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@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...


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#1 NightViper

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:17 PM

http://www.equestria...g-in-march.html

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Someone named EVN tipped me off in email about some upcoming McDonalds, so I called the them up to confirm it.

Apparently another wave of ponies is planned for March 9th (though she told me not to quote her on that exact date), along with Transformers on the boys side. They don't know specifically what characters/designs will be available, but she did say they usually try to release new sets, so hopefully something awesome pops up.

I was also told that this is going to be a huge promotion, and they expect to sell out of them pretty quickly. I guess our rabid collecting last time around tipped them off? We didn't have much access to blind bags back then, so these and the five piece molded set were the only show accurate stuff we could get our hands on (Even if McDonalds toys aren't really known for their quality). It sure was funny trying to sneak into McDonalds incognito style only to be called out as the third guy to come looking for ponies for his "Niece" or "Sister". I'm sure it will be twice as funny this time around.



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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

TFP, I guess.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:41 PM

The trick is to go to the resteraunt with a niece AND a sister(just in case).
Reclaim the suffix.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:45 PM

I remember when my wife and I went hounding for McPonies. My wife tried to do the whole "what would our kid want, the yellow one or the pink one" but I cut her off right away, "DUDE THESE ARE FOR ME. HELLO, CASHIER. THESE ARE FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE."

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:18 PM

I never got Rarity, Rainbow or Applejack, so I'm hoping-

uhh, I mean,

TF Prime! Yeah! I hope they do an Optimus Prime!


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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:23 PM

You know, this is good for us. You go in, you ask for one boys toy, one girls toy. It actually comes across less weird (at least in my head). Uh.

I mean, what Fwiffo said! Right on!

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 10:46 PM

Well let's hope for transformable toys unlike the movie-based ones that just had gimmick arms.

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:09 PM

I don't think I'll need the ponies, and we haven't had awesome fast food TFs since Beast Wars/Machines.



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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:19 PM

Drive-thru. They just assume you're getting it for your kid, and happy meals are lower calorie options.

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:21 PM

One of my brothers usually comes up with his wife and kids for Spring Break.

I could hypothetically go into one of the local Wal-Marts and ask for all the MLP and TF Happy Meals I want and have a perfect excuse. icon-op.gif
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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:44 PM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Jan 25 2012, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think I'll need the ponies, and we haven't had awesome fast food TFs since Beast Wars/Machines.

I liked the ones for Animated!

You're far too young to be this bitter and angry at the world....

I'm reading that with Roy's voice. Heck, I read everything you post in a laconic Irish accent.

 


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Posted 25 January 2012 - 11:49 PM

YesYesYesYesYesYesYesYesYes!!![/Twilight Sparkle]

...Oh. We're on the Transformers side of the AllSpark, aren't we?



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Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:22 AM

Guys.

Be men.

Don't fabricate stories or excuses about why you're buying ponies.

Just buy the damn ponies.

Be men.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 12:22 AM

Hahahahaha awesome.


If I wanted the ponies this would be a cakewalk for me as I have 3 daughters. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:32 AM

I wonder what the TF stuff will look like?

Probably will pick up the ponies though, hopefully they'll be show accurate. With proper colors and Applejack's hat.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:35 AM

The only Pony I got last time around was Fluttershy. I may try to get one or two more, or if I can, round out the mane six.

Also, Transformers?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 04:43 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Jan 26 2012, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys.

Be men.

Don't fabricate stories or excuses about why you're buying ponies.

Just buy the damn ponies.

Be men.


Seriously. When frickin' Walky is telling you how to man up, you know you're a sad case. What are you guys, thirteen?

You're seriously embarassed by what some idiot at McDonalds will think of you if you buy MLP toys?

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:19 AM

I can't say I understand the need for the MLP toys. I'm already enough of a misfit buying little boy's toys, plus I truly don't desire small plastic rainbow horses. I'm sure it's a great show, but still. Now, maybe if they [i]transformed[i]...

Also, I support the sentiment for wanting actual transforming happy meal toys. The Animated ones were particularly great since they came with those $5 off coupons...maybe they'll do that again.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Jan 25 2012, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we haven't had awesome fast food TFs since Beast Wars/Machines.


To digress from the "pony shame" for a moment.

None of the Happy Meal/Fast Food promos have been nearly as good as the very first McDonalds Beast Wars set that gave us actual New Original Characters with actually pretty neat minibot-type tfing toys. Loved those SO much that every promo since has been a let down.

The only runner up in coolness was Beast Machines which at least provided a resonably in scale Nightscream (how sad is it that he easily trumps the giant ultra one in my collection) and lots of inexpensive (though tiny) on model Vehicon drones.

I'm not sure what these could do that would be equally cool but I doubt they'll do it. ...I'm so bitter and dissolusioned about fast food freebies now...


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Posted 26 January 2012 - 08:03 AM

They should just mix them together and give us ponies that transform into Prime characters

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