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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#481 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Feb 7 2012, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Feb 7 2012, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah it was the TakaraTomy one. The instructions didn't point out (at least I hadn't noticed) flipping that section out, and how his legs were supposed to fold at the knees to fit inside the car.

Randy

Yeah, the Takara instructions were terrible. I'm still not convinced I'm doing it right--the car's sides still bulge out way more easily than it seems they should--but trying to figure out how to get that toy from robot to car the first time using those instructions was just hopeless. There were clearly notes pointing out important non-pictured steps, but, well, I don't speak Japanese.

I think the Hasbro version, packaged as a car, would be much easier to deal with.

Did you fold the black parts of his legs down (the knees), as they fold down and to the side sort of like the below when transforming him?

Wrong


Right


Or a approximation of the above.

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Yeah, that was definitely a key discovery, after about 20 minutes of effort. At the moment, he's all put together with no gaps. Still, the car's side panels just seem like they want to pop out at the slightest touch.

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#482 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 7 2012, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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TRANSFORMERS fans,

As we greatly value our TRANSFORMERS fans and consumers, we appreciate the opportunity to clarify and explain the current situation with TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figure availability in the U.S.

We very much apologize for the miscommunication with our great retailers in the U.S. Regrettably, as a result, the TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition Wave 2 Deluxe, Wave 1 Voyager and Entertainment Pack figures were posted for pre-sale in error. Final product was not produced for these figures to ship within the U.S. As such, any consumer who placed a pre-sale order with Big Bad Toy Store or Entertainment Earth in the U.S. received a note that their order had been cancelled and these orders will not be fulfilled. While it is common for Hasbro to cancel production and/or shipment of collectible figures prior to being listed for pre-sale, this particular situation was unique. We deeply regret this circumstance and understand your frustration.

We would also like to express that we hear the fan community in the U.S. loud and clear – you want these specific TRANSFORMERS PRIME First Edition figures. While we can’t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.


Regards,

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Well, that's actually nice to hear. Usually Hasbro reps seem to be surprised when someone asks at BotCon why one toy or another didn't get solid distribution. I guess since this stuff really didn't get released at all, they were aware.

Now I can still hope FE Voyager Optimus gets a U.S. release at some point. With painted hubcaps please.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:52 PM

Better than nothing I guess, but in essence probably no different from any other time they really want to get a product out (like Animated Blackout).
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:54 PM

That just raises further questions IMO.


Why did they not expect to sell these items in the US???
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 02:56 PM

That's nice they at least acknowledge it and the fact that fans were disappointed they were not released.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:08 PM

The statement seems to boil down to "we decided not to try to sell these in the US, and that's why you couldn't get them," which doesn't actually say anything we hadn't figured out before. The only new information is the implication that there's not a stock of these toys in US packaging sitting somewhere waiting to go to TJ Maxx, which means we're screwed over for these toys completely now.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE(Paladin @ Feb 7 2012, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That just raises further questions IMO.


Why did they not expect to sell these items in the US???


Because the Toys R Us in the US did not order any. Takara and other Asian distrubutors got theirs, Canadian TRUs got theirs, but US TRU's didn't order any, so they never came to the rest of US retail.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:14 PM

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While we can?t confirm anything at this time, and the format in which these figures are packaged and distributed may change, the team is looking into ways to make these available at a later date in the U.S. and will keep the fan community and our retailers posted as opportunities develop. We want to make this right, and making these figures available to the U.S. fans is a top priority for the team. We greatly appreciate your understanding and ongoing enthusiasm for the brand and hope in the mean time, you enjoy the TRANSFORMERS PRIME figures that are hitting shelves now and in the coming weeks.


Isn't this basically exactly what they said about Windcharger?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

They better live up on that promise to deliver them later. I'm ok with waiting a bit.




A LITTLE bit.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(Master Fwiffo @ Feb 7 2012, 03:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...


Didn't they also say this about the end of the Animated line? The did deliver on a few of those, but no Black Out.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:29 PM

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They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


Promise, huh? I'm glad we're already misconstruing the announcement.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:33 PM

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They better live up on that promise to deliver them later.


They don't promise that.

They say they're looking into possible options to release them.

Those are two very different things.


ZacWilliam, sees two packs next holiday as a possibility for Deluxes at least...


Didn't they also say this about the end of the Animated line? The did deliver on a few of those, but no Black Out.


The main difference is that at the time Animated was ending/over whereas Prime is literally just starting. They should have a lot more chances and time to try and fit these in. That still doesn't make it a promise though, but it gives us a better shot at a few of them at least.


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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:44 PM

Pretty sure it all depends on how the Bumblebee/Starscream pack sells. If there's reason to do more packs like that, they'll come.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 03:45 PM

Problem is, I wonder how many people have already found other avenues for getting the toys, and won't necessarily care about a release later?

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

Well, I'd like to get the toys now, but there's a cap On what I'm willing to spend on FE CJ and I'm simply not going to pay the eBay prices for any others Voyager Optimus, Bulkhead, or the entertainment pack. But we have zero options on getting Terrorcon CJ (I'm not worried about the older Eradicon design).

The fact that we are (supposed) to get FE BB and Starscream in that two pack makes me hopeful, as does the fact that we're just now starting the TFP line. As someone else mentioned, this isn't quite like Animated where the show's over and there's no retail market for these toys.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

This makes sense if you assume that the people who actually know anything about this told the PR and Legal people to draft a message so they don't get beat up at Toyfair.

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:02 PM

I actually think Hasbro will do what it can to get these molds to the USDM, since this is only the begging of the line, and it's an easy PR win for them when they do get the molds out.

Unlike with the Animated tail-enders, which would have been a struggle to fit anywhere.
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Posted 07 February 2012 - 04:06 PM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Feb 7 2012, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually think Hasbro will do what it can to get these molds to the USDM, since this is only the begging of the line, and it's an easy PR win for them when they do get the molds out.

Unlike with the Animated tail-enders, which would have been a struggle to fit anywhere.


That's a pretty important distinction. People make comparisons to the unreleased Animated molds, but in hindsight, I think it was pretty obvious that when Hasbro said they were looking for avenues to release them, they were doing it in that "parents telling you your sick dog is going to go live on a farm" tone of voice.

That said, I could easily see us still waiting for the FE molds in 2013, and Hasbro saying, "Hey, we released the Starscream/Bumblebee pack, didn't we?"
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