Jump to content


Entertainment Earth


Toggle shoutbox Squawkbox Open the Shoutbox in a popup

Please don't post Youtube videos in the chat box. The forums software auto embeds them. 

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:02 PM)

If they were in the G1 continuity (which I doubt would happen), then yes. Otherwise, a reboot would likely be separate from G1 and the current Movieverse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 01:49 PM)

Characters from rebooted movies would most likely get their own pages.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

If Transformers movies ever gets rebooted and if they decide to do more G1ish designs, would TFWiki classify that Movie's Optimus or Megatron as G1 (maybe giving them sub-pages like the one for IDW Optimus) or would they give them their own pages. Just wondering.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 12:53 PM)

Ha. How fitting that Beast Wars: Uprising implicitly repurposed the Star Convoy toy as an actual building called the Star Convoy.

@  Fnu Aw : (20 August 2016 - 10:05 AM)

At least Star Convoy has elbows.

@  Bass X0 : (20 August 2016 - 10:01 AM)

Never owned Star Convoy, but he looks like as much of a brick as the original Powermaster Optimus Prime articulation wise; minus the cab robot,


Photo

Rumor: No Third Party Figure Sales at BotCon?


330 replies to this topic

#81 Terrortron

Terrortron
  • Citizen
  • 390 posts
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:27 AM

Aw, there were a few kinda rare crappy bootlegs I was gonna keep an eye out for icon-screamer.gif
Needed: Missile for Movie 1 Jolt

#82 xZAOx

xZAOx

    ALL HAIL GALVACRON

  • Citizen
  • 5472 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Nashville, TN

Posted 30 January 2012 - 12:41 PM

QUOTE(Terrortron @ Jan 30 2012, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Aw, there were a few kinda rare crappy bootlegs I was gonna keep an eye out for icon-screamer.gif


Yeah, I have some friends that collect rare / "original" bootlegs too, they'll be bummed out.

I got the wacky Stunticon bootleg last year, it's awesome. Some refer to it as "G2 Menasor".

#83 MrBlud

MrBlud

    Goes down smooth...

  • Staff
  • 49758 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Westlake, OH
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:26 PM

Doesn't BBTS never show up for the "far" (Texas, Calif, etc) Botcons anyway?

tease-sig.jpg


#84 Robowang

Robowang

    Predacon Oyster

  • Supporter
  • 2281 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Your fantasies
  • Faction::Predacon

Posted 30 January 2012 - 03:57 PM

Yeah, it costs them too much to haul that stuff cross country.

#85 Lukeblast

Lukeblast
  • Staff
  • 14374 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The Blasty Zone
  • Faction::Cannonball's Pirate Crew

Posted 31 January 2012 - 08:11 AM

QUOTE(xZAOx @ Jan 30 2012, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And now some horrible, horrible lawyer-speak in there that says "We can steal jive off your table if we feel like it".

icon-primal.gif That's clearly not the spirit or the intent. Let's stop with that sort of nonsense exaggeration.

#86 Big Show

Big Show

    Had about enough of your crap, Mario.

  • Supporter
  • 7460 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Waldorf, MD
  • Faction::Decepticon

Posted 01 February 2012 - 07:48 AM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Jan 31 2012, 08:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(xZAOx @ Jan 30 2012, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And now some horrible, horrible lawyer-speak in there that says "We can steal jive off your table if we feel like it".

icon-primal.gif That's clearly not the spirit or the intent. Let's stop with that sort of nonsense exaggeration.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
QUOTE(David Willis)
There's a distinct difference between buying something and SUPERbuying.
And SUPERbuying is not quite as extreme as buying the HUG outta something.
There's a hierarchy.
 

#87 Agent Adam

Agent Adam
  • Protoform
  • 23 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Plano/Allen, Tx

Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Jan 30 2012, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Doesn't BBTS never show up for the "far" (Texas, Calif, etc) Botcons anyway?


They were at the '05 show in Texas.

#88 NightViper

NightViper

    Ehhhhh...

  • Retired Staff
  • 37197 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Faction::RIBFIR

Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:18 PM

I believe the decision was made more like 2009.

#89 Agent Adam

Agent Adam
  • Protoform
  • 23 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Plano/Allen, Tx

Posted 01 February 2012 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Feb 1 2012, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe the decision was made more like 2009.


I know, but he said "never." icon-hotrod.gif

#90 Spark

Spark
  • Citizen
  • 32721 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:16 PM

On the topic at hand, I'm not the least bit surprised. I mean, who didn't think it was ballsy to see loads of full 3rd party figures at the Con last year when it's Hasbro's own convention?
Fall of Cybertron will blow your mind. That is all.

#91 Esser-Z

Esser-Z

    I'm never going down at the hands of the likes of you

  • Citizen
  • 32940 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Findlay, OH.
  • Faction::Free Agent

Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:26 PM

Seriously. That was crazy.

