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@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:39 PM

My DCUC Wave 19 arrived last week. Very cool sculpts all around, with the exception of Stargirl, who is even worse in person. She's a bit of a disaster. I'm going to try and fix her abdomen and face, but so far, I've just made her like a chainsaw sculpture.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:04 PM

Army builders aside, I have nine figures in transit to me, and then I'll have only six individual characters to own before I can consider my DCIH collection complete.

Edited by Detour, 06 November 2011 - 08:05 PM.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Nov 6 2011, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My DCUC Wave 19 arrived last week. Very cool sculpts all around, with the exception of Stargirl, who is even worse in person. She's a bit of a disaster. I'm going to try and fix her abdomen and face, but so far, I've just made her like a chainsaw sculpture.


Thanks for starting the thread! I considered it the other day, but stopped for some reason.



As for wave 19, it will ship to me as soon as I change all my shipping info over to the new house. Kinda sad Stargirl looks like such a freak. My daughter really wants me to buy one for her...

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 11:51 AM

STRIPE makes the whole wave worth it. I know little of the character, but I love the figure.

As for Stargirl, she looks like this: http://thefwoosh.com...rt-i#more-17971

Only her torso was even more messed up on mine. It's molded in flesh colored plastic, then painted blue, then flesh paint on top, and it looked awful. The casting quality was really crummy too. Add the bizzaro-muffin-top, jokerface, and kinda odd proportions of the small female DC buck, and it's a really tough figure to love.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:57 PM

With a spare Lex Luthor body and a little paint, I turned evil, out-of-character, poorly-written Maxwell Lord into suit-wearing, Justice League financier good guy Maxwell Lord:

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 06:47 PM

Super 80's Shoulderpad man!

Nabbed a DCSH Brainiac off ebay yesterday. I am inordinately pleased by this.

Edit: DCUC is dead! Long live DC Universe All Stars!

http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=15233


Edited by Nanite, 07 November 2011 - 06:52 PM.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:54 PM

I'd be all for the rehash of BB but needs some wings. Larfleeze is cool but don't the different Lanterns of the different corps have funky looking handles. SB Prime looks like he needs another head resculpt. And whos the Plas wannabe? Looks too serious to be Plastic Man.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 10:13 PM

Apparently it's the Plastic Man of Flashpoint.


Nothing exciting here IMO. Couldn't they shove this crap in the sub and give us Jay Garrick at retail? icon-screamer.gif

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 12:55 AM

QUOTE(Detour @ Nov 7 2011, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently it's the Plastic Man of Flashpoint.


Nothing exciting here IMO. Couldn't they shove this crap in the sub and give us Jay Garrick at retail? icon-screamer.gif


As a club member, I am very happy not to be receiving any of these.

I agree with Daith, Superboy has a pinhead. Larfleez looks worse then his DC Direct version. Plastic Man comes from a mini I didn't read, and which sounds awful.

BB goes fairly high on ebay so I can't really fault that one.
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 01:01 AM

I want to get Larfleeze and stick the DCD head on him.

Superboy Prime is also want.

The other two can shove it.

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 08:15 PM

Brainiac needed Koko, so I gave him Koko:


And by mistake an online store sent me the wrong figure and let me keep it free, so I put it to use making that timeless Jim Lee character that's bound to be forever remembered by the common consciousness as one of the greatest characters ever to see print: Deathblow!

I know some Wildstorm characters were folded in the DCnU... has he?
Regardless, he does have his uses:

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Posted 12 November 2011 - 09:53 AM

And today, I found out Mattel did a single-carded version of the poseable DCIH Batman included in the many Public Enemies multipacks.

But this one sports a nicer bat-sigil, a nicer skintone on the face AND a nicer contrast between the gray and the black. And it comes with a spiffy button.
So naturally, best I can figure, it's hella rare:
http://gofigureactio...roduct9532.html

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 11:31 AM

Wow, the DC Club Starman will be getting a bonus head:

http://www.itsalltrue.net/?p=15408

Mattel listening to fan requests? I have the vapors!
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Posted 17 November 2011 - 11:27 AM

Terry looks quite odd done in the mainstream DC style, imho.

I have seen the 12-inch Movie Hal Jordan, and man, that is one ugly toy. Light-up feature actually looks quite cool, but it is just overall not as articulated as a toy of such height should be.

I know I am probably the only one collecting the line, but... any news of that supposed third Mattycollector GL Movie Masters toy? Still hoping for Stel, or Hannu...
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Posted 17 November 2011 - 11:31 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Nov 17 2011, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have seen the 12-inch Movie Hal Jordan, and man, that is one ugly toy. Light-up feature actually looks quite cool, but it is just overall not as articulated as a toy of such height should be.

It's something I've noticed more and more of late, but it seems toy companies have now decided that the bigger the toy, the lesser the articulation.

Hasbro's been doing the same with its larger Marvel toys.

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Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:44 PM

Matty Black Friday sale:

http://www.mattycoll...eme/pbPage.News


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Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:14 PM

Thanks to finding a capeless Robin in a DCIH lot I needed to fill gaps in my collection, I managed to make a human-form Beast Boy!
Took a few liberties with the color scheme since the details varied depending on the era/medium.


Edited by Detour, 28 November 2011 - 01:05 AM.

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Posted 24 November 2011 - 02:24 PM

Got a few DC toys today, decided to fool around and take some photos...



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Posted 25 November 2011 - 12:29 PM

Heh, good ones!
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 05:38 PM

The Bat-family keeps it real in the Batcave!

Hopefully I can find good base parts for Oracle so she can join them.


As an aside, I love this little playset. It doesn't take up much space because everything closes up into a small case, and it has tons of neat details. I'll have to do some mods, like removing the sticker of Bruce Wayne's action figure from the rotating wall and painting the bat-gadgets on the wall and the workbench.

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