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@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again


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#1 NightViper

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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:15 PM

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Someone named EVN tipped me off in email about some upcoming McDonalds, so I called the them up to confirm it.

Apparently another wave of ponies is planned for March 9th (though she told me not to quote her on that exact date), along with Transformers on the boys side. They don't know specifically what characters/designs will be available, but she did say they usually try to release new sets, so hopefully something awesome pops up.

I was also told that this is going to be a huge promotion, and they expect to sell out of them pretty quickly. I guess our rabid collecting last time around tipped them off? We didn't have much access to blind bags back then, so these and the five piece molded set were the only show accurate stuff we could get our hands on (Even if McDonalds toys aren't really known for their quality). It sure was funny trying to sneak into McDonalds incognito style only to be called out as the third guy to come looking for ponies for his "Niece" or "Sister". I'm sure it will be twice as funny this time around.


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Posted 25 January 2012 - 09:59 PM

Ack double the Happy meal buying icon-screamer.gif Lots of mcnuggets and cheeseburgers for me. And yes I know it's possible to buy them seperate. I'd rather get the meal anyways icon-fire.gif
I did end up grabbing the whole round of ponies last year. But I want to see if these are similar to the last set or if it's random gimmick toys. Same for the Transformers. I like ones like they did for Animated but the stuff BK did for the movies tended to be nothing of interest.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 01:39 AM

This should be interesting. Wasn't there supposed to be a Happy Meal My Little Pony/Pok?mon promo in Europe soonish? I assume whatever toys they end up using will be the same in both regions.

Ugh, I wish they'd scheduled these for the summer promos rather than the winter ones. We always go get Happy Meals with the free coupons our library's summer reading program gives out and donate the toys as prizes in our annual family get-together's Bingo game. We pretty much have no reason to go near McDonald'ses any other time of year.

On the lighter side, this gives me an opportunity to crank out a certain comic I'd been wanting to do.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:13 AM

They could always "recycle" the lightup Brazil ones too.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 02:19 AM

I'd like to replace Pinkie Pie with a better one at least--totally the weakest of the last bunch. And maybe they'll give us the Cutie Mark Crusaders.



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Posted 26 January 2012 - 03:43 AM

Really?

I'd give the "worst off" to Rarity.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 09:53 AM

I don't have any, so I'm very excited.
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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:48 AM

I only got the one's my friend sent me, I'll see if I can bribe someone to take me up there to buy them all.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:29 AM

I didn't get any of the MLP's last time, much to my chagrin. Once I finally got to a McDonald's, they were over... finished.

Just hope these are good ones.

And hoping that Cliffjumper will be part of the Transformers side, if they do Prime.

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Posted 28 January 2012 - 04:46 AM

QUOTE(LBD @ Jan 28 2012, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I didn't get any of the MLP's last time, much to my chagrin. Once I finally got to a McDonald's, they were over... finished.

Just hope these are good ones.

And hoping that Cliffjumper will be part of the Transformers side, if they do Prime.

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:42 PM

I just hope the Bronies won't throw a hissy if Cheerilee included instead of Trixie/Luna/Derpy/Heartstrings/DJ Pon3/etc.

Also hope Cheerilee is included again. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 29 January 2012 - 09:50 PM

It would be ironic if these were reissues but Cheerilee was excluded, and ended up commanding serious money on ebay.
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Posted 30 January 2012 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(Agent X @ Jan 29 2012, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just hope the Bronies won't throw a hissy if Cheerilee included instead of Trixie/Luna/Derpy/Heartstrings/DJ Pon3/etc.

Also hope Cheerilee is included again. icon-hotrod.gif


I personally hope Cheerilee is NOT in the next line up of toys. Why you may ask?

Because we already GOT Cheerilee. Give the spot to some other Background pony. I don't care who, just so there is somepony new.

I mean we can already guess the mane six will be there again. I'd like to see some variety in the toys.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:38 PM

I still wanna see a Big Mac just for the irony.

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:52 PM

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I still wanna see a Big Mac just for the irony.


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Posted 08 February 2012 - 10:16 AM

QUOTE(TM2 Dinobot @ Jan 30 2012, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be ironic if these were reissues but Cheerilee was excluded, and ended up commanding serious money on ebay.


In Hungary, the MLP-FiM Happy Meal toys have been out for a month now. Only the main six have been found so far, and totally randomly. Christopher... erm, Cheeri Lee and Celestia are not on the promo materials even, so they are most likely excluded.

And yeah, they are the same toys as the ones sold in the USA, but they are lacking the cutie mark brooms, erm, combs.

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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Jan 30 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still wanna see a Big Mac just for the irony.

Or Spike. Hey, does anyone here know if past McDonalds Transformers promos have ever included "female" bots? I figure this is as good a place to ask as any.
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Posted 08 February 2012 - 07:53 PM

QUOTE(Pocket @ Feb 8 2012, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Cybersnark @ Jan 30 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I still wanna see a Big Mac just for the irony.

Or Spike. Hey, does anyone here know if past McDonalds Transformers promos have ever included "female" bots? I figure this is as good a place to ask as any.


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Posted 10 February 2012 - 01:57 PM

Well, now we know what we're getting:



Lily Blossom. For some reason they decided some toy-only periwinkle pony was more important than Celestia, Luna OR any of the established background characters.
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Posted 10 February 2012 - 02:12 PM

Well, Lily Blossom is at least a nice looking character.



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