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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.


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#201 Benbot

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:24 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...


The start? I thought we were already on that trend. Well, to be precise, it's everyone-is-Optimus-Prime-or-Bumblebee.

#202 Corgsopal

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...

Well everyone was leader-1 for awhile, so it is Optimus's turn.
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#203 NightViper

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...


Can't stop picturing a TF parody of the plastic surgery episode of the Twilight Zone now...

#204 M Sipher

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:36 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...


The start? I thought we were already on that trend. Well, to be precise, it's everyone-is-Optimus-Prime-or-Bumblebee.

Except for all those guys who aren't.


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#205 Benbot

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...


The start? I thought we were already on that trend. Well, to be precise, it's everyone-is-Optimus-Prime-or-Bumblebee.

Except for all those guys who aren't.


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#206 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I?m not. If someone says it ?looks fun,? I won?t be having it. I?ve found those are both code for ?this is for very little kids.?

RtS Jazz is for little kids?

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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#207 Walky

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:15 PM

I heard Transformers is for little kids.

#208 Rosicrucian

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 05:33 PM

Toys that look fun! Oh noes! Next you'll be suggesting we take them out of the package and transform them! Or fire their little missiles while making "pew pew" noises!

(I miss me some spring-loaded missiles.)

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:03 PM

I'm not seeing Optimus Maximus as Optimus Prime, I'm seeing Nexus Maximus (The Transformer, not the adult toy... okay BOTH Nexus Maximus' are toys for adults, NEVER MIND).





I'm a little saddened by the idea that WFC/Generations Grimlock may be a Deluxe. He needs to be a Voyager minimum.

Edited by mignash, 27 January 2012 - 07:03 PM.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 27 2012, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm a little saddened by the idea that WFC/Generations Grimlock may be a Deluxe. He needs to be a Voyager minimum.

A nice Deluxe Grimlock would be the one bright spot for me if the next iteration of Generations is all-Fall all the time. I never liked the Classics Deluxe, and I don't need another large one since I have the MP version.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:19 PM

I'd definitely prefer a voyager, since that would make him appropriately larger than the average Autobot, but not necessarily huge or anything. Unfortunately, we don't get a lot of voyagers lately, outside of the movie and cartoon lines. I really love the extra room it gives them to play around and do bigger guys justice when both the deluxe and voyager sizes are being used regularly.
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#212 Rosicrucian

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 06:58 PM

But unless I'm mistaken, we still have no indication that Generations is going to expand into other size classes?

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:04 PM

What I don't like about the huge base thingy being an Optimus is that the age of other huge characters is over. Those citybots we already have are all there is. No future ones!

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:20 PM

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What I don't like about the huge base thingy being an Optimus is that the age of other huge characters is over. Those citybots we already have are all there is. No future ones!



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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:22 PM

You know, I'm not a fan of Optimus Prime to begin with. I don't like the character and I usually don't like the toys. This had everything going against it for me, but damned if that image doesn't actually peak my interest significantly. Need more images, but I like what I see so far.

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#216 Rosicrucian

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 08:31 PM

Yeah, even at this postage stamp-sized image, he looks awesomely fiddly.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(M Sipher @ Jan 26 2012, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You don't actually know what that means, do you.

You're right, this is more a case of "Market researched to all hell".

I'm pretty sure everything is market researched to all hell.

What I assume you mean is that Hasbro, entering into new territory (the last guy who specifically turned into a base/playset as his primary altmode in stateside release was Fortress Maximus*, unless you want to count Arachid and Orcanoch) has coupled this baseformer to a popular character to minimize the risk. If you're surprised then I'm not sure what to say.

Hey, there's an idea; they could have made this baseformer a giant character that's "coupled to" a popular one (maybe Optimus Prime could turn into Fortress Maximus's head, or something like that), instead of being a giant version of Optimus Prime. (Assuming that's what this is: it could also be a giant mecha piloted by a normal-sized Optimus Prime.)

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OKay, so they say there are 8 (deluxe) Generations toys, 1 is WFC Jazz. So who would you want to see in the other 7 Deluxe molds?

I'd like to see:

2. WFC Starscream (in the future we can see many Seeker repaints)
3. WFC Ironhide (in the future can be repainted as Ratchet)
4. WFC Shockwave
5. Classic/WFC Arcee (a pink car!)
6. Classic Cosmos
7. Classic Gears (why not?)
8. Classic Blitzwing


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 27 2012, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...


The start? I thought we were already on that trend. Well, to be precise, it's everyone-is-Optimus-Prime-or-Bumblebee.

Except for all those guys who aren't.


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Posted 28 January 2012 - 02:20 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Jan 27 2012, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OKay, so they say there are 8 (deluxe) Generations toys, 1 is WFC Jazz. So who would you want to see in the other 7 Deluxe molds?

I'd like to see:

2. WFC Starscream (in the future we can see many Seeker repaints)
3. WFC Ironhide (in the future can be repainted as Ratchet)
4. WFC Shockwave
5. Classic/WFC Arcee (a pink car!)
6. Classic Cosmos
7. Classic Gears (why not?)
8. Classic Blitzwing

I'd be rather happy with that line up actually, except Gears but I can't think of anyone to replace him at the moment, so like you said why not.

Maybe an Insecticon, and the top on my list is Shockwave, he really should get a new toy and hopefully DotM will help that.



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