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@  Cabooceratops : (13 February 2016 - 11:45 PM)

Decepticons, Transform and Rise Up!

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 08:04 PM)

I'm actually rather fond of the phrase "You are being decieved," to be honest.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 08:03 PM)

"You are being decieved."

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:57 PM)

"Hope is not real"- Scourge, from IDW comic Autobots Wage Their Battle

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:50 PM)

We can only hope.

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:46 PM)

Also the Season 2 Trailer makes me hopeful for Clampdown getting more toys since he seems to be one of the blessed escapees

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:20 PM)

I had been hoping we'd get a good Windblade toy, and RID delivered this time.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:20 PM)

Yeah, RID Windblade is basically a gigantic slap in the face to the people who think RID could NEVER be anywhere near as good as "collector's" lines like Generations.

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:13 PM)

Bisk is fun, but I'm more excited about Strongarm's fishgun, Scorponok with a different transformation for once and a Windblade that can stand up

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 06:43 PM)

One-steps are pretty much the most fun thing ever. It's kind of addicting to just shift from one mode to another over and over again.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 06:41 PM)

That makes him even better than a Warrior.

@  Cabooceratops : (13 February 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Bisk is a 1-Step

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 04:38 PM)

I hope Bisk is either a Legends or he's less messed up than he looks.

@  Plokatron : (13 February 2016 - 01:53 PM)

@Rycochet He is indeed voiced by Wierd Al. He is also a awesome brother. :D

@  Rycochet : (13 February 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Polkatron dares to be stupid and is voiced by A. Yankovic.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 February 2016 - 07:07 AM)

He got all the musical talent in the family.

@  BillBarclay : (13 February 2016 - 05:59 AM)

Polkatron? is he Plokatron's spotty brother?

@  BillBarclay : (13 February 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Polkatron? is he Ploj

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 11:21 PM)

@Cabooceratops So was what I said. :D

@  Cabooceratops : (12 February 2016 - 09:10 PM)

It's called a joke, Polkatron, you may have heard of the concept?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 08:06 PM)

@Nutjob R/T @TheMightyMollusk Yesh are you Baybots thinking so litteral?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 02:41 PM)

Optimus makes a lousy helmet.

@  Nutjob R/T : (12 February 2016 - 02:11 PM)

Wait when did Optimus Prime fly off the top of your head?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 01:55 PM)

@Paladin @TheMightyMollusk @NotVeryKnightly Dumb dumb dumb on Hasbros part. Optimus flew withing the first three episodes of the G1 cartoon. No not the glide flight thing that only Deceps uses after that I mean the jetpack part. Plus I can site four other times he flew off the top of my head.

@  Boomhauer : (12 February 2016 - 12:45 PM)

Optimus already got to fly in RID's Season finale, though one could argue he was just falling with style instead of flying properly.

@  Rycochet : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

The Unicron Trilogy had awful shows but some really neat toys even if it did get off to a shaky start with some of the unnecessarily flawed Armada stuff.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

Didn't he fly in Beast Hunters?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 11:58 AM)

What about Animated?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:55 AM)

Someone who never saw the Unicron Trilogy. God do I envy them....

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 11:49 AM)

...Hasbro's billing that new "Power Surge Optimus Prime" as "the first time Optimus takes flight." who thought THAT sounded right....

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:34 AM)

More likely, they'll all follow the same visual style to retain brand coherency. The most you could hope for is better writing, but don't hold your breath.

@  Dracula : (12 February 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Cool. Bay can't possibly direct all of those. Maybe we'll get someone else's vision of what a TF movie could look like.

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 10:14 AM)

ugh. we're apparently getting 1 TF film A YEAR starting 2017. and Bumblebee gets a spinoff film...

@  Plokatron : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 PM)

Guess no one has the comic then. Blast I need that close up of Ironhide's helmet!

@  Arazyr : (11 February 2016 - 01:41 PM)

Happy Birthday, young'un. 8^)

@  D Buster Prime : (11 February 2016 - 01:21 PM)

It's my BIRTHDAY! I'm 35 years young!

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 10:54 AM)

nah! it's Venus that's going to Botcon!

@  Paladin : (11 February 2016 - 10:45 AM)

could've also meant Cree Summer...

@  Dracula : (11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM)

Good going, Blackarachnia. I heard it's been hard for her to get roles after Hasbro brought in Airachnid.

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 06:34 AM)

you mean Venus Terzo! she's supposed to be going to Botcon

@  Whirl Maximus : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 AM)

Blackarachnia was on Supernatural last night.

@  Plokatron : (10 February 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Ponderous slagging ponderous. Hey anyone got some good Hi-res captures of Ironhide in Infestation? I really need close ups of his head for reference on a project.

@  Plokatron : (09 February 2016 - 10:46 PM)

Ok now this is funny. I ordered a used copy of HoS GN and the one I got was a library copy once. It's marked Union County on it. Thats my home county. :D It never was in my library though. Mine is named after the man who built it not the town or county but still kinda funny.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 February 2016 - 09:44 PM)

Is it sad I read "KF7 Soviet" as "KFC7 Soviet"?

