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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?


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#1641 Rosicrucian

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 5 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Toys like Treadshot and Magnus are creating difficulty for me as an archivist. Normally, I say when a BotCon toy has a remolded head, but these heads that have never been seen at retail before (yet apparently weren't designed by the FP folks) create a new category. And my current attempt at a "footnote" for Magnus really doesn't work for the far-right column of the datasheet.

Darn you, FP! icon-arcee.gif
It's kind of "Darn you Hasbro" though! Hasbro putting more than one head option on the sprue this consistently is a rather new thing.


#1642 Cheetimus Primal

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:41 PM

NERD-STRIFE!!!
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#1643 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

QUOTE(Rosicrucian @ Jan 5 2012, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 5 2012, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Toys like Treadshot and Magnus are creating difficulty for me as an archivist. Normally, I say when a BotCon toy has a remolded head, but these heads that have never been seen at retail before (yet apparently weren't designed by the FP folks) create a new category. And my current attempt at a "footnote" for Magnus really doesn't work for the far-right column of the datasheet.

Darn you, FP! icon-arcee.gif
It's kind of "Darn you Hasbro" though! Hasbro putting more than one head option on the sprue this consistently is a rather new thing.

I certainly don't dispute that. Still, FP chose these molds, and not some others.

Not that I'm really upset at FP for this, of course.

#1644 Thylacine 2000

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:45 PM


Instead of calling it a "new head," how about a "previously unreleased head"? After all, you didn't say G2 Breakdown had a "new paintscheme," because it was the same paintscheme that had always been planned but was previously unreleased.



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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:45 PM

I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

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#1646 thrust222

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 5 2012, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Toys like Treadshot and Magnus are creating difficulty for me as an archivist. Normally, I say when a BotCon toy has a remolded head, but these heads that have never been seen at retail before (yet apparently weren't designed by the FP folks) create a new category. And my current attempt at a "footnote" for Magnus really doesn't work for the far-right column of the datasheet.

Darn you, FP! icon-arcee.gif


Oooo I always wondered who made that sheet as I've referred to it often. Anyway, I'm somewhat surprised hasbro let fb use those heads since they haven't used them yet themselves.

#1647 Nanite

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:57 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 5 2012, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

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I'm seeing periwinkle blue, which to my eye, has a purple tint. Sort of lavender.

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#1648 M Sipher

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:57 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 5 2012, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

colorblind.jpg

hee hee hee.


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#1649 Robowang

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 10:59 PM

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Unlike Bludgeon and Thunderwing (and presumably Octopunch), Stranglehold is one Pretender where I hope none of his shell's design elements are incorporated into a new figure. I get all the half-nekkid man-toys I need from He-Man.


C'mon, if the other two have Shell elements worked into their update then Stranglehold should too!


I know, lets merge shell and robot traits! Shell body with Robot Rhino head! He can have a vendetta against turtles too!


No! Rhino body with Burt Reynolds head! I demand it.

(Or at least give the rhino a mustache!)

#1650 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:02 PM

QUOTE(Thylacine2000 @ Jan 5 2012, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Instead of calling it a "new head," how about a "previously unreleased head"? After all, you didn't say G2 Breakdown had a "new paintscheme," because it was the same paintscheme that had always been planned but was previously unreleased.

I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that, as you don't seem to be referencing anything that I've actually done on the page over the past few years. Why would I reference a "new paintscheme" (for any figures) anyway?

(To say nothing of the fact that the page covers three distinct G2 Breakdowns. But it's clear enough that you mean the first)

When I set that part of the page up, it was intended to be a reflection of the extra effort (beyond that already required just to have a new figure made in the first place) that went into certain toys. Not just remolded heads (the most common, certainly), but other newly-created parts, as well.

#1651 Phlis

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 5 2012, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I set that part of the page up, it was intended to be a reflection of the extra effort (beyond that already required just to have a new figure made in the first place) that went into certain toys. Not just remolded heads (the most common, certainly), but other newly-created parts, as well.


Well, then unless Ultra Magnus uses a completely new head, there is no extra effort (as the head was already engineered, one assumes) that went into the figure.


#1652 CORVUS

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:06 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 5 2012, 10:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

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I now love you sir icon-fire.gif

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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#1653 G.B.Blackrock

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE(Phlis @ Jan 5 2012, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(G.B.Blackrock @ Jan 5 2012, 11:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When I set that part of the page up, it was intended to be a reflection of the extra effort (beyond that already required just to have a new figure made in the first place) that went into certain toys. Not just remolded heads (the most common, certainly), but other newly-created parts, as well.


Well, then unless Ultra Magnus uses a completely new head, there is no extra effort (as the head was already engineered, one assumes) that went into the figure.

Exactly my thoughts. And if I emphasize the word "for" in the heading "Any remolding/retooling done for exclusive?" (as it appears on the relevant column of the datasheet), it's fairly obvious that no such remolding for the exclusive has been done.

Thanks for helping me do what I should have done already. Will make the updates (and reflect Treadshot) before the night is out.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:22 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 5 2012, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

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I have a special message for those who think it's blue without any tinge of purple:

1. You're wrong.
2. Who cares?
3. You're wrong even if no one cares.
4. Look it up.
5. Really?


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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:23 PM

Oh I'm loving Treadshot! I'd consider trying to get one after Botcon but seeing how he's not hated like Gigastorm and Soundwave are I'm sure I won't be able to get one for a decent price.

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:27 PM

QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 5 2012, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Jan 5 2012, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for people who think Treadshot is purple:

colorblind.jpg

I have a special message for those who think it's blue without any tinge of purple:

1. You're wrong.
2. Who cares?
3. You're wrong even if no one cares.
4. Look it up.
5. Really?



My six year old puts up a more intelligent argument than that. Different people see different colors all the time, eyes are different. Some see blue others purple, I don't see it as a big deal either way.

Edited by thrust222, 05 January 2012 - 11:32 PM.


#1657 Otaku

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:32 PM

So... this isn't using the 1995 Gobot Sideswipe coloring?

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#1658 CORVUS

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:35 PM

QUOTE(MagmatronPrime @ Jan 5 2012, 11:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a special message for those who think it's blue without any tinge of purple:

1. You're wrong.
2. Who cares?
3. You're wrong even if no one cares.
4. Look it up.
5. Really?

See, we know MG is ribbing us and being good-humored.

You? You're just rude.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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#1659 Monzo

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:37 PM

This announcement has inspired me to heavily overhaul the wiki's Armada toyline page.

http://tfwiki.net/wi...rmada_(toyline)

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 11:42 PM

I like him. If anyone wants to sell me theirs with Sir Soundwave, I'm all for it. Though I wonder, why did we get this reveal today? Is it instead of tomorrow's?
Reclaim the suffix.




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