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@  Paladin : (10 December 2016 - 08:34 PM)

"Black Desert Online" here..

@  ▲ndrusi : (10 December 2016 - 06:31 PM)

I'm seeing a Dell ad right now

@  Varnon : (10 December 2016 - 05:44 PM)

I see the adds fine... but oh lort, what did I click on to make ladychinesedate and muslimmatrimonial ads come up?

@  ShadowMan024 : (10 December 2016 - 05:39 PM)

Why am I bringing that up? Because it also probably echoes how Marvel feels about the DC cinematic universe.

@  ShadowMan024 : (10 December 2016 - 05:37 PM)

Walt Disney on Fleischer Studios' Gulliver's Travels: "We can do better than that with our second-string animators."

@  TM2-Megatron : (10 December 2016 - 05:29 PM)

I don't see any ads

@  Kalidor : (10 December 2016 - 04:54 PM)

Can you guys see the google ads? I tried to get rid of the invasive video ads but I feel like I broke something

@  Rycochet : (10 December 2016 - 06:00 AM)

I always find the subscriber numbers given by places like Facebook and Youtube highly dubious. He may have 50 million accounts subscribing to his videos, but how many of those actually watch, how many are unique people and not a 13 year old's 16 different youtube accounts and so on and so forth.

@  Blacknife : (10 December 2016 - 02:14 AM)

I suppose my guilty pleasure is Ijustine...so yeah...*thingsoneshouldn'tadmit

@  Waspinator : (10 December 2016 - 01:50 AM)

Honestly, there's people considered celebrities for much worse reasons.

@  Ms Virion : (10 December 2016 - 01:01 AM)

I don't know, if 50 million people all watch someone's content, I'm pretty sure they are.

@  Confuzor : (10 December 2016 - 12:47 AM)

Mr the Frog, we all discussed this and agreed "A youtube person is not a celebrity"

@  OrionPax44 : (09 December 2016 - 05:16 PM)

Only reason I know that name is due to my 13 year old would keep talking about him. He can go by by for all I care.

@  Rycochet : (09 December 2016 - 12:16 PM)

I doubt it's to help anyone but himself, by pointing out he can and will possibly totally delete his channel and getting a lot of buzz online for it, I'm sure he's hoping some other internet company or media dinosaur is going to throw money around to get him on board.

@  The Doctor Who : (09 December 2016 - 12:11 PM)

I mean, YouTube does have some really awful and content-creator-unfriendly policies, but, uh, I don't see what that would do to help...

@  Benbot : (09 December 2016 - 11:54 AM)

To protest how Youtube promotes certain videos and channels over others. Because...he doesn't get enough views...?

@  unluckiness : (09 December 2016 - 11:48 AM)

Why would he delete a source of income for basically doing nothing?

@  Dracula : (09 December 2016 - 11:43 AM)

He's a guy that does let's plays, and he claimed he'd delete his channel in protest of YouTube if he reached...what, 50M subscribers?

@  Rycochet : (09 December 2016 - 11:34 AM)

The internet equivelant of someone jangling keys and making a silly voice to amuse a toddler.

@  Benbot : (09 December 2016 - 11:30 AM)

for reasons that cannot be fathomed

@  Benbot : (09 December 2016 - 11:29 AM)

some Youtube guy that little kids like

@  Paladin : (09 December 2016 - 11:26 AM)

the hugs' a "Pewdiepie?"

@  Benbot : (09 December 2016 - 11:22 AM)

So has PewDiePie deleted his channel yet?

@  BlackMax : (09 December 2016 - 05:20 AM)

Sh Shrapnel Pig can have an army of clones of himself and chew through reinforced metal doors? I am officially afraid now.

@  Autobot Bubbs : (09 December 2016 - 03:46 AM)

Who said his name?

@  The Doctor Who : (08 December 2016 - 10:58 PM)

Shrapnel pig, Shrapnel Pig does whatever a Shrapnel can!