#92 Pyre

Pyre

    Atomic batteries to power, turbines to speed!

  • Citizen
  • 5158 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 05 February 2012 - 09:01 PM

Anyone who didn't see this coming is living in a fantasy land. Common sense should tell you what is and isn't ok to sell at a Hasbro convention. The add-on stuff like weapons and heads is likely to not be an issue as you need Hasbro product for any of that to be useful. Original figures that have no connection to Hasbro IP is the same. Old bootlegs of product that Hasbro no longer sells such as the previously mentioned white Cyclonus are probably ok too. FanProject's Hercules and the like? No way. I don't think they'll crack down on custom figures either as Hasbro made their money off that already and any additional profit to the seller is more for the time and effort put into it than trying to make money off of Hasbro's IP.

#93 Buster Darkwings

Buster Darkwings
  • Citizen
  • 3410 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Tokyo

Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:32 AM

Has this already been upgraded from "rumor" to "official" now or something? Not that it affects me, but if it wasn't for this thread, I would've assumed that the sentence "items that infringe on any third party rights" just referred to stuff like the overpriced bootleg VHS tapes that used to be sold by one (now banned, I assume) overpriced dealer at BotCon.

If FP/Hasbro was really banning 3rd party stuff, I'd assume they would be more specific about it and make a bigger deal about it, rather than hiding it in a huge wall of text.

#94 Hot Rod

Hot Rod

    Watch My Smoke!

  • Citizen
  • 157 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:CT
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:56 PM

I'm hoping to still see some vintage style KO's there, as well as Gobots & other competitor lines from the 80's. I understand if the Igear, maketoys, etc. stuff is not permissible, but I hope the wacky 80's stuff or modern g1 boots still are... icon-bee.gif

#95 Autobus Prime

Autobus Prime

    Thank you for choosing Ponyville Trailways!

  • Citizen
  • 5698 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:The shores of Lake Eerie
  • Faction::Maximal

Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:33 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Jan 19 2012, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a rule I don't find credible anyone who both claims to be an inside source and also mocks those who dare not believe him.


CW:

TCracker's cool, he's just got a quirky sense of humour and likes to play the Doctor Evil angle. Surely you're not averse to a little good-natured mockery?






#96 Asquian

Asquian
  • Supporter
  • 21605 posts
  • Faction::Autobot

Posted 14 March 2012 - 03:22 PM

This is probably obvious, but I'm kind of trying to parse what would or wouldn't fly.

Obvious things that would be out would be Warbot Defender. Presumably Protector armor and Commander armor.
What about Battle Tanker? That would certainly be more along the lines of aftermarket...oh, wait, comes with a head that likely infringes, that's out.
Weapon packs should probably be OK?

I don't have an issue with the whole preventing IP infringing products at Botcon, but there are some, I guess aftermarket, add ons that don't infringe. I kinda hope those wouldn't be an issue.

Admittedly, I can't afford to attend a Botcon until it comes back to the midwest again, but if/should that happen, I wouldn't mind being able to buy add on kits for existing figures if they don't infringe IP.

although that too raises some questions. The general shape of G1 Prime's gun is iconic, so for example(and old one), Alternators/BT Prime/Convoy had a gascan that transforms into a pretty good facsimile, so would that be out too, presumably?

I suppose to be safe any vendor would just want to eschew any 3rd party products altogether.

#97 Chris McFeely

Chris McFeely

    That was then, this is now.

  • Citizen
  • 7928 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:59 AM

Well, seems like this has been confirmed.

#98 Walky

Walky

    STRONG GRUDGE

  • Citizen
  • 35279 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Columbus, OH
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:26 PM

Also confirmed: the part about TFW2005 being embarrassing.

#99 Fishbug

Fishbug

    toot toot

  • Citizen
  • 11083 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Galveston, TX
  • Faction::Predacon

Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:37 PM

Was that ever in question?
25aputg.jpg
#WHERESINJECTOR

#100 ZacWilliam1

ZacWilliam1
  • Citizen
  • 13796 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ct. USA
  • Faction::RIRFIB

Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:43 PM

QUOTE(Fishbug @ Mar 15 2012, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Was that ever in question?


Not any more if it ever was. Blech, I spent way too much time today in that thread trying to reason with idiots or spread actual logic, facts and (un)common sense and I actually feel kinda soiled now.

I know, I know, I shouldn't have wasted my time, but I just find willful ignorance, illogic and entitlement so damn offensive I couldn't help myself. icon-waspy.gif


-ZacWilliam, which is why I should probably spend less time online in general probably...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 15 March 2012 - 04:44 PM.

Ever wonder about the speed of Turbofoxes?
Or the proverbial ailerons of Titanium Moosebots?

*Visit the one and only Cybertronic Bestiary.
For a mechazoologic tour of the mechanimals of Cybertron.




Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users