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Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?


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#141 Treadshot 2.0

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Jan 27 2012, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I betcha we'll all be fine with this in two months, six tops.

Does anyone still get worked up over Windcharger, Deep Dive, or the lost PCC waves?

Oh and when is Entertainment Earth going to pull their Pre-orders?

I'd still be pissed if I hadn't found them. I mean, I finally got a Heavy Tread LAST WEEK. This is annoying. Not being able to get a new mold optimus prime is kind of a big deal.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:16 PM

I wouldn't be too worried: with years of life left in this franchise, between 2-packs and store exclusives, these molds won't stay hard-to-find forever. The only x-factor's potential deco changes like battle damage or tribal tattoos or sponsorship ads energy crackles or what have you, as many fans will usually want their molds "pristine". (I don't, but some do: give me the US Sidearm Sideswipe any day.)
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:43 PM

All that's left at BBTS for the japanese version is 12 vehicons!
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:35 PM

Hasbro: We got these early edtion Transformer Prime Toys to showcase our new series with anyone wanna put thim on theres shelfs?

Wal-Mart: No I overstocked on Dark of the Moon toys even thought I was still trying to get rid of Revenge of the Fallen toys

Target: No Im in the same boat as Wal-Mart I dont want to allocate shelf space to a new TF product

TRU: Yes..No..Maybe just a few and thats it

Hasbro: Well I guess thats everyone then..wait what about online stores...well put out a note and see if they do..but nah.. no one wants thim scrap the idea

BBTS,HTS,TFScorce,: NOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo!!

Anyway why could we not order thim though Amazon and such?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:38 PM

I just saw an eBay auction with FE OP, Bulk, and Cliff go for 200 plus 35 shipping, buy it now.
Yikes.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 28 2012, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dake @ Jan 28 2012, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@ Corvus: True - I just can't imagine Hasbro browbeat TRU into it. We'll likely never know for sure - Hasbro isn't going to berate TRU publicly for it. But Hasbro must have said, "Hey, we can have these figures ready at this time if you want them." and TRU agreed only to change their mind. Hasbro has said time and again they don't move forward unless they have retailer support.

Option C might be they were hoping online retailers would have more preorders and those goals weren't met so they scrapped the whole thing - but that seems even further-fetched to me.


The problem with this assumption is that the figures appeared in Canada. And Hasbro didn't just make 20 of each, and send them to TRU Canada.

The full production run was MADE. It went SOMEWHERE. How the online retailers aren't getting SOME of it is beyond explanation. Even all the other "disappearing tail-end" stuff that's come up (Windcharger, PCCs, Universe legends) were STOCKED by BBTS and others; Maybe not enough to satisfy demand, but they still placed their orders, and got their product.

The only times BBTS or other retailers have had to cancel their preorders is when the product is never even made; like the last RTS Scout wave with Rumble and Bodyblock. Those never got their production run at all, so they never showed up anywhere. But...TRU Canada has gotten the Entertainment pack, Cliffjumper, and the Voyagers. And those are the preorders that BBTS will (supposedly) be cancelling.


I'd say you're probably right and that puts more blame on TRU's shoulders in my mind. The toys are out there they just changed their minds.

Now BBTS is something entirely different and I too don't understand why it would matter what TRU did or didn't do as far as their stock is concerned.

If they don't hit ROSS, then I expect Australia will be inundated with them.

I just thought of another possibility. Mattel called 'em up and was like, "Hey... uh... you know how everyone's all mad at us because we can't manage to sell He-man right? Could you maybe do something to take the heat off us for a bit? kthnxbai."

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:54 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 28 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This leaves all of us in a pretty jivey situation; I've passed up on stuff I saw at TRU, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up reasonable eBay prices, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up on asking a Canadian to aquire some of the products I want for me, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder.

None of these options are viable anymore. And BBTS should know that I, and 90% of the folks who have FE stuff on Preorder don't want RiD product instead.

So while the situation seems to be a Hasbro foul-up, I'm just as displeased with BBTS if this is all how it looks so far. They made a pretty big deal about promoting themselves as the ONLY garunteed way to get this product (In fact, initially implying there'd be no retail release at all). And now they've suckered a lot of people into being left without any options but insane price gouging (Buy Takara, eBay) or being SOL on the whole line.

This echoes exactly how I felt. When people were buying FE Voyager Op off eBay, I wanted to jump but made myself wait because I had my BBTS pre-orders. Now, it seems I'm going to have to either accept being gouged or just do without, unless some friendly Canuck is able to assist me.

This bites.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 28 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
BBTS hasn't actually cancelled anyone's preorders, that I know of. One CSR (Rita) has replied to a couple of people who e-mailed BBTS asking where the hell their stuff is with what QuantumHawk quoted above.

The listings are still up, and taking preorders. My Preorder is still in effect. I have recieved absolutely no notice, warning, or hint that anything's going on, except through this thread.

So...I really don't know what to make of all this. It seems particularly shady if BBTS knows (and HAS known) that the product isn't coming in, but haven't told their customers...unless they randomly inquire? But otherwise, they leave all the preorders up, and go home for the weekend? Meawhile, (as of last night) all the equivilent Takara product is sold out. (and twice the price, but that's just how it is)

This leaves all of us in a pretty jivey situation; I've passed up on stuff I saw at TRU, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up reasonable eBay prices, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up on asking a Canadian to aquire some of the products I want for me, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder.

