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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Smitty

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 06:08 AM

So the Smitty's were coming out of Wal-Mart last night when all of the sudden this black Camaro stops a few feet short of hitting my wife and son. My son pointed at the can and said "Bumblebee!"

Edited by Smitty, 05 January 2012 - 08:47 PM.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 05 January 2012 - 06:38 AM

Since it was a black camaro and it almost hit your family, it was MURDERBEE

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:17 AM

I wish I could point at cans and be sute too!

I've seen kids do this with my friend's Camaro even though it's blue like Tracks.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:53 AM

Sute up!

Yellow Camaros (and black Mustangs) aren't uncommon here. I could just image a kid's delight seeing them both at the same time.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 08:13 AM

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I wish I could point at cans and be sute too!

I've seen kids do this with my friend's Camaro even though it's blue like Tracks.

Did you lose both your hands/arms in a combine harvester accident that you are now unable to point?

They need to make some TFs with a destoner or a tomato harvester or even a bale wrapper alt-mode.

I don't think there's a single true TFs fan who wouldn't buy a Leader Class TFs bale wrapper.


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Posted 05 January 2012 - 01:43 PM

Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE(Loki Corvinus @ Jan 5 2012, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 5 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:13 PM

I think we should rename this thread to "Transformers: TNG" because Smitty's inspired me to tell a cool story about my son.

I've pretty much always had some version of Transformers on the TV since my son was born (he's 3.5 now), and while I know he picks up alot (he knows most of the G1-BW show guys and the live action movies, and can delineate between different lines, i.e. the difference between movie and prime prime), I didn't know just how much until this past weekend. He's seen the '86 movie countless times and has always loved Hot Rod, so I thought it would be extra special that when MP Rodimus came out this year I put one away for him for Christmas (which helps me twofold in getting really good at his transformation, but I digress).

He loves having his own of course after oogling my 2 for the last few months. He loves that he can change from Hot Rod to Rodimus Prime. When the Hub starting showing season 3 he was particularly excited because it has all his buddies from the animated movie. Last weekend we were watching FFoD part 3, in particular the scene where Rodimus short-circuits himself and travels into the Matrix. My son (his name is RC or Ryan Christopher Junior) says "Dada, there's Hot Rod!" I didn't really look up from what I was doing, but knowing the ep I said "No, that's Rodimus Prime." He says, "NO Dada, that's Hot Rod!" I look up and sure enough, he caught an animation mistake, where they drew Rodimus with Hot Rod's facial lines. "You're right!" I said. "Good boy!" I was totally dumbfounded with this, as even when I was watching G1 as an 8-year-old I never picked up on that slight difference between the characters (I had always just assumed Hot Rod was shorter and pinker, mostly based on my memory of him reverting in Dark Awakening).

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 5 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.



Well they made a transformer as a toaster. Anythings possible.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 5 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...


I think he brought it up on the topic of unconventional vehicles.

A hearse Transformer could be a Decepticon named Deadbolt. And has a stasis pod in the back.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 04:39 PM

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Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...


I think he brought it up on the topic of unconventional vehicles.

I know. I'm being silly.

QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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Posted 05 January 2012 - 07:09 PM

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Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...

That's because we drive them to Air Cargo. Airports don't seem to be in favor of us picking up human remains from the baggage claim.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:30 AM

Man the things comeing outta the pods just gets weirder and weirder

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 03:45 AM

QUOTE(Internet Jesus @ Jan 5 2012, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Since it was a black camaro and it almost hit your family, it was MURDERBEE


Shattered Glass Bayverse Bumblebee.

But... since in the Bayverse, the Bots are murdering psychopaths and the Cons only want to save their home planet, shouldn't SG BB be good? [/just kidding] icon-fire.gif Now I am confused...

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:09 AM

I can't decide which is better:



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QUOTE(Loki Corvinus @ Jan 5 2012, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(C16 @ Jan 5 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...

That's because we drive them to Air Cargo. Airports don't seem to be in favor of us picking up human remains from the baggage claim.

QUOTE(tec @ Jan 6 2012, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man the things comeing outta the pods just gets weirder and weirder



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QUOTE(Smitty @ Jan 5 2012, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So the Smitty's were coming out of Wal-Mart last night when all of the sudden this black Camaro stops a few feet short of hitting my wife and son. My son pointed at the can and said "Bumblebee!"

QUOTE(tec @ Jan 6 2012, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Man the things comeing outta the pods just gets weirder and weirder


QUOTE(orionpax44 @ Jun 24 2012, 01:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Loki Corvinus @ Jan 5 2012, 01:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Honestly, there's tons of unconventional vehicle potential out there. I worked at an airport, there's alot of cool vehicles they could use.



I want a Transformers Hearse.

I don't usually see hearses at airports...


I think he brought it up on the topic of unconventional vehicles.

A hearse Transformer could be a Decepticon named Deadbolt. And has a stasis pod in the back.

Flatline's better.

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