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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#481 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Feb 7 2012, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2012, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah it was the TakaraTomy one. The instructions didn't point out (at least I hadn't noticed) flipping that section out, and how his legs were supposed to fold at the knees to fit inside the car.

Randy

Yeah, the Takara instructions were terrible. I'm still not convinced I'm doing it right--the car's sides still bulge out way more easily than it seems they should--but trying to figure out how to get that toy from robot to car the first time using those instructions was just hopeless. There were clearly notes pointing out important non-pictured steps, but, well, I don't speak Japanese.

I think the Hasbro version, packaged as a car, would be much easier to deal with.

Did you fold the black parts of his legs down (the knees), as they fold down and to the side sort of like the below when transforming him?

Wrong


Right


Or a approximation of the above.

Randy

Yeah, that was definitely a key discovery, after about 20 minutes of effort. At the moment, he's all put together with no gaps. Still, the car's side panels just seem like they want to pop out at the slightest touch.

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#482 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 7 2012, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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TRANSFORMERS fans,

As we greatly value our TRANSFORMERS fans and consumers, we appreciate the opportunity to clarify and explain the current situation with TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figure availability in the U.S.

We very much apologize for the miscommunication with our great retailers in the U.S. Regrettably, as a result, the TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition Wave 2 Deluxe, Wave 1 Voyager and Entertainment Pack figures were posted for pre-sale in error. Final product was not produced for these figures to ship within the U.S. As such, any consumer who placed a pre-sale order with Big Bad Toy Store or Entertainment Earth in the U.S. received a note that their order had been cancelled and these orders will not be fulfilled. While it is common for Hasbro to cancel production and/or shipment of collectible figures prior to being listed for pre-sale, this particular situation was unique. We deeply regret this circumstance and understand your frustration.

We would also like to express that we hear the fan community in the U.S. loud and clear – you want these specific TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figures. While we can’t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.


Regards,

The TRANSFORMERS Team


Well, that's actually nice to hear. Usually Hasbro reps seem to be surprised when someone asks at BotCon why one toy or another didn't get solid distribution. I guess since this stuff really didn't get released at all, they were aware.

Now I can still hope FE Voyager Optimus gets a U.S. release at some point. With painted hubcaps please.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:52 PM

Better than nothing I guess, but in essence probably no different from any other time they really want to get a product out (like Animated Blackout).
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:54 PM

That just raises further questions IMO.


Why did they not expect to sell these items in the US???
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

That's nice they at least acknowledge it and the fact that fans were disappointed they were not released.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:08 PM

The statement seems to boil down to "we decided not to try to sell these in the US, and that's why you couldn't get them," which doesn't actually say anything we hadn't figured out before. The only new information is the implication that there's not a stock of these toys in US packaging sitting somewhere waiting to go to TJ Maxx, which means we're screwed over for these toys completely now.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Paladin @ Feb 7 2012, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That just raises further questions IMO.


Why did they not expect to sell these items in the US???


Because the Toys R Us in the US did not order any. Takara and other Asian distrubutors got theirs, Canadian TRUs got theirs, but US TRU's didn't order any, so they never came to the rest of US retail.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:14 PM

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While we can?t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.


Isn't this basically exactly what they said about Windcharger?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

They better live up on that promise to deliver them later. I'm ok with waiting a bit.




A LITTLE bit.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:28 PM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 7 2012, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...


Didn't they also say this about the end of the Animated line? The did deliver on a few of those, but no Black Out.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


Promise, huh? I'm glad we're already misconstruing the announcement.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:32 PM

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:33 PM

QUOTE(Phlis @ Feb 7 2012, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 7 2012, 03:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...


Didn't they also say this about the end of the Animated line? The did deliver on a few of those, but no Black Out.


The main difference is that at the time Animated was ending/over whereas Prime is literally just starting. They should have a lot more chances and time to try and fit these in. That still doesn't make it a promise though, but it gives us a better shot at a few of them at least.


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:44 PM

Pretty sure it all depends on how the Bumblebee/Starscream pack sells. If there's reason to do more packs like that, they'll come.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

Problem is, I wonder how many people have already found other avenues for getting the toys, and won't necessarily care about a release later?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

Well, I'd like to get the toys now, but there's a cap On what I'm willing to spend on FE CJ and I'm simply not going to pay the eBay prices for any others Voyager Optimus, Bulkhead, or the entertainment pack. But we have zero options on getting Terrorcon CJ (I'm not worried about the older Eradicon design).

The fact that we are (supposed) to get FE BB and Starscream in that two pack makes me hopeful, as does the fact that we're just now starting the TFP line. As someone else mentioned, this isn't quite like Animated where the show's over and there's no retail market for these toys.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

This makes sense if you assume that the people who actually know anything about this told the PR and Legal people to draft a message so they don't get beat up at Toyfair.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:02 PM

I actually think Hasbro will do what it can to get these molds to the USDM, since this is only the begging of the line, and it's an easy PR win for them when they do get the molds out.

Unlike with the Animated tail-enders, which would have been a struggle to fit anywhere.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Feb 7 2012, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually think Hasbro will do what it can to get these molds to the USDM, since this is only the begging of the line, and it's an easy PR win for them when they do get the molds out.

Unlike with the Animated tail-enders, which would have been a struggle to fit anywhere.


That's a pretty important distinction. People make comparisons to the unreleased Animated molds, but in hindsight, I think it was pretty obvious that when Hasbro said they were looking for avenues to release them, they were doing it in that "parents telling you your sick dog is going to go live on a farm" tone of voice.

That said, I could easily see us still waiting for the FE molds in 2013, and Hasbro saying, "Hey, we released the Starscream/Bumblebee pack, didn't we?"
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