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@  Paladin : (14 February 2016 - 09:11 AM)

Valentine's Day. Bummer.

@  Smokey : (14 February 2016 - 04:42 AM)

Oh, and happy birthday Razorsaw.

@  Smokey : (14 February 2016 - 04:39 AM)

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!

@  Smokey : (14 February 2016 - 04:33 AM)

*punches through a silk screen* SILENCE!!!

@  Plokatron : (14 February 2016 - 02:53 AM)

@Smokey Nimcombots! You useless hunk of junk wheres my cheese omelet?!!

@  Smokey : (14 February 2016 - 02:32 AM)

Snoo PINGAS usual, I see?

@  Plokatron : (14 February 2016 - 01:52 AM)

Going to try and dress up as AoSTH Robotnik. Only two things I see being had for the costume. The Moustache and the classic yellow target belt thing. May need some help. :drunk

@  Plokatron : (14 February 2016 - 01:40 AM)

Hmmm bit of cool news for me. I'm going to my first Comic Con!! No not the Comicon a comic con in cape girardeau. First Con thats been close enough for me to go to!! Blast it will be.

@  unluckiness : (14 February 2016 - 01:31 AM)

Chromedome aside, it's not like they're doing anything in MTMTE.

@  Whirl Maximus : (14 February 2016 - 01:23 AM)

It just hit me, MTMTE might lose Brainstorm, Chromedome, Fort Max, Rewind, Ravage and Blaster to RiD.

@  Cabooceratops : (13 February 2016 - 11:45 PM)

Decepticons, Transform and Rise Up!

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 08:04 PM)

I'm actually rather fond of the phrase "You are being decieved," to be honest.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 08:03 PM)

"You are being decieved."

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:57 PM)

"Hope is not real"- Scourge, from IDW comic Autobots Wage Their Battle

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:50 PM)

We can only hope.

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:46 PM)

Also the Season 2 Trailer makes me hopeful for Clampdown getting more toys since he seems to be one of the blessed escapees

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:20 PM)

I had been hoping we'd get a good Windblade toy, and RID delivered this time.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 07:20 PM)

Yeah, RID Windblade is basically a gigantic slap in the face to the people who think RID could NEVER be anywhere near as good as "collector's" lines like Generations.

@  Boomhauer : (13 February 2016 - 07:13 PM)

Bisk is fun, but I'm more excited about Strongarm's fishgun, Scorponok with a different transformation for once and a Windblade that can stand up

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 06:43 PM)

One-steps are pretty much the most fun thing ever. It's kind of addicting to just shift from one mode to another over and over again.

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 06:41 PM)

That makes him even better than a Warrior.

@  Cabooceratops : (13 February 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Bisk is a 1-Step

@  Smokey : (13 February 2016 - 04:38 PM)

I hope Bisk is either a Legends or he's less messed up than he looks.

@  Plokatron : (13 February 2016 - 01:53 PM)

@Rycochet He is indeed voiced by Wierd Al. He is also a awesome brother. :D

@  Rycochet : (13 February 2016 - 07:15 AM)

Polkatron dares to be stupid and is voiced by A. Yankovic.

@  TheMightyMol... : (13 February 2016 - 07:07 AM)

He got all the musical talent in the family.

@  BillBarclay : (13 February 2016 - 05:59 AM)

Polkatron? is he Plokatron's spotty brother?

@  BillBarclay : (13 February 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Polkatron? is he Ploj

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 11:21 PM)

@Cabooceratops So was what I said. :D

@  Cabooceratops : (12 February 2016 - 09:10 PM)

It's called a joke, Polkatron, you may have heard of the concept?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 08:06 PM)

@Nutjob R/T @TheMightyMollusk Yesh are you Baybots thinking so litteral?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 02:41 PM)

Optimus makes a lousy helmet.

@  Nutjob R/T : (12 February 2016 - 02:11 PM)

Wait when did Optimus Prime fly off the top of your head?

@  Plokatron : (12 February 2016 - 01:55 PM)

@Paladin @TheMightyMollusk @NotVeryKnightly Dumb dumb dumb on Hasbros part. Optimus flew withing the first three episodes of the G1 cartoon. No not the glide flight thing that only Deceps uses after that I mean the jetpack part. Plus I can site four other times he flew off the top of my head.

@  Boomhauer : (12 February 2016 - 12:45 PM)

Optimus already got to fly in RID's Season finale, though one could argue he was just falling with style instead of flying properly.

@  Rycochet : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

The Unicron Trilogy had awful shows but some really neat toys even if it did get off to a shaky start with some of the unnecessarily flawed Armada stuff.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 12:09 PM)

Didn't he fly in Beast Hunters?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (12 February 2016 - 11:58 AM)

What about Animated?

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:55 AM)

Someone who never saw the Unicron Trilogy. God do I envy them....

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 11:49 AM)

...Hasbro's billing that new "Power Surge Optimus Prime" as "the first time Optimus takes flight." who thought THAT sounded right....

@  TheMightyMol... : (12 February 2016 - 11:34 AM)

More likely, they'll all follow the same visual style to retain brand coherency. The most you could hope for is better writing, but don't hold your breath.

@  Dracula : (12 February 2016 - 10:25 AM)

Cool. Bay can't possibly direct all of those. Maybe we'll get someone else's vision of what a TF movie could look like.

