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@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...


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#521 Eva Sigma

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:35 PM

It's already sold out on HLJ. icon-screamer.gif
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 05:46 PM

And so is Fourze Module Set 02....dammit.


Oh well, I'll just resort to eBay for that I guess, prices for set 01 seem to be fairly fair.

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Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:15 PM

Oh great, preorders for Figma Chie are up and we don't have the slightest idea if a D-Arts Tomoe will actually happen... But if I don't preorder I'll regret it... Agh.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 09:34 PM

QUOTE(Zek @ Feb 27 2012, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Paladin @ Feb 27 2012, 05:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Gurren Lagann




!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh, and Big O could be cool too.

Well, this year IS the 5th anniversary of the series.

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 01 March 2012 - 11:34 PM

^Which is something I said in perhaps the older version of this thread.


I missed out on GL when it was cool, but now's my chance to own some stuff at prices that won't disembowel me!


Perhaps they could re-release impact Lagann with a more poseable Simon.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 12:37 AM

QUOTE(Amadeus Windfall @ Mar 1 2012, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh great, preorders for Figma Chie are up and we don't have the slightest idea if a D-Arts Tomoe will actually happen... But if I don't preorder I'll regret it... Agh.


*sees "Figma Chie", checks Otacute, preorders*
Niiice. Wonder who else they'll make..

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Edited by Boss Borot, 02 March 2012 - 12:38 AM.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:44 PM

http://www.goodsmile...aman Blade.html

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

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Woo hoo!

Now I'll finally be able to preorder it!
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:50 PM

Chie, Samus and Tekkman blade cant all come out in June so expect delays..

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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE(Goblez @ Mar 5 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chie, Samus and Tekkman blade cant all come out in June so expect delays..


I wouldn't mind, that would make it easier to get Robot Damashii Wing Zero.

Now, if Kyouko gets delayed from April to...whenever, I'll be pissed.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:57 PM

QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Mar 6 2012, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Goblez @ Mar 5 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chie, Samus and Tekkman blade cant all come out in June so expect delays..


I wouldn't mind, that would make it easier to get Robot Damashii Wing Zero.

Now, if Kyouko gets delayed from April to...whenever, I'll be pissed.





How was it supposed to go anyway was it going to be

Mami - Feb (now march)
Sayaka - March (now april)
Kyoko - April


...if thats the case yeah she will be May. May is really quiet compared to April




EDIT:

these are June as well
figma Irisviel von Einzbern
figma Princess of the Crystal
figma Sunred

Edited by Goblez, 05 March 2012 - 10:59 PM.


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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:00 PM

QUOTE(Goblez @ Mar 5 2012, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(EvilEyeSigma @ Mar 6 2012, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

QUOTE(Goblez @ Mar 5 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Chie, Samus and Tekkman blade cant all come out in June so expect delays..


I wouldn't mind, that would make it easier to get Robot Damashii Wing Zero.

Now, if Kyouko gets delayed from April to...whenever, I'll be pissed.





How was it supposed to go anyway was it going to be

Mami - Feb (now march)
Sayaka - March (now april)
Kyoko - April


...if thats the case yeah she will be May. May is really quiet compared to April




EDIT:

these are June as well
figma Irisviel von Einzbern
figma Princess of the Crystal
figma Sunred


Mami was supposed to be January and Sayaka February.

But I suppose being delayed to May wouldn't be too bad, given how packed June is. I wouldn't be surprised if only Chie and Samus came out in June, with all the others delayed to July and August.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

he's up

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Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:25 AM



out in June. 4410yen

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http://www.amazon.com/Bandai-Vile-Megaman-...6264&sr=1-2

Vile is up on Amazon for all those people worrying about the exclusivity of it all

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:00 PM



Not exactly new but I had this guy a while ago and broke sadly, so about time I replaced him.

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Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:49 PM

http://p-bandai.jp/tamashiiwebshouten/item-1000015327/

GaoGaigar stuff just went up on the webstore..

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:16 PM

I've been waiting forever to make this picture happen. I give you, Zek's Ultimate Crossover!!!




Will Fourze join the Strawhats? Or will Luffy join the KRC? Tune in to find out!

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 06:12 PM

Now we need an Adventure Time / Fourze / Portal crossover.

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

I wonder if the armor will look as shiny when the final product is out









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