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM)

Neat.

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 03:35 PM)

A what? Oh, you must mean a KF7 Soviet. Common mistake.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Can I just get an AK-47 instead?

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 02:35 PM)

this is form 47-a. you want form 47-A. start again

@  MEDdMI : (09 February 2016 - 02:07 PM)

Now you didn't fill the form in black or blue ink. Do it again.

@  Rycochet : (09 February 2016 - 02:04 PM)

You made a typo on the first page of the forms, you're going to have to go back and fill the whole form out again, from first to final.


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#1 Jeremy

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 11:18 AM

So I get a message in my "other" messages on Facebook the other day, which means someone not on my friends list, from this guy:

https://www.facebook.com/loveforht

Don't know him from a load of coal since he lives in Vietnam of all places, but he's messaged me basically saying "Hey Jeremy, here's your home address information, please confirm". I ask what's going on and what this is in regards to, and he pulls out even MORE information. Cell phone number, debit card number except for the last two digits (XX), card expiration date, card security number. When I ask him what's going on and where he got the information, he proceeds to tell me he's trying to figure out the reason my information was published online I guess, and keeps insisting I need to check my records for transaction with an online shopping website for 4/27/2011. When I say I don't really use my debit card for shopping online much, he keeps pursuing the April thing repeatedly, expanding the date parameters.

I've called and deactivated my debit card by this point, the lady on the phone did say there might be a suspicious charge attempt for Google, since I don't use that for anything finance-related. I keep pressing the guy about who he is, and why this is any of his business. He keeps pressing for wanting to know about any shopping done in my April records, which really only include some Paypal deposits into my account, and one with Fun Publications/transformersclub.com. That one was listed as charged on the 29th in my online account records, but the actual transaction could have happened on the 27th for all I know.

He still fails to tell me what's going on, or why he's so interested, so I told him thanks for the heads up on the card security issue but that we're done as far as I'm concerned. I kind of feel like I need to report this to Facebook, the authorities, or both, but I'm not sure how to go about that at all. Figured there's a pretty big experience pool here at the Allspark, so wanted to see what people think.

I've gone ahead and contacted Fun Pub about this.

Edited by Jeremy, 16 January 2012 - 11:27 AM.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 16 2012, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So I get a message in my "other" messages on Facebook the other day, which means someone not on my friends list, from this guy:

https://www.facebook.com/loveforht

Don't know him from a load of coal since he lives in Vietnam of all places, but he's messaged me basically saying "Hey Jeremy, here's your home address information, please confirm". I ask what's going on and what this is in regards to, and he pulls out even MORE information. Cell phone number, debit card number except for the last two digits (XX), card expiration date, card security number. When I ask him what's going on and where he got the information, he proceeds to tell me he's trying to figure out the reason my information was published online I guess, and keeps insisting I need to check my records for transaction with an online shopping website for 4/27/2011. When I say I don't really use my debit card for shopping online much, he keeps pursuing the April thing repeatedly, expanding the date parameters.

I've called and deactivated my debit card by this point, the lady on the phone did say there might be a suspicious charge attempt for Google, since I don't use that for anything finance-related. I keep pressing the guy about who he is, and why this is any of his business. He keeps pressing for wanting to know about any shopping done in my April records, which really only include some Paypal deposits into my account, and one with Fun Publications/transformersclub.com. That one was listed as charged on the 29th in my online account records, but the actual transaction could have happened on the 27th for all I know.

He still fails to tell me what's going on, or why he's so interested, so I told him thanks for the heads up on the card security issue but that we're done as far as I'm concerned. I kind of feel like I need to report this to Facebook, the authorities, or both, but I'm not sure how to go about that at all. Figured there's a pretty big experience pool here at the Allspark, so wanted to see what people think.

I've gone ahead and contacted Fun Pub about this.


Talk to your card company's fraud department. They should handle it from there.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 02:14 PM

Do you have identity theft insurance? Reading this makes me think I should get some.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 03:31 PM

No identity theft insurance. When I call about getting my replacement debit card, I'm going to ask them if there are any steps that they're going to take.

I'm really pretty convinced it was the Transformers Club website to blame now, because there just aren't a lot of other candidates around that time, and I think they have all my information in their system as it was presented to me by the mysterious man from Vietnam. I mainly only shop with BBTS online, and that's my credit card, not my debit card. Paypal is about all I use otherwise.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:08 PM

When was your last transaction at the club site? That has me concerned as well.

I'm glad that thus far your bank account seems not to have taken a hit. A very odd and unnerving situation.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 04:38 PM

The bank will be able to pull up more details on your POS transactions for those dates. I'd contact them.
Also, I believe credit cards are much better protected against fraud than debit cards when it comes to claiming back funds.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jan 16 2012, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No identity theft insurance. When I call about getting my replacement debit card, I'm going to ask them if there are any steps that they're going to take.

I'm really pretty convinced it was the Transformers Club website to blame now, because there just aren't a lot of other candidates around that time, and I think they have all my information in their system as it was presented to me by the mysterious man from Vietnam. I mainly only shop with BBTS online, and that's my credit card, not my debit card. Paypal is about all I use otherwise.



