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@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:02 PM)

If they were in the G1 continuity (which I doubt would happen), then yes. Otherwise, a reboot would likely be separate from G1 and the current Movieverse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 01:49 PM)

Characters from rebooted movies would most likely get their own pages.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

If Transformers movies ever gets rebooted and if they decide to do more G1ish designs, would TFWiki classify that Movie's Optimus or Megatron as G1 (maybe giving them sub-pages like the one for IDW Optimus) or would they give them their own pages. Just wondering.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 12:53 PM)

Ha. How fitting that Beast Wars: Uprising implicitly repurposed the Star Convoy toy as an actual building called the Star Convoy.

@  Fnu Aw : (20 August 2016 - 10:05 AM)

At least Star Convoy has elbows.

@  Bass X0 : (20 August 2016 - 10:01 AM)

Never owned Star Convoy, but he looks like as much of a brick as the original Powermaster Optimus Prime articulation wise; minus the cab robot,


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#181 Boltax

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:27 AM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Jan 27 2012, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This strikes me as an entirely reasonable statement. Hasbro marketing will unquestionably have input on this, and the prevalance of Bumblebee and Optimus toys in larger size classes in recent years suggests their strategy is indeed that big toys need to either be one of these characters, or allowed because one of these characters is already in the case assortment...

I was hoping they had snuck something a little bit less obviously Optimus like through, but they haven't really.

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Isn't that just how this toyline works? (or Toylines in general?) The largest toys are almost inevitably 'hot seller' characters. Ever since they brought back Optimus Prime as a Power Master it's been this way. Action Master Optimus Prime was the largest Action Masters toy. Laser Optimus Prime was the largest Gen2 toy. Optimus Primal and Megatron, Optimal Optimus, Supreme Cheetor and Supreme Optimus Primal... heck, Omega Optimus Prime...

I understand there are some exceptions, but most of them (like, say, Unicron from Armada) were featured in the media to an insane degree. I think that the reason it's really noticeable with Prime and Bumblebee nowadays is because, well... there's SO MANY toys coming out nowadays. We've never seen anything remotely resembling this volume of toys in the history of the brand.

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#182 ▲ndrusi

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE(The Phazer @ Jan 27 2012, 07:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Bug-Saw @ Jan 27 2012, 04:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 27 2012, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same for the testing comment. They took all of the feedback and jammed it all together, making a jumbled mass rather than a streamlined toy.

That's it, that's exactly what I was getting at. This toy feels like the designers where getting input from multiple sources telling them "Our marketing research shows that if you do so-and-so, the toy will sell better" and stuff like "You need to do this to keep the cost down". And instead of just focusing on making a good toy, they took all the feedback and jammed it altogether because they were too paranoid that the toy wouldn't sell on its own.


This strikes me as an entirely reasonable statement. Hasbro marketing will unquestionably have input on this, and the prevalance of Bumblebee and Optimus toys in larger size classes in recent years suggests their strategy is indeed that big toys need to either be one of these characters, or allowed because one of these characters is already in the case assortment...

I was hoping they had snuck something a little bit less obviously Optimus like through, but they haven't really.

Phazer

You aren't saying the same thing as the statement you said you were agreeing with.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 10:40 AM

I'm surprised no one's made a Star Convoy comparison yet.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 11:08 AM

i at least hope there are some minicon ports on this thing.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:22 PM

Maybe Fort Max came down with a case of Primus apotheosis.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE(RichardX1 @ Jan 27 2012, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm surprised no one's made a Star Convoy comparison yet.


They have.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Jan 27 2012, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe Fort Max came down with a case of Primus apotheosis.


And a wasting disease.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:23 PM

I'm a little surprised that there are people who thought "Optimus Maximus" wasn't going to look like Optimus Prime.

I'm not sure what's going on with his design, although it certainly reminds me of every other large Cyberverse toy we've gotten. I'll be interested to see what his base mode looks like, but I hope it's good, because I like the robot mode and am excited for there to be a new base-bot.

Even if it has to be Optimus Prime this time.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:25 PM

It's not Optimus Prime. It's just the Autobots' Optimus Megazord.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 02:59 PM

Great... You just made me want it more ExVee....


Thanks a lot.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:02 PM

Nah, it's an Autobot base than can look like Optimus Prime.

Tell me that wouldn't freak the hug out of G1 Megs.

"Decepticons, attack! The Autobot base is unprotected!"
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:08 PM

Totally reminds me of the gobots power suit combiner

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:13 PM

If you guys think he's big now, wait 'til you see him with his trailer! icon-fire.gif

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:20 PM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ Jan 27 2012, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nah, it's an Autobot base than can look like Optimus Prime.

Tell me that wouldn't freak the hug out of G1 Megs.

"Decepticons, attack! The Autobot base is unprotected!"
>GIANT MOTHERHUGGING OPTIMUS PRIME STANDS UP<
"What? Optimus Prime? How can this be?! Decepticons retreat!!!"

Heh, you may have just helped sell a few of these with that icon-fire.gif

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:52 PM

I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I?m not. If someone says it ?looks fun,? I won?t be having it. I?ve found those are both code for ?this is for very little kids.?

I think this is the Transformers equivalent of The Homer.
Or Energon Prime v.2.


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Posted 27 January 2012 - 03:56 PM

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I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I?m not. If someone says it ?looks fun,? I won?t be having it. I?ve found those are both code for ?this is for very little kids.?

One must be careful not to buy Transformers toys that are for little kids.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:01 PM

Off the topic of Optimus Maximus:

I really hope we get a FOC Ironhide and Ratchet. I think Hasbro knows how much the Universe mold is hated, and this would be a good chance to give us a replacement for them, especially with the designs being featured in the current IDW comics.

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#198 LV!

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

A WFC Ratchet toy is just going to give me flashbacks to reactivating Omega Supreme.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:10 PM

I hope this is not the start of a disturbing everyone-is-Optimus-Prime trend...

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 04:22 PM

QUOTE(LV! @ Jan 27 2012, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Benbot @ Jan 27 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm getting a lot of red flags here. If Walky likes it, I?m not. If someone says it ?looks fun,? I won?t be having it. I?ve found those are both code for ?this is for very little kids.?

One must be careful not to buy Transformers toys that are for little kids.


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