@  Paladin : (12 February 2016 - 10:14 AM)

ugh. we're apparently getting 1 TF film A YEAR starting 2017. and Bumblebee gets a spinoff film...

@  Plokatron : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 PM)

Guess no one has the comic then. Blast I need that close up of Ironhide's helmet!

@  Arazyr : (11 February 2016 - 01:41 PM)

Happy Birthday, young'un. 8^)

@  D Buster Prime : (11 February 2016 - 01:21 PM)

It's my BIRTHDAY! I'm 35 years young!

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 10:54 AM)

nah! it's Venus that's going to Botcon!

@  Paladin : (11 February 2016 - 10:45 AM)

could've also meant Cree Summer...

@  Dracula : (11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM)

Good going, Blackarachnia. I heard it's been hard for her to get roles after Hasbro brought in Airachnid.

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 06:34 AM)

you mean Venus Terzo! she's supposed to be going to Botcon


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#1 Rosicrucian

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:39 PM

In musing on Exiles, I've started to wonder whether it might be interesting to have a fuller governing body of Cybertronian society, with more specialized roles based on the passing of the artifacts of the Thirteen.

Prime would remain the position held by a Matrix-bearer, as their authority comes from being the successors of Prima.

Magnus in my mind could be a position whose symbol of office is the hammer of Solus Prime, and their duty would be to keep the armories of Cybertron.

Alpha Trion doesn't seem to have passed his artifact on, but how interesting would it be to have a number of successors who each carried the quill and the Covenant of Primus?

I think I even see room for Nemesis as a position, as a devil's advocate whose job it is to re-examine the Prime's plans and point out their flaws. I'm not sure which of the Thirteen this one would stem from. Perhaps a position to remember the Fallen's mistakes? Maybe the spiritual successors of Amalgamous Prime?

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:25 PM

So the Prime is the overall leader, and the Magnus the general of the Military, since they have the authority over weaponry? Nice, and opens up the way for an unscrupulous Magnus to seize control by keeping the Prime away from any true power, like the shoguns did with the emperor of Japan.

On the Nemesis front, how I've imagined it is "Nemesis Prime" is the term for any Prime who has abused his power, like the roman tradition of damnatio memoriae, their crimes were regarded as so heinous that their names were stricken from record.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:32 PM

I think it mostly interested me in the context I described it because how much story potential is there in a Nemesis who isn't necessarily a bad guy? The idea that Cybertron's governing body needs a Nemesis because there has to be someone who can tell the Prime "no."

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:39 PM

Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

The fallen's role was preventing Entropy right? Dosen't that mean that they'd have to replace the fallen with someone else?

Or does it mean that his role still is preventing Entropy. Only that he's learned to use entropic factors to create weapons. Also, does this mean the Decepticons symbolize the absolutist order by force principle. And, aren't really about destruction and chaos...


Also... I'm supposing that Liege Maximo. Is basically Legion maximum. Does that mean the liege symbolizes mass expansion and colonialism?

So the question here would the liege need to be replaced? Or is his fall the cause of cybertron's stagnation?

I'm guessing the fallen and Liege Maximo are still loyal to their causes. They just chose to ignore the balance the other primes give to their roles. To the point where they went to. The sake of our purpose only and damn everything else.

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#6 Rosicrucian

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:35 PM

I don't think his role was preventing entropy, but overseeing it. At least if I'm recalling correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

You make an interesting point. It would explain why only some transformers can combine into giant gestalts, because they are the only ones descended from Nexus Prime. That was my thought, when Nexus was described in detail, in Exodus. By the same logic, most of the robots with two or more alternate modes, must have some of Amagamous Prime in them; Having some shape-shifter CNA would explain how they can do something that is impossible for most other Cybertronians.


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:58 PM

They do more or less directly state that the remaining shapeshifters among the Cybertronian population claim descent from him, yeah.

#9 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:04 AM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Nov 26 2011, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.


Wouldn't that more or less lead to something like the two-party system in the States, where it seems the purpose of whoever isn't in power is to keep the ones who are from getting anything done?

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#10 BB Shockwave

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:50 AM

I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.

Edited by BB Shockwave, 28 November 2011 - 04:51 AM.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:41 PM

I've been attempting to write this story about government for Transformers.

It seems to me at least, that the fact of the Quintessons have enslaved the TFs will be seemingly kept as part of the overall mythos.

That TFs are so jaded about about governing systems, that they go off of a completely election based system. In effect, the civilian population wants something done, they vote to have it passed or not. Mass majority rules. Exceptions are added to laws by minority opposition to prevent abuse of the system. It acts like it's own check and balances. Trials are held by something similar to the jury selection process. There is no presiding Judge, but a jury of peers randomly selected to weigh the case against the law.


QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 28 2011, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.



BB, you and I need to have a nice friendly chat at some point...


Because, I've been wanting to do DC: Transformed like ever since the rumors of DC entertaining the TF license was circulated and created a stir.


DC: Transformed being a full fledged Transformer/DC fanfic group of titles {short story fanfics released like "issues" of a comic, each centered on the characters of the title.}.


And yes, I've done this kind of thing before icon-fire.gif.

Edited by Blacknife, 29 November 2011 - 04:56 PM.

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