@  BlackMax : (08 December 2016 - 06:03 PM)

"Enjoy your shrapnel pig" is now a phrase I will work at random into conversation.

@  Rycochet : (08 December 2016 - 06:01 PM)

Enjoy your shrapnel pig, kids!

@  Rycochet : (08 December 2016 - 06:01 PM)

How about BWN Randy? GPS paired with a springloaded gimmick.

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 December 2016 - 05:10 PM)

Find a box of G1 Slog. GPS and rubber shell rot.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (08 December 2016 - 05:08 PM)

The height of Transformer-toy-donation-based cruelty.

@  Bass X0 : (08 December 2016 - 05:06 PM)

Ha! That G2 Slingshot will crumble in their hands! That's pretty hateful.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (08 December 2016 - 05:03 PM)

Donate one of the older figures made entirely of gold plastic. :wtf

@  ShadowMan024 : (08 December 2016 - 04:49 PM)

Okay, that's going way too far.

@  Locoman : (08 December 2016 - 04:38 PM)

Armada Sideswipes for all the boys and girls!

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 December 2016 - 04:36 PM)

Okay now you're just taking this too far.

@  ShadowMan024 : (08 December 2016 - 04:32 PM)

And if you wanna go to hell, you'll donate a Tuner Mudflap.

@  Bass X0 : (08 December 2016 - 04:08 PM)

and if you're really feeling abusive, you will give the gift of Generations Cheetor. probably still some shelf-warming a store somewhere

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 December 2016 - 01:51 PM)

In that case, ALL the Rattraps.

@  Rycochet : (08 December 2016 - 10:47 AM)

Toys for tots you hate.

@  unluckiness : (08 December 2016 - 09:12 AM)

Poor tots, having to transform that.

@  Steevy Maximus : (08 December 2016 - 12:04 AM)

If Rattrap is still there, I'll just buy it for Toys for Tots. Two plus years is too long to see a figure shelfwarm

@  The Doctor Who : (07 December 2016 - 09:24 PM)

About this much:

@  Telly : (07 December 2016 - 09:06 PM)

what length of rope do you think youll need?

@  D.M : (07 December 2016 - 08:59 PM)

He's gonna need more rope.

@  BlackMax : (07 December 2016 - 06:12 PM)

C'mon now, you can't play the game if you're not going to follow the rules.

@  The Doctor Who : (07 December 2016 - 05:04 PM)

Candlejack Skellington.

@  Noideaforaname : (07 December 2016 - 05:02 PM)

CANDLEJACK CANDLEJACK CANDLEJACK

@  BlackMax : (07 December 2016 - 04:27 PM)

What was he talking about? That old cartoon about Candlej

@  Dracula : (07 December 2016 - 03:01 PM)

ShadowMan024's body was never found


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#1 Rosicrucian

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:39 PM

In musing on Exiles, I've started to wonder whether it might be interesting to have a fuller governing body of Cybertronian society, with more specialized roles based on the passing of the artifacts of the Thirteen.

Prime would remain the position held by a Matrix-bearer, as their authority comes from being the successors of Prima.

Magnus in my mind could be a position whose symbol of office is the hammer of Solus Prime, and their duty would be to keep the armories of Cybertron.

Alpha Trion doesn't seem to have passed his artifact on, but how interesting would it be to have a number of successors who each carried the quill and the Covenant of Primus?

I think I even see room for Nemesis as a position, as a devil's advocate whose job it is to re-examine the Prime's plans and point out their flaws. I'm not sure which of the Thirteen this one would stem from. Perhaps a position to remember the Fallen's mistakes? Maybe the spiritual successors of Amalgamous Prime?

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:25 PM

So the Prime is the overall leader, and the Magnus the general of the Military, since they have the authority over weaponry? Nice, and opens up the way for an unscrupulous Magnus to seize control by keeping the Prime away from any true power, like the shoguns did with the emperor of Japan.

