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@  Plokatron : (26 May 2016 - 10:35 PM)

Been wondering and I'm probly being a complete slag brain and not notice whats in front of me. But does IDW have subscriptions available on their site? I'm thinking of signing up for monthly comics and Transformers is da one.

@  unluckiness : (26 May 2016 - 09:01 PM)

No idea, but I'd guess it'd be some in-studio job otherwise, given the obssessiveness nerds can have over about 50 years, we'd know by now.

@  Telly : (26 May 2016 - 08:54 PM)

does anyone know how did the "animation" for the 1960s batman show? been wondering for years and i cant find an answer anywhere. looks to me like either jack kirby or john romita

@  Dracula : (26 May 2016 - 03:36 PM)

YEAH GOT MY ORDER NOTICE TOO

@  Dracula : (26 May 2016 - 02:38 PM)

Sweet. Been hyped for this toy since I heard about it last year...mine is coming from HLJ

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 May 2016 - 11:34 AM)

Big Bad Toy Store.

@  Dracula : (26 May 2016 - 11:32 AM)

AW YES DIA BATTLES. What site did you order from

@  PlutoniumBoss : (26 May 2016 - 11:06 AM)

I got my 10 day email for Dia Battles. GET. HYPE.

@  Lazy Garou : (26 May 2016 - 11:05 AM)

right now to avoid spoilers and such you have to basically leave the planet.

@  Lazy Garou : (26 May 2016 - 11:04 AM)

it's the first thing you see on facebook once you turn on the laptop.

@  Lazy Garou : (26 May 2016 - 11:03 AM)

by now it's everywhere on the internet, with big bold letters in every social network and forum.

@  TriBlurr : (26 May 2016 - 10:42 AM)

I like cheese

@  Pennpenn : (26 May 2016 - 09:39 AM)

They apparently did it for "shock value", despite it not being particularly shocking or having value.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 May 2016 - 09:39 AM)

Wow, way to spoil it for people.

@  Lazy Garou : (26 May 2016 - 09:03 AM)

Captain America Hidra Agent all this time? Bleugh, sounds like something DC would do.

@  Plokatron : (25 May 2016 - 10:25 PM)

@MEDdMI Number 1 super bot.

@  Msol : (25 May 2016 - 09:08 PM)

Oh man I just got Bruticus for $95 Canadian. I want to publicly sing Predahawk's praises for being a cool dude.

@  MEDdMI : (25 May 2016 - 08:46 PM)

Hong Kong Phooey

@  Liege : (25 May 2016 - 08:35 PM)

Phtooey *ding*

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 May 2016 - 05:30 PM)

Spitoon?

@  Evil Zoe : (25 May 2016 - 04:26 PM)

SWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 May 2016 - 04:25 PM)

SPLATOOOOOOOOON!

@  Evil Zoe : (25 May 2016 - 04:24 PM)

SPOOOOOOOOON!

@  tffan01 : (25 May 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Most of his latest thread got closed because he asks the same questions over and over again.

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2016 - 04:12 PM)

why is he going to get banned?

@  tffan01 : (25 May 2016 - 04:09 PM)

I hope not tho

@  tffan01 : (25 May 2016 - 04:09 PM)

beetleman's going to get himself banned

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2016 - 03:53 PM)

In soviet russia, sailor fuku

@  ShadowMan024 : (25 May 2016 - 03:19 PM)

"This is Unicorn! The Earth will soon be a part of me!"

@  Bass X0 : (25 May 2016 - 03:09 PM)

Spaceship Batman!

@  ShadowMan024 : (25 May 2016 - 02:44 PM)

Spaceship Bruce!

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 May 2016 - 01:35 PM)

Oh, Fortress Maximus!

@  ShadowMan024 : (25 May 2016 - 12:25 PM)

Crazy Engrish Fun Man?

@  Foffy the Sheep : (25 May 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Did somebody mention Violen Jiger?

@  Robowang : (25 May 2016 - 07:41 AM)

Violent Butt Juggalos - coming next month!

@  Msol : (25 May 2016 - 02:56 AM)

Well that's certainly cryptic.

@  beetleman : (24 May 2016 - 10:27 PM)

vbjjune

@  TriBlurr : (24 May 2016 - 10:14 PM)

I like Taco Bell. But I only get to have it maybe once a decade since there are no Taco bell locations here in Newfoundland

@  Foffy the Sheep : (24 May 2016 - 08:53 PM)

I think he was in my liver, actually.

