons) would have delayed the toys. So to keep the toys on schedule, a name from the past couple years was reused.

And this is of course just for the toy. Anything that has to do with the character in fiction will still call him "Runabout".


I prefer to use the name on the packaging in most cases and think of a reason why they would change their name in fiction when upgrading to their new form. Whether its by choice like Bumblebee to Goldbug or forced changed names like Octane to Tankor.

Obviously I won't use names like Beast Changer.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:41 PM

Have they made a mention about what week they were gonna put the preorder up??
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:43 PM

Next week, supposedly.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:18 PM

They could have made him Canadian and called him Runaboot.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:21 PM

Should have called him Run-Over.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:38 PM

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Should have called him Run-Over.


The last (and only) time Run-Over was used was 2003. Nine years ago.

That's quite some time since someone at Hasbro checked on the name. It more than likely would have required a search.

Over-Run was used last year. No search necessary.

So if the time constraints were such that they could not wait for a search, Run-Over wasn't an option.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:07 AM

Battle Charger then. Last used a year ago. An appropriate name that does not change anything about him. When having to change a character's name, the original team name if they were in one should be the first thing to check.

But obviously I wouldn't want Octane to be given the name "Triple Changer" on his packaging.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

I am very tempted to join the club for this toy. Gorgeous.



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