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@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (26 September 2016 - 10:14 AM)

@TheMightyMollusk WWE Raw is on tonight. By the third hour, it'll probably feel the same, minus the actual physical trauma.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 09:51 AM)

I think I'd rather punch myself in the nuts.

@  Dracula : (26 September 2016 - 09:34 AM)

I think I'll watch Godzilla versus Gigan instead

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 09:32 AM)

Hillary versus Trump tonight. Oh boy.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 September 2016 - 06:53 AM)

I think I'm just too used to metal to not understand the lyrics.

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 06:02 AM)

it's a vile interruption, chess the scripture way

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 03:49 AM)

I've had versions where the issue doesn't come up (or at least doesn't come up in the part I notice the most), but the version that got remastered for Bluray and DVD releases have it.

@  Nevermore : (26 September 2016 - 02:05 AM)

I initially misheard "flying tools of torment" as "we're flyin' into some torment".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (26 September 2016 - 01:08 AM)

If it's a problem with all released versions, maybe the original audio source was itself damaged?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

I wish they'd relase a remastered version that fixed the audio and included at least had an option to have the text crawl rather than the credits at the start.

@  Telly : (25 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

tryin to buy the movie from amazon for $20-ish. the price of it has been fluctuating like crazy. not a day has gone by that it hasnt dropped to one price and then gone back up a few hours later. never seen a price fluctuate so much

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:57 PM)

Then again, a lot of versions of the movie had pretty bad sound quality, even the most recent blu-rays mess it up in places, so it's not as much our fault if we misheard stuff.

@  Arazyr : (25 September 2016 - 07:28 PM)

When I first heard it, half of it may as well have been in a foreign language, for all I could make out. (Of course, I can say that about most music...)

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 07:14 PM)

I can't remember entirely, and I can't "hear" anything but the actual lyrics now, but I remember "I am born to hurt you, I'll break the boundless sky" as how my brain parsed the first words.

@  Nevermore : (25 September 2016 - 07:01 PM)

So what did you hear?

@  Pennpenn : (25 September 2016 - 06:39 PM)

I almost completely misinterpreted the lyrics for that song for ages, and when I did find out what they were I thought my idea of the lyrics was better.


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#121 Dante

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Magnusblitz @ Feb 2 2012, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's very interesting thinking about the military/civilian breakdown between the Autobots (and 'Cons) vs the Nails. Never having been in the military myself, it's usually much easier to identify with the civilians, but here we identify with the military because the Autobots are the characters we know and love and the Nails are, for the most part, a bunch of random guys in the background.

Eh. Even from a neutral perspective, the NAILs need an attitude adjustment. They come across to me as the spoiled, rich descendents of a Russian Jewish family that fled the Cossacks and moved to New England in the late 19th century, returning to Israel in 1946 and cursing out the Holocaust survivors because they had to put up with rationing and the draft during WWII. You wanna deal with the Naz-- uh, I mean the Decepticons? Yeah, they're your problem now, bungholes.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:02 PM

Perhaps even more on point, there's a large Cuban population in Florida. Some of them believe that, when Castro dies and the Communist government of Cuba falls, they will be allowed to go back and claim the land and homes they abandoned decades ago by fleeing to America. One can see their point, but the people who have been living in those homes for the past generation or so might have something to say about it, too.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:24 AM

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Terri-Bull.


Horri-Bull's brother, who wants REVENGE!

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 1 2012, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Terri-Bull.


Horri-Bull's brother, who wants REVENGE!


Actually, it should probably be his sister. icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 05 February 2012 - 01:41 PM

Nah, their sister would be Deplora-Bull. Don't you read Sluggy Freelance? icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:42 AM

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QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Feb 1 2012, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Terri-Bull.


Horri-Bull's brother, who wants REVENGE!


Actually, it should probably be his sister. icon-hotrod.gif


Someone needs to draw that. So that finally Strika will have someone to hang out with! icon-fire.gif

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Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE(Servitor 2152 @ Jan 23 2012, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm kind of sad that these ones aren't as humorous as the MtMtE teaser images were.

In retrospect that makes sense, now that we know the difference in tone between the two series.

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 24 2012, 05:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow, Metalhawk comes of as a lot more of a jerk there than in DoOP. I mean you got the impression there that he was positioning himself politically but it was an undercurrent beneath someone who seemed to care about the situation. Here he just seems to be flat out undermining Bumblebee in a pretty obvious dickish way to take authority.

Agreed that he's taking a harder line regarding Bumblebee, but I'm not sure it's due to power-lust. This could just be the evolution of his honest opinion.

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Lastly, while I can see the sense in putting the Decepticons to work as "Police" to keep them busy I think it would make more sense to make sure every group of them was working with an Autobot overseer. It just seems like you're asking for this sort of trouble if you let them keep the peace under their own reconnaissance.

I had that thought too. Really, empowering Decepticons with any kind of authoritative role was just a terrible idea from the beginning. When they desperately needed the manpower to quell an uprising, it made brief sense, but that should've been the end of it. Then again, maybe manpower is still a desperate problem? It's not hard to believe that, but I feel like Barber isn't giving us quite enough foundational information to really understand the situation.

QUOTE(Black~Mesa @ Jan 24 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am really loving how different they all look, thus allowing for multiple design styles to come into play, like the more "gundam" style guys, boxy g1 guys, transtech, and even beast wars type characters as well.

Years ago, M Sipher told me about a story idea he and Trent were cooking up set on post-BM Cybertron, with the planet being mostly wilderness and the population being a mix of all types of TF. I always dug that idea, so I'm happy to see a variation on it finally playing out (with less green, but still).

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Thundercracker was revealed to have been summoned back to Cybertron or could he still be on earth? I wanna say somewhere on Cybertron because even Drift was being afflicted when all the Decepticons were being brainwashed.

I don't think he was specifically seen on Cybertron, but for narrative reasons I prefer to believe that there are no TFs left on Earth. There are enough other variables at play in the current setup.

QUOTE(Cat @ Jan 25 2012, 08:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It reminded me strongly of Battlestar Galactica, and I'm really intrigued at the politics.

I've definitely gotten that vibe too, and it makes me wary. (I loved Galactica at first but grew to hate it by the third season.) While I could give a laundry list of plot points I was dissatisfied with in that show, what really killed me was the relentlessly serious, grim, personal-conflict-heavy drama that was almost never broken with an ounce of levity or genial comradery. I think RiD's tone is in danger of going down that path, especially compared to MtMtE. Of course only time will tell, and I'm not condemning it out of hand, but the thought will be in my head as I read it.

QUOTE(Dante @ Feb 4 2012, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Eh. Even from a neutral perspective, the NAILs need an attitude adjustment. They come across to me as the spoiled, rich descendents of a Russian Jewish family that fled the Cossacks and moved to New England in the late 19th century, returning to Israel in 1946 and cursing out the Holocaust survivors because they had to put up with rationing and the draft during WWII. You wanna deal with the Naz-- uh, I mean the Decepticons? Yeah, they're your problem now, bungholes.

That's... an oddly specific and charged example. Is that a thing that actually happened in Israel?

Anyway, I think it's difficult to find a good real-world example to compare this situation to. I can't think of a time when there's been a massive return to an ancestral homeland by immigrants who hated all of the contemporary inhabitants and blamed them universally for their original dispersal. Usually, non-war reclaim-the-homeland movements require the support of a seed group in the established population.