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@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.


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#1 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:27 AM

Today only, ToysRUs.com is having a sale on Transformers. Couple that with their free-shipping-no-minimum-purchase deal for the holidays, and there are good deals to be had. I got Undertow for $7 shipped! Sadly, no Heavytread, and MP Rodimus seems to be the one Transformers-related item that isn't included. But still, check out the good stuff they do have:
http://www.toysrus.c...a...47&view=all

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#2 Jeremy

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:39 AM

Thanks for the heads up! I've kind of been wanting those last Power Core Combiners 2 packs, but only if they were at a low price like this. Shame about not Heavytread, but maybe he'll show up later. Also let me get rid of some store credit that I've had lingering forever.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:52 AM

TRU.com, HOOOOO!

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.

 

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:13 AM

Skyhammer with free shipping FTW!

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 11:44 AM

It's basically all DotM so nothing I want despite the great deal. Too bad I bought that Rage Over Cybertron 3 pack a few weeks back.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 12:46 PM

This promo also combines with the "BOGO half off on deluxes" deal they're running. You end up with two for less than $12...nothing I need, unfortunately, but a great deal for those still wanting deluxes.

I picked up the Streetside Bot Brawl (normally $49.99) for $34.99.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:09 PM

QUOTE(Engledogg @ Nov 14 2011, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This promo also combines with the "BOGO half off on deluxes" deal they're running. You end up with two for less than $12...nothing I need, unfortunately, but a great deal for those still wanting deluxes.

I picked up the Streetside Bot Brawl (normally $49.99) for $34.99.

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Anyone know how long this sale lasts?


#8 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:25 PM

Hmm... DOTM Deluxes Barricade and Starscream for $12.50 shipped. Should I...?

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 06:34 PM

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Anyone know how long this sale lasts?

The "BOGO half off on deluxes" deal ends November 19th and the 25% off sale ends tonight at midnight. Not sure when the free shipping offer ends.

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE(mattski @ Nov 14 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skyhammer with free shipping FTW!


I'm glad you saw this too. Now if either of us could just track down that elusive Heavy Tread...

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:37 PM

QUOTE(CatSCAN PhD @ Nov 14 2011, 07:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mattski @ Nov 14 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skyhammer with free shipping FTW!


I'm glad you saw this too. Now if either of us could just track down that elusive Heavy Tread...


dude, you ain't kidding. i even braved the DDs discounts today again. i don't know what got into me. perfect waste of my lunch hour. icon-megs.gif

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Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:42 PM

QUOTE(CatSCAN PhD @ Nov 14 2011, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mattski @ Nov 14 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skyhammer with free shipping FTW!


I'm glad you saw this too. Now if either of us could just track down that elusive Heavy Tread...

...and Salvage and the Stunticons... icon-screamer.gif
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:53 AM

QUOTE(ChessPieceFace @ Nov 14 2011, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm... DOTM Deluxes Barricade and Starscream for $12.50 shipped. Should I...?

Did you?

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Childrens toys? whaa the boxes seriously say ages 5+ I consider myself the plus.
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You're talking to ▲ndrusi. Assume everything that he posts is snark.

#14 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:34 AM

I did.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 04:11 PM

Bah. I've already got all this crap. icon-screamer.gif
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Posted 15 November 2011 - 07:28 PM

I will never go back to that DD's Discounts. No way. I'm sticking to nice Marshall's, TJ Maxx's, and Ross's. No more ghetto adventures for me. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 10:41 PM

QUOTE(Scottimus Prime @ Nov 14 2011, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(CatSCAN PhD @ Nov 14 2011, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mattski @ Nov 14 2011, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Skyhammer with free shipping FTW!


I'm glad you saw this too. Now if either of us could just track down that elusive Heavy Tread...

...and Salvage and the Stunticons... icon-screamer.gif


Try Entertainment Earth for those two; shipping's a bit of a pain, but they're where I got Over-Run along with Skyhammer a couple weeks back.


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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:03 AM

QUOTE(CatSCAN PhD @ Nov 15 2011, 07:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I will never go back to that DD's Discounts. No way. I'm sticking to nice Marshall's, TJ Maxx's, and Ross's. No more ghetto adventures for me. icon-hotrod.gif

Don't know about your Marshalls etc but I consider ours pretty ghetto already. Can't imagine how bad the DD's must be!
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