None of these options are viable anymore. And BBTS should know that I, and 90% of the folks who have FE stuff on Preorder don't want RiD product instead.

So while the situation seems to be a Hasbro foul-up, I'm just as displeased with BBTS if this is all how it looks so far. They made a pretty big deal about promoting themselves as the ONLY garunteed way to get this product (In fact, initially implying there'd be no retail release at all). And now they've suckered a lot of people into being left without any options but insane price gouging (Buy Takara, eBay) or being SOL on the whole line.

This is pretty much exactly my problem and outlook. I've been doing business with BBTS for at least ten years without a hitch, so when this comes along, I feel pretty burned.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:32 PM

On the one hand this really stinks for any collectors who really wanted particular versions of the molds. Personally for me it's not as bad as the characters I planned to get so far (Wheeljack Ratchet Arcee) will be in RiD and I don't think I will be worse off for getting them there.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:43 PM

I don't understand why this happened, at all.
I just wanted Cliffjumper, the more recent version looks significantly less impressive. I can't discern much difference between the First Edition Prime and the one with translucent arms. Though, that's a bit disappointing as well.



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Posted 28 January 2012 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Strafe @ Jan 28 2012, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't understand why this happened, at all.
I just wanted Cliffjumper, the more recent version looks significantly less impressive. I can't discern much difference between the First Edition Prime and the one with translucent arms. Though, that's a bit disappointing as well.


I just picked up FE Prime and can assure you he is significantly better than the RiD version. It may not be as demonstrable in photos as the difference between the two Cliffjumpers, but it's certainly a world of difference when you get your hands on him.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 07:12 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Jan 28 2012, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Jan 28 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This leaves all of us in a pretty jivey situation; I've passed up on stuff I saw at TRU, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up reasonable eBay prices, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder. I've passed up on asking a Canadian to aquire some of the products I want for me, because I was waiting for my BBTS Preorder.

None of these options are viable anymore. And BBTS should know that I, and 90% of the folks who have FE stuff on Preorder don't want RiD product instead.

So while the situation seems to be a Hasbro foul-up, I'm just as displeased with BBTS if this is all how it looks so far. They made a pretty big deal about promoting themselves as the ONLY garunteed way to get this product (In fact, initially implying there'd be no retail release at all). And now they've suckered a lot of people into being left without any options but insane price gouging (Buy Takara, eBay) or being SOL on the whole line.

This echoes exactly how I felt. When people were buying FE Voyager Op off eBay, I wanted to jump but made myself wait because I had my BBTS pre-orders. Now, it seems I'm going to have to either accept being gouged or just do without, unless some friendly Canuck is able to assist me.

This bites.


Yep same thing here. I didn't buy anything off of Ebay or Canadian sellers with BST threads because I was secure in the knowledge that I had preorders at BBTS and therefore was assured getting everything I wanted for just a small markup. Now I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that a Canadian contact I have can find me a Bulkhead, Prime, and Cliffjumper so I don't hafta pay scalper prices for them. In the 11 or so years that I've been dealing with BBTS this has never happened to me before, words can't describe the aggravation I feel right now.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:45 PM

I'm sorry, is there any indication that Canadian TRU stores are restocking FE toys? I was under the impression that they got in their initial stock and maybe a brief restock of some deluxes and then they've been bare.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:49 PM

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I'm sorry, is there any indication that Canadian TRU stores are restocking FE toys? I was under the impression that they got in their initial stock and maybe a brief restock of some deluxes and then they've been bare.


I've seen at least three restocks of Prime FE at Canadian TRUs. Last one was probably two weeks ago.

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#155 CORVUS

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:05 PM

So, can we perhaps start a thread in the BST forum, and sticky it, for people looking to acquire FE toys and people in the Great White North willing to go to bat and hook them up if possible?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:11 PM

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Just as a heads up for everyone, BBTS has some preorders back open again for the Takara versions of First Edition Bulkhead and Cliffjumper. They might go fast, so you better get on it. The Japanese versions are slightly nicer looking, and might be slightly cheaper than aftermarket prices on the Hasbro ones anyway:

http://www.bigbadtoy...p;category=8098

First Edition stuff is on the second page of the link.


Those are the main line releases. Not the FE versions.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:12 PM

QUOTE(Magick @ Jan 28 2012, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 28 2012, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just as a heads up for everyone, BBTS has some preorders back open again for the Takara versions of First Edition Bulkhead and Cliffjumper. They might go fast, so you better get on it. The Japanese versions are slightly nicer looking, and might be slightly cheaper than aftermarket prices on the Hasbro ones anyway:

http://www.bigbadtoy...p;category=8098

First Edition stuff is on the second page of the link.


Those are the main line releases. Not the FE versions.


FE versions are on page 2.

Edit: Cliffjumper's already sold out. Glad I got in on that when it first opened.

Edited by Shattered, 28 January 2012 - 09:14 PM.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

And the Optimus Prime pre-order is also sold out.

Dammit.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Jan 29 2012, 02:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, can we perhaps start a thread in the BST forum, and sticky it, for people looking to acquire FE toys and people in the Great White North willing to go to bat and hook them up if possible?


That's what they're doing at TFW so why not here?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Jan 29 2012, 02:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And the Optimus Prime pre-order is also sold out.

Dammit.


Yeah, the Takara First Edition Optimus Prime preorder never was opened back up today that I saw. And yes, I shockingly knew what I was talking about all along. icon-fire.gif

Times like these make me wish they had a waitlist system for when preorders open back up Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.

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