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@  ShadowMan024 : (30 September 2016 - 06:10 PM)

FOOL! *points cane at NightViper*

@  NightViper : (30 September 2016 - 06:06 PM)

It's not "Fools of towel play"? Damn.

@  RichardT1977 : (30 September 2016 - 05:20 PM)

Huh, I always thought it was "tools of power play".

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:30 PM)

http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/133313-instruments-of-destruction-30th-anniversary-edition-youtube-video-and-legal-purchase-links-inside/

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 September 2016 - 03:18 PM)

tools of foul play

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:04 PM)

instruments of destruction

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:01 PM)

Maybe like how Megaempress and her 4 Guards showed up so many male Cybertrons and Destrons. *snerk*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

Maybe as a female EDC officer who actually kicks his ass for a change.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

And Carly too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

I would be thrilled to see him in the IDW continuity in the near future.

@  zephyrX9 : (29 September 2016 - 02:56 PM)

when the hell is chip chase gonna come back?

@  Robowang : (29 September 2016 - 11:14 AM)

Like a letter to my mom from prison inmates!

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:43 PM)

Although this is odd to me, since I'm fairly sure they are/were good friends.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 02:42 PM)

Yeah I stopped liking the guy when I found his Twitter.

@  zephyrX9 : (27 September 2016 - 12:35 PM)

https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/779870732935233536 link

@  unluckiness : (27 September 2016 - 09:16 AM)

I cut out the middleman and assume that they're all jerks and/or shills.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Social media is the worst thing to happen to fandom, you can now see people whose work you like being jerks or shills on a daily basis, which is worse than a bad interview or two.

@  Robowang : (27 September 2016 - 07:12 AM)

Dirty Jerk Warts?

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:05 AM)

Also, I guess he hates IDW Soundwave for not being an emotionless brick like the cartoon version? Man. Any enjoyment of Animated in future is going to be tainted for me by the fact that DJW is the worst kind of boring Geewunner.

@  Broadside : (27 September 2016 - 07:04 AM)

He also hates Action Man for no apparent reason other than "I don't know who this is and I don't care to find out". Which isn't fair, because Ian is the best character in IDW.

@  Jalaguy : (27 September 2016 - 06:47 AM)

DJW was mouthing off about the art for Revolution the other day too, doesn't entirely surprise.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 05:11 AM)

Do you have a link, zephyr?

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh!!

@  Cabooceratops : (27 September 2016 - 01:36 AM)

bweh bweh

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 10:11 PM)

Sipher's.

@  Telly : (26 September 2016 - 10:08 PM)

*has flashbacks of the "image wars"*

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 09:30 PM)

Sakamoto or Sipher's art?

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 September 2016 - 08:17 PM)

Oof.

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 08:05 PM)

Sipher made a sarcastic remark about Sakamoto's skeeviness. Derrick called him an a**hole, and insulted his art, which was a low, unnecessary blow.

@  Touch My Thighs : (26 September 2016 - 07:43 PM)

What did Derrick do?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:42 PM)

That makes sense, thank you.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 September 2016 - 07:30 PM)

Derrick J. Wyatt?

@  Pennpenn : (26 September 2016 - 07:21 PM)

Djw?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 September 2016 - 05:45 PM)

wow, didn't expect to have to block djw on twitter

@  ▲ndrusi : (26 September 2016 - 02:48 PM)

Yeah, it was really sad that they didn't survive in any of the endings. Eaten by Unicron every time.

@  Bass X0 : (26 September 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I wish I could have seen Kick Axe live.


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#21 Shadewing

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:19 PM

So we've got a new TF Medical term: Rigor Morphis, and was that Dipstick from LSOTW standing next to Xaaron?

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 08:30 PM

Sure looked like Dipstick, yeah.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

"Transformed to death" is a term I never really thought I'd ever hear O_O!

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:10 PM

I love Roche's art for this, and I'm really looking forward to some more exploration of Cybertronian society and *especially* interesting characters.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:55 PM

Rigor morphis...*groan*

I can't decide whether to love it or hate it because of the word play.







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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:58 PM

I want Roche to draw Transformers forever.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 11:48 PM

Is this the first mention of Nominus 'the douche' Prime since Megatron: Origin?

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 11:57 PM

QUOTE(G1MarvelBlaster @ Jan 9 2012, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the first mention of Nominus 'the douche' Prime since Megatron: Origin?


Nominus first appeared in "Chaos Theory," which was a few months ago.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:01 AM

Megatron: Origin prominently featured a senator named Decimus, is that who you're thinking of? He also had a cameo in Chaos Theory.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:12 AM

QUOTE(Jackpot @ Jan 9 2012, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The TF timeline just keeps getting stretched further into absurdity. The Ironhide mini told us that the war started 4 million years ago, #31 gave us a peek at Transformer life 15 million years into the future, and now this tells us that the Ark-1 left 6 million years ago, and transformation was developed another 6 million years before that. So we've now got a 27-million-year-long history, with probably more behind it going back to the first Cybertronians' origin. Good lord. I always prefer it when a new continuity drops the "millions of years" thing, but maybe I should just shrug and grin at the parody-like outrageousness that it's being taken to here. I guess there's always the hope that the Aligned bible either confines things to centuries/millenia or leaves it all purposely vague.


