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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just


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#1 OrionPax44

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:00 PM

You wouldn't believe it but I bought a Sonicron at a really good discounted price and all his joints were tight and he stood up really well ;p :lol:

Nah he was just as I expected; loose hips and all. But I do really like this design and felt bad for the poor little guy so I did what I was joking about and made him a crutch. Yup a crutch and you know what it really helps :lol:

So I now give to you Tiny Wave:




Then my wife who thought the idea was hilarious gave me this Idea

As Tiny Wave says "Primus Bless us everyone"



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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:04 PM

In the first image, it looks like someone is making a Valentine's Day card for him. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Jan 19 2012, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the first image, it looks like someone is making a Valentine's Day card for him. icon-fire.gif


icon-fire.gif Thats my wife making animal masks for my boys movie we were making. She was clear for all the other shots I took and this one ended up being the best one. Go figure.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:16 PM

I honestly expected this to be about an actual third-party (fourth-party?) upgrade for Sonicron that gave him a bunch of add-on missile boxes for no good reason or something.

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 02:30 PM

QUOTE(▲ndrusi @ Jan 19 2012, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly expected this to be about an actual third-party (fourth-party?) upgrade for Sonicron that gave him a bunch of add-on missile boxes for no good reason or something.


Nah this is an upgrade that he really needs.

I did hear about the black version of him and supposedly all the quality issues are resolved.
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:05 PM

I just fixed the loose hips on my Sonicron. I pulled him off the shelf to apply a faction sticker to his chest, and when I went to put him back he wouldn't stand properly without having to tip his torso back slightly. Otherwise his torso would fall forward. So I pulled apart the hips and went to work.

It's pretty easy, really. Dissassemble each hip by just a single screw on the back of each. You'll have a front part that has the FF or Rewind triangle on it, there's a half circle for the hip joint to channel through this part. The back part is a completely flat piece.

I applied a thin coating of super glue(don't have any nail polish) to the inside of the half-circle because that's where the friction is needed, let it harden, then put the hips back together. Viola! Also did something similar to the upper right arm swivel which was also much too loose.

I wish I could figure out what to do about the left leg when going to alt mode. I can never get the lateral part of the leg to collapse completely and hold, so there's always a slight gap when viewing that section from above. I know what part is the culprit, but I can't figure out what part of it I need to shave or add to.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:13 PM


In the alt mode I know what you mean my legs don't collapse flush either but close enough. My biggest issue was the left arm and leg slots needed some trimminging. but after that it went together nicely and I really cant stop playing with him. I wanna make his crutch collapsable so maybe it will fit in his chest icon-fire.gif
If I get brave enough I may take his legs apart but till then I am very happing with him

Thanks for the tips
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:30 PM

Personally, I would recommend an outline symbol from Reprolabels. True, the downside is that you need to buy $20 worth of stuff, in order to get them, but it looked the best of the stickers I've tried.

Admittedly, I thought this was going to be a post about Tremor & Frequency. Since both are out now.

Edited by Kevin S, 19 January 2012 - 05:33 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:37 PM

Tremor and Frequency really dont do anything for me. Now the Ratbat and Ravage ones if they release them for me are a deff buy

I kinda feel bad bout everybody getting misled by the name but so Im gonna change it
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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:43 PM

QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Jan 19 2012, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish I could figure out what to do about the left leg when going to alt mode. I can never get the lateral part of the leg to collapse completely and hold, so there's always a slight gap when viewing that section from above. I know what part is the culprit, but I can't figure out what part of it I need to shave or add to.


Just by off hand chance, you know about that the heels have to be rotated inward, in the transformation? As I recall, that part isn't in the included instructions (too lazy to go looking), but until I figured this out, I had the same problem.

(Just had time to check instructions, confirmed that heel rotation isn't depicted.)

Kevin

Edited by Kevin S, 19 January 2012 - 05:59 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 05:53 PM

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jan 19 2012, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In the alt mode I know what you mean my legs don't collapse flush either but close enough. My biggest issue was the left arm and leg slots needed some trimminging. but after that it went together nicely and I really cant stop playing with him. I wanna make his crutch collapsable so maybe it will fit in his chest icon-fire.gif
If I get brave enough I may take his legs apart but till then I am very happing with him

Thanks for the tips

I had to trim the left arm pegs a bit so they'd slide properly into the slots on the torso when going to alt mode too.

There's no screws holding the lateral leg panels in place. They pop off pretty easy, just don't force it. If you remove the speakers on the legs, you'll see the two slats(?) that are holding the lateral leg panel on. One's towards the front of the leg, the other towards the back. The problem slat(on mine at least) is the one towards the front of the leg. It's an interesting system they have, which I assume only works when the part is perfectly molded, which on my left leg it clearly is not.

And I'll doubly recommend Kevin S's outline symbol suggestion. icon-ironhide.gif Although being that the inside of the tape deck is silver, I'm having trouble taking a good pic that really shows it off.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Jan 19 2012, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Jan 19 2012, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish I could figure out what to do about the left leg when going to alt mode. I can never get the lateral part of the leg to collapse completely and hold, so there's always a slight gap when viewing that section from above. I know what part is the culprit, but I can't figure out what part of it I need to shave or add to.


Just by off hand chance, you know about that the heels have to be rotated inward, in the transformation? As I recall, that part isn't in the included instructions (too lazy to go looking), but until I figured this out, I had the same problem.

Kevin

It's not the heels. The heels are part of what helps the leg panels pop out and lock in place making for the fuller leg in bot mode. My problem is when going to alt mode. Like I said, I know the exact piece that's the problem The right leg has no problem. It's just that one slat and notch system on the left front leg.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Jan 19 2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I'll doubly recommend Kevin S's outline symbol suggestion. icon-ironhide.gif Although being that the inside of the tape deck is silver, I'm having trouble taking a good pic that really shows it off.


Yeah, looks great in person, but refuses to appear in photos.

Thus far, this is the best photo I've managed & it doesn't convey what the thing looks like in person. Maybe I just need a better camera.

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Edited by Kevin S, 19 January 2012 - 06:32 PM.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:11 PM

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 07:18 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Jan 19 2012, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Jan 19 2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I'll doubly recommend Kevin S's outline symbol suggestion. icon-ironhide.gif Although being that the inside of the tape deck is silver, I'm having trouble taking a good pic that really shows it off.


Yeah, looks great in person, but refuses to appear in photos.

Thus far, this is the best photo I've managed & it doesn't convey what the thing looks like in person. Maybe I just need a better camera.

best_copy.jpg

Better than my attempt, but like you said, doesn't give the same fantastic impression when you see it in person.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:54 PM

Nicely done, and very amusing icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 20 January 2012 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Jan 19 2012, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Alpha Omega Trion Supreme @ Jan 19 2012, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wish I could figure out what to do about the left leg when going to alt mode. I can never get the lateral part of the leg to collapse completely and hold, so there's always a slight gap when viewing that section from above. I know what part is the culprit, but I can't figure out what part of it I need to shave or add to.


Just by off hand chance, you know about that the heels have to be rotated inward, in the transformation? As I recall, that part isn't in the included instructions (too lazy to go looking), but until I figured this out, I had the same problem.

(Just had time to check instructions, confirmed that heel rotation isn't depicted.)

Kevin


I took the legs apart last night and trimmed the square cage that has the the locking tabs. When I put him back together everything lined up so much better and when in alt mode the gap is gone. You don't have to take much off just a little.
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