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@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.


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#21 Agent X

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:19 AM

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Guys.

Be men.

Don't fabricate stories or excuses about why you're buying ponies.

Just buy the damn ponies.

Be men.

WORD! So you guys can walk up to a store counter with a arm full of Transformers but can't order a Happy Meal? I even asked which ones they had. Had to buy another Rarity and Cheerilee after I got the full set.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:56 AM

I really liked the big BK heads from DOTM. Very nicely detailed, plus the two characters I wanted were also the two who glowed in the dark. Synergy.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 10:00 AM

I really liked how the Armada ones had minicon hardpoints and ports.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:09 AM

QUOTE(Boltax @ Jan 26 2012, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Jan 26 2012, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys.

Be men.

Don't fabricate stories or excuses about why you're buying ponies.

Just buy the damn ponies.

Be men.


Seriously. When frickin' Walky is telling you how to man up, you know you're a sad case. What are you guys, thirteen?

You're seriously embarassed by what some idiot at McDonalds will think of you if you buy MLP toys?

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(I thoroughly approve of Walky's earlier anecdote about overriding his wife and exclaiming that the toys are for him.)

Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:10 AM

QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 26 2012, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really liked how the Armada ones had minicon hardpoints and ports.

Shoot, the Armada happy meal toys should have been minicons. That was a missed opportunity if ever there was one.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Esser-Z @ Jan 26 2012, 08:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really liked how the Armada ones had minicon hardpoints and ports.

Shoot, the Armada happy meal toys should have been minicons. That was a missed opportunity if ever there was one.


This.

See my earlier post.


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:53 PM

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Guys.

Be men.

Don't fabricate stories or excuses about why you're buying ponies.

Just buy the damn ponies.

Be men.


You deserve the pony.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Daytonus @ Jan 25 2012, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we haven't had awesome fast food TFs since Beast Wars/Machines.

None of the Happy Meal/Fast Food promos have been nearly as good as the very first McDonalds Beast Wars set that gave us actual New Original Characters with actually pretty neat minibot-type tfing toys. Loved those SO much that every promo since has been a let down.

The only runner up in coolness was Beast Machines which at least provided a resonably in scale Nightscream (how sad is it that he easily trumps the giant ultra one in my collection) and lots of inexpensive (though tiny) on model Vehicon drones.

I'm not sure what these could do that would be equally cool but I doubt they'll do it. ...I'm so bitter and dissolusioned about fast food freebies now...

Personally, I just want them (that is, whoever's doing a TF kids meal promotion) to do actual TFs that transform again. However simplistic. The last few promotions (were they all movie-related? I think they were. Another reason for me to hate the movies) utterly failed in even attempting actual transformations, focusing instead on stupid "action" features.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:01 PM

If Sherlock Holmes is a man.
And Sherlock Holmes chose a pony.

Then it follows that all men choose ponies.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:52 PM

hug everything about this.

Except the Transformers. Because yay.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:31 PM

QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif


I guess things are different here than they are over there. Here in Australia I just walk in, ask what happy meal toys they have and buy the toys seperately.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif


I guess things are different here than they are over there. Here in Australia I just walk in, ask what happy meal toys they have and buy the toys seperately.

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Nah, I'm pretty sure you can do that here too.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif


I guess things are different here than they are over there. Here in Australia I just walk in, ask what happy meal toys they have and buy the toys seperately.

--Andrew S.


It varies vastly from location to location.

Some require you purchase a Happy Meal for each toy. Some require the purchase of one Happy Meal with the opportunity to buy additional toys. Some let you buy just the toys by themselves for a slight discount. Some let you buy just the toys, but charge you the full price of the Happy Meal anyway.

So it really depends on the manager more than anything.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:01 PM

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If Sherlock Holmes is a man.
And Sherlock Holmes chose a pony.

Then it follows that all men choose ponies.

Carrots can't drive tractors. The Empire State Building can't drive a tractor.

Therefore the Empire State Building is a carrot.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif


I guess things are different here than they are over there. Here in Australia I just walk in, ask what happy meal toys they have and buy the toys seperately.

--Andrew S.


It varies vastly from location to location.

Some require you purchase a Happy Meal for each toy. Some require the purchase of one Happy Meal with the opportunity to buy additional toys. Some let you buy just the toys by themselves for a slight discount. Some let you buy just the toys, but charge you the full price of the Happy Meal anyway.

So it really depends on the manager more than anything.


Or there's San Francisco, where McDonald's is having to circumvent the local laws by saying that you can buy a Happy Meal for regular price, but if you want one of the toys it's an additional $0.10 donation to the Ronald McDonald House.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:31 AM

McPony toys are actually out in Hungary already. They only have Twilight Sparkle and Pinkie Pie so far, though, and it seems Celestia and Cheerilee are not part of the line at all.
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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:21 AM

Well, I'm down with this. I never did get any of the MLP last time...

...I wonder if Cliffjumper will be on the TF side...?

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 05:01 AM

If they're going to do a red car in this, it better be Knock Out.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 08:29 AM

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If they're going to do a red car in this, it better be Knock Out.

Puh-lease. Knock Out wouldn't be caught dead at a grease trap like McDonald's. Do you know what cooking grease does to one's paint job?

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Corgsopal @ Jan 26 2012, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. But taking my niece meant I could buy 2 apply meals without having to eat that much McDonald's food. icon-fire.gif


I guess things are different here than they are over there. Here in Australia I just walk in, ask what happy meal toys they have and buy the toys seperately.

--Andrew S.


It varies vastly from location to location.

Some require you purchase a Happy Meal for each toy. Some require the purchase of one Happy Meal with the opportunity to buy additional toys. Some let you buy just the toys by themselves for a slight discount. Some let you buy just the toys, but charge you the full price of the Happy Meal anyway.

So it really depends on the manager more than anything.

Yeah, the one where I was living at the time would not sell toys without the meal.
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