Very well may be. I had a VERY sophisticated phishing attempt made on me the day after my registration. Had someone call up, claiming to be Bank of America's fraud department. They attempted to get information from me regarding account number. They made the mistake of asking for expiration date and the CVV. Cue skidding brakes/record needle scratch noise. I told them I had forgotten and didn't have the card with me, at which point they attempted to get information about 'other' accounts. They said that they were going to close the account and issue a replacement card.

I called Bank of America directly and discussed it with them -- the 800 number wasn't on their records anywhere for their fraud department OR for FIA card services, which issue the card. He said that vendors would often cancel blocks of cards if they believe their information has been compromised, and the credit card companies would reissue cards. So the most likely scenario was that info was intercepted, and then the folks that got a hold of the credit card info were trying to capitalize on it by CALLING the people whose info they had stolen in an attempt to get more (enough) info to be able to make actual fraudulent charges before the vendor contacted the card company. On top of that, they add a mock fraudulent charge to the list, which the target can't verify online since the actual bank has halted the account.

And guess what? THEY can pull up details of transactions too! So they come off as legit because they have info that most people wouldn't expect anyone except the card company to know. They know enough about how the vendors and credit cards interact with each other to be able to bluff their way through conversations with the victim, presenting themselves as authorities, and can 'assure' them that they will cancel the card and reissue one -- which the bank was already doing on its own!

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE(^0^CORVUS^o^ @ Jan 16 2012, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When was your last transaction at the club site? That has me concerned as well.

I'm glad that thus far your bank account seems not to have taken a hit. A very odd and unnerving situation.


I imagine it's only been Botcon registration recently, and then that transaction toward the end of April of 2011. I don't really buy other items from the club store except for renewing membership, club exclusives, and Botcon.

For what it's worth, Angie from Fun Pub emailed me back and said she's transferred the information to the appropriate parties. I hate to accuse them, but they're the most likely candidate, and we all know they might not be the most secure website out there. icon-wildride.gif
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:35 PM

Ugh, yeah.

In future, unless FunPub improves the site, I think I'll stick to purchasing VISA gift cards and such for transactions with them.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:47 PM

Wasn't there a situation a while back where some site was showing other people's info who tried to log in there?

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 05:56 PM

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Wasn't there a situation a while back where some site was showing other people's info who tried to log in there?


Yep...if I'm not mistaken, it was the Club Store during the SDCC Alternators Nemesis Prime fiasco.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 06:09 PM

That's what I thought but I didn't want to say because I wasn't sure. I remember being worried something like this could happen.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

So I'm pretty well convinced that it's the Transformers Club website, the fact the guy had my cell phone number is kind of a dead giveaway because that's in my information on the club site at checkout. Do you guys think he was trying to get me to name a specific website for some sinister reason, like maybe finding out a good place that would be easy pickings to dig for further personal information? I specifically made sure not to give him anything, not knowing him from a load of coal, and the way he pursued getting me to give him any scrap of information from my records was a big red flag for me.

I need to renew my club membership, too. Not really dying to plug my credit card number in there, or my new debit card when I get it. :-\

Edited by Jeremy, 16 January 2012 - 09:44 PM.

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Posted 16 January 2012 - 10:49 PM

Hrm.



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Posted 17 January 2012 - 02:29 AM

If you want to renew, I'd go with Corvus' suggestion and use a prepaid card of some sort.

If it were me, I'd refuse to do any further business with the club and let them know specifically why.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 05:32 AM

Unless the guy was trying to extort money from you, or didn't HAVE those last two digits (unlikely, but who knows), it seems to me this guy really did you a huge favour.

Generally, malicious users don't WANT you to know they have your details. The longer you don't know, the better.

In fact, if what he told you was accurate, it's too late for you to do anything about a charge from April of last year, with most credit providers. So it's all a bit weird, and I honestly think he may have been doing you a favour.

And really, how DO you tell a stranger you know all their credit card details? It's gonna seem creepy however you say it.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 11:10 AM

Well, the guy also refused to really give me any context for what was going on, or who he was, though I acknowledge he could have faked it and said anything he wanted. Pretty much why at the end, after he kept pursuing his desire for information on what websites I'd bought from, I said thanks for the heads up, but we're done here.
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Posted 17 January 2012 - 12:03 PM

Well this is pretty scary as I just rejoined the club last month using my credit card. I've already had my info stolen once and had to deal with $1500 in charges already...I'd rather not hafta go through that garbage again. Guess I need to check my cc balance every day to keep an eye on it.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 12:06 PM

every month, i go through and itemize everything on my credit card. I also make all purchases either on my credit card or with cash, never my debit card. It's easier to fix problems with credit than to try to get your own money back once it's withdrawn.

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Posted 17 January 2012 - 01:06 PM

Wow - this is pretty crazy. I think I joined the club in late March last year. I only remember I wanted to wait until after the cutoff for the Sideburn because I didn't want another Hot Rod mold. And then I purchased the Cheetor and Ramjet.

edit - paid with my credit card (on April 28th...) so hopefully if anything squirrelly pops up now it will be covered.

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