On the Nemesis front, how I've imagined it is "Nemesis Prime" is the term for any Prime who has abused his power, like the roman tradition of damnatio memoriae, their crimes were regarded as so heinous that their names were stricken from record.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:32 PM

I think it mostly interested me in the context I described it because how much story potential is there in a Nemesis who isn't necessarily a bad guy? The idea that Cybertron's governing body needs a Nemesis because there has to be someone who can tell the Prime "no."

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 07:39 PM

Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 08:36 PM

The fallen's role was preventing Entropy right? Dosen't that mean that they'd have to replace the fallen with someone else?

Or does it mean that his role still is preventing Entropy. Only that he's learned to use entropic factors to create weapons. Also, does this mean the Decepticons symbolize the absolutist order by force principle. And, aren't really about destruction and chaos...


Also... I'm supposing that Liege Maximo. Is basically Legion maximum. Does that mean the liege symbolizes mass expansion and colonialism?

So the question here would the liege need to be replaced? Or is his fall the cause of cybertron's stagnation?

I'm guessing the fallen and Liege Maximo are still loyal to their causes. They just chose to ignore the balance the other primes give to their roles. To the point where they went to. The sake of our purpose only and damn everything else.

Edited by MonsterFromMars, 26 November 2011 - 08:40 PM.


#6 Rosicrucian

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 09:35 PM

I don't think his role was preventing entropy, but overseeing it. At least if I'm recalling correctly.

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 10:35 PM

You make an interesting point. It would explain why only some transformers can combine into giant gestalts, because they are the only ones descended from Nexus Prime. That was my thought, when Nexus was described in detail, in Exodus. By the same logic, most of the robots with two or more alternate modes, must have some of Amagamous Prime in them; Having some shape-shifter CNA would explain how they can do something that is impossible for most other Cybertronians.


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Posted 27 November 2011 - 06:58 PM

They do more or less directly state that the remaining shapeshifters among the Cybertronian population claim descent from him, yeah.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:04 AM

QUOTE(Daytonus @ Nov 26 2011, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Appointing a Devil's Advocate is an important means of preventing groupthink, so it definitely has potential. I think Amalgamous descendants would be good for this role, so perhaps there could be a high-ranking Shifter.


Wouldn't that more or less lead to something like the two-party system in the States, where it seems the purpose of whoever isn't in power is to keep the ones who are from getting anything done?

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 04:50 AM

I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 04:41 PM

I've been attempting to write this story about government for Transformers.

It seems to me at least, that the fact of the Quintessons have enslaved the TFs will be seemingly kept as part of the overall mythos.

That TFs are so jaded about about governing systems, that they go off of a completely election based system. In effect, the civilian population wants something done, they vote to have it passed or not. Mass majority rules. Exceptions are added to laws by minority opposition to prevent abuse of the system. It acts like it's own check and balances. Trials are held by something similar to the jury selection process. There is no presiding Judge, but a jury of peers randomly selected to weigh the case against the law.


QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 28 2011, 03:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have been working on a fanfic set in a sort of amalgamated universe called "JLC" aka "Justice League of Cybertron (obviously, an amalgamation of TFs and the DC universe). icon-hotrod.gif In this universe, the thirteen would all be TFs with a very specific role set for them by their creator - there is a Scholar, a Bastion (last line of defense), a Protector, a Keeper, a Gatherer of Knowledge, a Seer, etc... But due to a global event caused by a certain antagonistic race, all but one of them have now no memories of their former purpose, living in the general TF populace - yet, their primal programming does emerge, even if sometimes in seriously warped ways.



BB, you and I need to have a nice friendly chat at some point...


Because, I've been wanting to do DC: Transformed like ever since the rumors of DC entertaining the TF license was circulated and created a stir.


DC: Transformed being a full fledged Transformer/DC fanfic group of titles {short story fanfics released like "issues" of a comic, each centered on the characters of the title.}.


And yes, I've done this kind of thing before icon-fire.gif.

Edited by Blacknife, 29 November 2011 - 04:56 PM.

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