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@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:02 PM)

If they were in the G1 continuity (which I doubt would happen), then yes. Otherwise, a reboot would likely be separate from G1 and the current Movieverse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 01:49 PM)

Characters from rebooted movies would most likely get their own pages.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

If Transformers movies ever gets rebooted and if they decide to do more G1ish designs, would TFWiki classify that Movie's Optimus or Megatron as G1 (maybe giving them sub-pages like the one for IDW Optimus) or would they give them their own pages. Just wondering.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 12:53 PM)

Ha. How fitting that Beast Wars: Uprising implicitly repurposed the Star Convoy toy as an actual building called the Star Convoy.

@  Fnu Aw : (20 August 2016 - 10:05 AM)

At least Star Convoy has elbows.

@  Bass X0 : (20 August 2016 - 10:01 AM)

Never owned Star Convoy, but he looks like as much of a brick as the original Powermaster Optimus Prime articulation wise; minus the cab robot,


CHMS Deluxe Sunstorm (orange) review


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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:49 AM

One of my box Black Friday sale toys from KOtoys was a CHMS orange Sunstorm. You may recall when CHMS first released a Sunstorm toy it was yellow, which wasn't well received by some fans for the color choice, until this orange version came out too. Packaging is similar to Henkei Starscream. The box clearly states CHMS in the top corner instead of Takara Tomy. It's sloppily taped to the card. Inside Sunstorm is held down to 2 metal ties. In a ziplock baggies is a copy of the Henkei Starscream instructions (which do say Takaratomy on them!) as well as a bio card. The bio card is that of Henkei Starscream printed with only the yellow ink (no red or blue). Sadly mine is also off printed off center by an inch, so it cuts off half the printing. Note: That's a stock photo of the box, where the card is fine, my card is off center, and it was below the instructions, so you couldn't tell. I wonder if they were hiding the flaw?



In jet mode the toy looks awesome. Similar to the ehobby Sunstorm toy. Compared to my Classic Starscream it is a little looser in the wings. I also notice that the Decepticon symbols on the wings are a little crooked. I should probably put reprolabels over them.







The transformation is the same as the Classic Starscream, it uses a pretty near exact copy of the mold (not one that removes some leg joints, seen on early KOs by other companies). There is some trouble fitting the nosecone into the chest and shutting the chest completely, but it can be done. I'm told many CHMS seekers have this problem. Nothing is horribly loose or flopping, but it's no where as tight as my Classic Starscream, which has started to tighten up with age. The deco of the toy is VERY similar to Henkei Thundercracker. Basically take Henkei Thundercracker and remove the silver chest, change the blue to orange and the black to white, and you have nearly have Sunstorm's deco. Oddly the launcher buttons are made of orange plastic, but painted completely white. Paint is not as sloppy as some CHMS products I've seen, except for the already-mentioned Decepticon symbols on the wings being tilted.

Chrome seems perfect for now. I don't know it if will flake, but I'm told later CHMS toys had better chrome than early ones.

I notice that one of the 4 screws holding in the wings has it's philips head slightly stripped, like the guy putting them together pushed too long or something. Probably only an issue if you plan to remove them, as the screw is fully seated.

Inside his left leg is a copyright Hasbro 2006, while inside the left is a "CHMS1" stamp.




Edited by mignash, 06 January 2012 - 12:00 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:48 AM

I love him. He makes a damn near perfect Sunstorm in my opinion. No stupid hugging yellow either.
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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:10 PM

I have the yellow Raimmaker too, and would consider the yellow Sunstorm that I've seen cheap on ebay as additional Seekers in my army, but this has to be my favorite. It's a shame Hasbro or Takara never made one. I know they recolored that mold to death, but to Seeker collectors, we can't see too many repaints of that mold.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 10:07 PM

I think this toy is a piece of jive. Not really much good about it. Plastic is decent, but he's loose, the paint apps suck, things don't fit well, and others are too difficult to move. Mine even has missing paint apps on his left wing. Waste of $10.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 06:01 AM

Sorry to hear that Randy. You really got a jivey one if you have that many problems.
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Posted 09 January 2012 - 10:20 AM

I got this guy when he was first released and absolutely love him. His joints and paint apps are good as is the plastic quality but he's been replaced by IGear's Sunstorm now so the poor guy is now in storage.

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Posted 09 January 2012 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Jan 9 2012, 06:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to hear that Randy. You really got a jivey one if you have that many problems.

Thanks, I'll probably just end up selling the 3 (3 different kinds mind you) I bought.

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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:45 AM

Do you have any problems getting the feet all the way down for robot mode? I have the purple clone seeker (x3) and the feet don't make it down quite all the way (I don't want to break it by forcing it). Wondered if this guy had the same issue.
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Posted 13 January 2012 - 10:51 AM

Ignoring the KO shoddiness aspect of the figure, I find the deco rather bland, especially in alt-mode and in the upper-chest area.

I suppose that's the problem with patterning toys out of the Sunbow Cartoon, though. =/

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 12:20 AM

QUOTE(gargunkle @ Jan 13 2012, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you have any problems getting the feet all the way down for robot mode? I have the purple clone seeker (x3) and the feet don't make it down quite all the way (I don't want to break it by forcing it). Wondered if this guy had the same issue.


I have 5 of these CHMS seekers and only my Acid Rain suffers. His left foot won't quite reach.

I'm afraid it is clear that quality on these is spotty and depends greatly on how much you can tolerate. To me, these are 90% and anymore that beats a lot of official product. But I also know I got lucky to avoid some issues with mine that some others are having.

Got mine loose, not sure if that made any difference. I truly love them. I know we would likely never get anything like them from Hasbro and even TakaraTomy.
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Posted 16 January 2012 - 09:09 AM

I don't believe I have any problems with the feet.

A Generations Thrust I bought did so I returned it.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 09:43 PM

I picked up the yellow one from ii-toy on ebay for $11 and free shipping. Nice looking, but it had 2 QC issues. It's missing the pin on his right foot and they painted the wrong part of his right leg. Got the vent on his shin instead of his knee. It's painted just fine, but it's not symetrical with the left leg.

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:05 PM

I was happily surprised to learn that Reprolabels had a set of labels for the CHMS Sunstorm. Oddly they are NOT recolors of the Starscream labels (which is what ehobby Sunstorm used), but recolors of the Thundercracker labels done to match the orange colors. Still, they look nice. The set is called "Jet Chrome II."




Edited by mignash, 07 March 2012 - 10:06 PM.




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