@  Locoman : (24 May 2016 - 08:45 PM)

Brian Kilby was in our hearts the whole time.

@  Echowarrior : (24 May 2016 - 08:05 PM)

I'm definitely not Brian Kilby.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 May 2016 - 06:04 PM)

Taco Bell has proven to me that god is truly dead.

@  Paladin : (24 May 2016 - 12:21 PM)

http://uproxx.com/life/taco-bell-fried-chicken-shell/ i hate this & also want to eat this.

@  Benbot : (24 May 2016 - 11:11 AM)

I'm familiar with him but I still don't get the joke.

@  Robowang : (24 May 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Aw, you ruined it.

@  tffan01 : (24 May 2016 - 07:58 AM)

@robowang, I would have laughed at the joke if I knew who is Brian Kilby

@  Benbot : (24 May 2016 - 07:48 AM)

Everyone quickly say something so it scrolls down

@  Robowang : (24 May 2016 - 07:48 AM)

I love this board. I'm still convinced you're all Brian Kilby.

@  tffan01 : (24 May 2016 - 07:47 AM)

beetleman, if you read this I'm not saying this as a fact, it's just a thought.

@  Robowang : (24 May 2016 - 07:42 AM)

*Beetleman logs on and reads this*


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#321 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Classics Sideswipe looks far more like a Lamborghini then say Defender looks like Springer.

At least to my eyes.

But it's not an actual car (Walky's point).

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:36 PM

How does that factor in with something(s) like Springer that doesn't exist?

Both are still supposed to be "evocative" of something but without crossing the line enough to be sued.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:10 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How does that factor in with something(s) like Springer that doesn't exist?

I'm not sure I understand the question. Springer exists... There have been a few different Springer toys by now, in fact.



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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:59 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Apr 11 2012, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Classics Sideswipe looks far more like a Lamborghini then say Defender looks like Springer.

At least to my eyes.


Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common. Now, Hercules, on the other hand...

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common.


I dunno, that's a lot of things to get past.

Especially with how Transformer aesthetics change from medium to medium, color, alt mode, and faces are pretty much the main things by which to identify character design.
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:08 PM

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I'm not sure I understand the question. Springer exists... There have been a few different Springer toys by now, in fact.


Which Defender doesn't match all that closely.

I was just contrasting *that* to Sideswipe not being a stock Lamborghini.

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Now, Hercules, on the other hand...


Well yes, him and Giant are rather blatant.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 11 2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be a better comparison to third party product if Hasbro were selling actual cars that looked like Porsches or Lamborghinis.

I think this VERY BIG POINT needs to be repeated.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE(M Sipher @ Apr 12 2012, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Apr 11 2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it would be a better comparison to third party product if Hasbro were selling actual cars that looked like Porsches or Lamborghinis.

I think this VERY BIG POINT needs to be repeated.

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So you're saying Lamborghini don't licence their car likenesses for models, and any toy as much in the likeness of a Lamborghini as (say) Warbot resembles Springer's animation model doesn't infringe those rights?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE(Sean Whitmore @ Apr 11 2012, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Defender is one of the least infringing of the third party bots, so not a good example. Besides the fact that he is green, has a copter and car mode, and has a vaguely similar head, they don't share much in common.


I dunno, that's a lot of things to get past.

Especially with how Transformer aesthetics change from medium to medium, color, alt mode, and faces are pretty much the main things by which to identify character design.

Yeah, but choice of alt mode is just an idea, not concrete enough to be protected by Copyright. And Transformers heads are so similar and derivative anyway, minor alterations are enough to distinguish them from one another. Like, if I put Defender's head on a totally random robot body, would you say, "That's Spinger's head!", assuming you had never heard of or seen Defender?

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:50 PM

Car designs are different. They're protected by design patents, not Copyright. Things with utility like cars, TVs, washing machines, etc. do not get as much protection as things that are purely entertainment, like stories, characters, art, music, etc.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Apr 11 2012, 03:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most third party TF products infringe Copyright, because they look like and are intended to be substitutes for Hasbro's Transformers characters. There's a reason companies don't go around making toys that look suspiciously like Mickey Mouse. Similarly, you can't just go around making toys that look suspiciously like Devastator, Ultra Magnus, etc.

What you can argue is that they're more of an "homage" than an outright use/theft of the character, but in my opinion, only a very small number of third party products fall into that category.

So, yes, they are by and large illegal.

Even the "homage" argument can fail, right? I mean, the people who made the Hercules combiner clearly intended for buyers to pretend that it is Devastator, and not just something that looks suspiciously alike.

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