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@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sub-pages are not done because of new franchises; they are done for length reasons.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:12 PM)

I mean if they look like this: http://www.allspark....-1471381025.jpg

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:02 PM)

If they were in the G1 continuity (which I doubt would happen), then yes. Otherwise, a reboot would likely be separate from G1 and the current Movieverse.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 01:49 PM)

Characters from rebooted movies would most likely get their own pages.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

If Transformers movies ever gets rebooted and if they decide to do more G1ish designs, would TFWiki classify that Movie's Optimus or Megatron as G1 (maybe giving them sub-pages like the one for IDW Optimus) or would they give them their own pages. Just wondering.


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#1 Chip

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 08:46 PM

Like it says in the topic: is it still possible to buy a Henkei Starscream without just having to hope you haven't dropped a lot of money on the crappy knockoff? s there any way to tell from the packaging? I've been burned once on this, because I didn't realize the KO was available in normal Starscream colors. Should I just assume they're all fakes?

Edited by Chip, 10 November 2011 - 08:48 PM.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:22 PM

As I understand it, the KO doesn't have a TakaraTomy logo on the upper right hand side, and lacks the embossed Transformers logo on the bubble.

Ah, that only applies to the second release of the KO. :/

Edited by Spectre, 10 November 2011 - 09:25 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:39 PM

I didn't think they KO'ed Henkei Starscream, but they must have...

The real Henkei Starscream is very pretty, probably my favorite release of the Seeker mold, it's just very good.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 11:28 PM

Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.
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#5 Chip

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Nov 10 2011, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.

Oh, once you open him it's completely obvious. Aside from the known tell in the shoulder sculpt, there are quality differences: torso won't quite close, wings are floppy, feels cheap. None of that is helpful when you're buying stuff on the internet.

Spectre, thanks for the helpful info. I may just go with the Universe toy.

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 07:36 AM

QUOTE(GALVATRON I @ Nov 10 2011, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do your due diligence, I am sure there are tells. The sky isn't falling.


Not to restart an extremely tired argument, but fans put off purchasing a legit item because of the abundance of KO's of said item = not good for the health of the collector base, surely?

TF's seem to have so many more current and 'accurate' bootlegs than a lot of other lines I collect.

It's great it has that level of appeal, but well, people get frustrated if they think they're buying the real deal, and get a KO instead. Yeah they can get re-imbursed, but it's still off-putting for the next time you go to buy online.


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Posted 11 November 2011 - 08:24 AM

I know I would be hesitant to buy any of the Henkei Seekers without thorough investigation or trusting the dealer from previous experience.

Hugging KO-makers...

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:22 PM

What about Henkei Megatron? Are there issues of legitimacy with those as well?

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:35 PM

KO's I believe are limited to every iteration of the Henkei/Gentei Seekers, Mirage (specifically the BotCon, Clear Gentei, Fracture, Dragstrip, and the Henkei), Classics Voyager Optimus (specifically SG Optimus, Convoy Black, Crystal Convoy), Classics Rodimus (specifically Wildrider and SG Rodimus), and Universe Sideswipe.

I haven't heard of any KO's of Voyager Megatron or anyone else (I may be forgetting someone though).

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:40 PM

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:41 PM

There are Voyager Megatron KOs, but they aren't identical to any release. They have odd colors, and in some cases, minor remolds.
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Posted 11 November 2011 - 02:42 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Nov 11 2011, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
KO's I believe are limited to every iteration of the Henkei/Gentei Seekers, Mirage (specifically the BotCon, Clear Gentei, Fracture, Dragstrip, and the Henkei), Classics Voyager Optimus (specifically SG Optimus, Convoy Black, Crystal Convoy), Classics Rodimus (specifically Wildrider and SG Rodimus), and Universe Sideswipe.

I haven't heard of any KO's of Voyager Megatron or anyone else (I may be forgetting someone though).

Randy


There are non-replica KOs of the Voyager Classic Megatron mold, but no replica KOs of it. The non-replica KOs are completely original decos and packaging. Some add light and sound! Still, impossible to mistake for the HasTak item.






Edited by mignash, 11 November 2011 - 02:44 PM.


#13 Chip

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Posted 11 November 2011 - 03:42 PM

I was completely unaware of the Mirage-mold KOs until I sold my Dragstrip and two different bidders emailed me to make sure he was legit. I had to go check a comparison thread at TFW just to be sure I hadn't been ripped off when I bought him.

I have no real objection to crazypants knockoffs like those Megatrons. The orange one looks outstanding.

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