The Autobots and Decepticons did fight a 4 million years long civil war. How we perceive time really doesn't apply to them when you have a population of immortal robots who don't die outside of murder or suicide.

Edited by Cyoti, 10 January 2012 - 12:13 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Jan 9 2012, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G1MarvelBlaster @ Jan 9 2012, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the first mention of Nominus 'the douche' Prime since Megatron: Origin?


Nominus first appeared in "Chaos Theory," which was a few months ago.


The Energon rewatch must be screwing up my brain. Was a misreading of the wiki.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE(G1MarvelBlaster @ Jan 10 2012, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Energon rewatch must be screwing up my brain.


Yeah, Energon Poisoning is known to do that...

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE(G1MarvelBlaster @ Jan 10 2012, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Jan 9 2012, 11:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G1MarvelBlaster @ Jan 9 2012, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the first mention of Nominus 'the douche' Prime since Megatron: Origin?


Nominus first appeared in "Chaos Theory," which was a few months ago.


The Energon rewatch must be screwing up my brain. Was a misreading of the wiki.


The wiki was dumb and included a storylink to Megatron Origin even though he didn't exist as a character when that was made. I removed it. Some folks like putting in storylinks for fiction that's relevant to the character, but I'm a firm believer in linking nothing in the fiction section to something that the character didn't appear in or wasn't mentioned. Your confusion is why.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 01:13 AM

I'd like to point out that since this series will (eventually, given the pacing of the preview) deal with transformers in space, there is absolutely nothing "more than meets the eyes" about the series. Although I suppose it's better than "robots in disguise" where they are not in disguise on cybertron dealing with the 99%. Because IDW, like Batman, identifies with the 1%. They're job creators after all. And make more money in a day than you make in your lifetime. Because of their can-do attitude. Darned NAILS - why don't they love Iacon?

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:11 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Jan 9 2012, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That preview rocks. Chromedome getting air time and being special for his programming skill. Him being best friends with fellow nerd Rewind. Prowl being a dick.

This is what I want out of Transformers. Robots who are characters acting in character. Mystery, excitement, adventure. Can't wait for more.


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QUOTE(Confuzor @ Jan 9 2012, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"Transformed to death" is a term I never really thought I'd ever hear O_O!

Yeah, that reminds me of when Optimus asked Rodimus what the matrix felt like and Rodimus' response made it sound like transforming hurts them except for rare good days.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE(Cyoti @ Jan 9 2012, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Autobots and Decepticons did fight a 4 million years long civil war.

Not necessarily, if the creators of a new continuity don't want that to be the case. To the best of my knowledge, IDW actually kept the timeline vague for quite a while - Furman never gave dates of historical events, nor did other authors who even wrote stories set in the past (Megatron Origin, AHM, Spotlight: Blurr) until Costa, who finally dropped the "4 million years" bomb in Ironhide. Now that that's happened, I can't actually blame the new team for running with it, but I'm surprised how... enthusiastically they've embraced the concept.

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How we perceive time really doesn't apply to them when you have a population of immortal robots who don't die outside of murder or suicide.

True, but only up to a point. Consider how much life changes on Earth over millions of years through natural-selection-driven adaptation, then consider that the TFs can reconfigure their bodies almost without limit anytime they want. They should've become entirely new species several times over by now! I don't actually have a problem with the idea of a millions-of-years-old race - I like Babylon 5 as much as the next guy - but the TFs' personalities and behavior are absurdly similar to decades-old humans if that's the case. Keeping within IDW, look at the character arcs we've seen, Optimus in particular. We've watched circumstances over an in-fiction five-year span change him from a distant, pragmatic commander to a sentimental protector to a baffled soul-searcher. After 4+ million years, how could he have not already made that journey in some form? Nothing should ever be a surprise to him or anyone else!

Now, all that having been said, I don't think it's impossible to do the concept justice within TF. I think having a human express astonishment at TF history could open the door to some interesting statements about human nature, about the stubbornness of individuals and the need for new generations to replace the old in order to overcome deep hatreds. Also our tendency to repeat cycles within our individual lives. But I've yet to actually see such a story. I've only really seen authors address the absurdity by introducing mitigating factors, like DW's concept of Cybertron having gone through a "Great Shutdown." And of course when the idea was first introduced in the G1 'toon pilot, the cast spent those millions of years comatose, and when they awoke, they quite reasonably wondered whether Cybertron even still existed. Then later, Rumble's lack of knowledge of Vector Sigma and everyone but Blitzwing's amnesia about the Quintessons suggested that TFs couldn't actually remember their whole lives, which could go some way towards explaining their lack of change. Like Memento on an astronomical scale. But that's dipping into fanon territory, and it's still essentially a dodge, not a true justification.

There are plenty of absurdities in TF that I find forgivable, even indispensable, but even when I was a kid I looked askance at this one. I honestly don't think the mythos would be any worse off - in fact, it would be better - if it quietly disappeared. Nevertheless, I'm sure this won't be its last occurrence in the canon, and I'll just have to keep living with it. But that doesn't mean I won't still sigh a little each time.

Edited by Jackpot, 10 January 2012 - 03:10 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:53 AM

I miss when IDW had good art. Consistently.

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 02:55 AM

It's a good thing they'll be having good art consistently moving forward, if this preview is anything to go by!

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Posted 10 January 2012 - 06:35 AM

Story looks interesting.

Art sadly veering off into parody.

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