Yes. That IS exactly what I was talking about. And 1986 (Metro and Trypty) and, being generous with the definition of Citybot, 1985 (Omega Supreme). Is there a statute of limitations on nostalgia I'm forgetting? Just cause an era ended long ago doesn't mean ya can't mourn it's passing.
85 to 87 was the era of our classic G1 Citybots (or as you could also call it "the era of all our Citybots" ) and since this is the first time Hasbro has come back to the idea since 87 thats the obvious era to look to for compairison. Yes, things changed in the line/toy world in the years since. No it's not a new thing, but still a change that happened that this release makes me notice and regret.
Okay, that's fine. Saying, "I want to compare this to these other four toys because it's the only other frame of reference I have" is actually pretty fine, if you ask me. It's inaccurate, sure, but it's fine. But what I was responding to was this:
There was a time where really big toys could be new really big characters.
But, okay, fair enough. You're actually being nostalgic for the 'Citybots'. That's fine, really it is. And if your only complaint is, "He's not a new character" or, possibly, "He's not based on one of these 'classic' base-mode Transformers" that's fine too.
The thing I take issue with is the way people see false patterns. In Generation 1 Hasbro and Takara created, between them, a total of at LEAST 36 toys with 'base' modes, not including redecos. They tried different things all the time, from having modes that were literally just ramps, to having toys that could combine to create extensive cities. We had a toy with a freakin' Windmill mode in G1.
Hasbro shouldn't look back at G1 and think, "Fortress Maximus, that's the only city Transformer, we should try and replicate him." That's silly. In G1 the play patterns that resembled Cyberverse the closest were the Action Masters (literally half of which were RECYCLED characters) and the Micromasters. I feel like this new toy seems to have been based around that sort of play pattern, in which case it's looking good so far. From this tiny, blurry picture.
I get that people remember Scorponok, Fortress Maximus, Metroplex and Trypticon -- but that excessively narrow view of your OWN HOBBY frustrates me. I feel like all you're doing is setting yourself up for disappointment. Especially when you're introduced to this toy with a name like, "OPTIMUS MAXIMUS."
Personally my guess is that we'll see this toy is packed with another figure. Possibly Bumblebee -- but my guess would be for an actual Optimus Prime toy -- similarly to the Cyberverse Action Sets. I would be seriously surprised if there wasn't some sort of explanation for this 'giant optimus', that explains WHY he's so huge, if only in the tech specs.
Complaints about character, and scale, seem so crazy to me at this point. Since we don't know the answers to EITHER of those questions.
(Here's the list of toys I could think of with some kind of base mode. Ready? Optimus Prime, Powermaster Optimus Prime, Action Master Optimus Prime, Star Convoy, Omega Supreme, Motormaster, Silverbolt, Onslaught, Hot Spot, Metroplex, Trypticon, Scorponok, Fortress Maximus, Powermaster Megatron, Skyhopper, Skystalker, Countdown, Groundshaker, Ironworks, Erector, Greasepit, Airwave, Hot House, Grandus, Sky Garry, the 3 Micromaster Combiner TRansports, Battlefield Headquarters, Anti-Aircraft Base, Dai Atlus, Sonic Bomber, Roadfire, Axer's Turbo Cycle, The Stratotronic Jet and Overlord.
Rodimus Prime, Ratchet, Ironhide, Scattersot, and the original Megatron all get honourable mentions, too.)