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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 Skullgrin2014

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:26 AM

I was thinking about this just right now.


Considering we got weapon sets in energon and we get mech tech weapons with Dotm and hasbro tends to do exclusive 2-pack / 3-packs around movie time.


We also tend to get some sets that are like this for classics, TF Prime and WFC.


And, we've gotten sets with The TF prime kids, or a matrix with the Rodimus and Cyclonus set.


it got me to thinking. How come we don't get a set at that price that can come with an actual figure stand that could double as something. Like lets say an armory for people to peg accessories. 5 mm pegs etc.


Or even a stackable figure stand that could combine with other sets. To form a carrying case for things like Minicons or 5-mm weapons.



I just figure it would be neat. I always sort of wanted a detailed armory type thing that could come with some weapons sets.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 11:02 PM

Why?

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 08:33 AM

There's some Gundam stands and weapons coming out that COULD possibly be crossed over. Don't know if it'd work, or how well, but it may be the closest there is for the moment.
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#4 Skullgrin2014

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:45 AM

Why? It just makes sense that eventually you may as well have something you could use to optimize shelving displays, and places to put weapons and missiles. Which is lucrative enough to actually improve spacing and play of a collection.


It may as well be something designed with the actual toys in mind. I mean GiJoes get those peg stands. I'm surprised we never get painted floor stands with pegholes for TF's to stand on.




Plus I still love the concept of a Minicon prison/box. I mean they could sell individually packed minicons with both red and purple transformable containers. That can double as a stackable interconnectable shelving system and small little playset stands.


It it were designed right it wouldn't look stupid or clunky at all. It would actually be a great way to organize the figures. And which faction you prefer to keep them on.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:47 AM

Most TFs are designed to stand under their own power without stands.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:49 AM

Yeah, uh, the 'why' is basically that very few people, especially in the primary audience, want that.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 10:49 AM

It would help if Hasbro had the common sense to put a Joe sized hole in the feet of Transformers who needed it. They did that back during the Micromasters so they could stand on their bases.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:10 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Nov 6 2011, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would help if Hasbro had the common sense to put a Joe sized hole in the feet of Transformers who needed it.

*Looks at shelf upon shelf of free-standing Transformers*

Which ones are those?

Even assuming they did need them, the vast majority of Transformers don't have feet capable of accepting any sort of standardized hole. Often the foot itself has at least one point of transformation that prevents such a thing, or is hollow on the underside--more production cost on more plastic in places the figure doesn't actually need it.

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They did that back during the Micromasters so they could stand on their bases.

Well, that's Micromasters. Action Masters had them too... but they also had bases/vehicles. Their reason for the feature was self-contained and doesn't apply across the board, what with a significant lack of playsets and vehicles.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:14 AM

yeah, stands don't work and aren't really needed for the line. even titans of Backheavy like classics Megatron and BW Tigerhawk have feet DESIGNED to compensate for it...

and there's no way guys like generations wheeljack need stands
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Nov 6 2011, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would help if Hasbro had the common sense to put a Joe sized hole in the feet of Transformers who needed it. They did that back during the Micromasters so they could stand on their bases.


QUOTE(Rust @ Nov 6 2011, 10:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most TFs are designed to stand under their own power without stands.

I'm not a fan of voting on peoples posts. it just seems very passive aggressive to click 'down vote' and not add anything to the thread. and up votes are exactly the same. to my mind the whole point of a forum is discussion and being able to just easily agree or disagree takes the discussion out of the equation.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:31 AM

I don't own a single Transformer who can't stand under its own power. The closest things to exceptions are RotF Arcee, who DID come with a stand and has the excuse of a creative design, and my Transmetal Airrazor, who simply has developed really loose hips over the years.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 12:25 PM

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okay okay sorry, pour taste

but yeah the whole "Giant robot" field in general lends itself to big feetitus since its a forced perspective aid


With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 04:44 PM

Unlike G. I. Joes, Transformers can stand on their own, even when the feet are tiny like Animated Blackarachnia... so there is zero point to having stands. They already tried that in a dumb way with Titaniums and I doubt most people ever took those out of the boxes.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 04:59 PM

Yeah, the only Transformers who tend to fall over do so because of weak joints at the ankle or above. And stands ain't gonna solve that worth jive.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 07:21 PM

I realize the issue that most figures can stand on their own.

The implication was more of creating a display stand that gives them a good detailed background. With an enviroment that feels like it's interactive with the toys. And, maybe something that can double as a weapons storage.


Sort of like with Bw's you could have nature scenery or one of the tunnels within the Axalon or Pred ship. And have some containers for weapons. With 5mm peg holes so you can store guns.

I just mean it would be a cool way to store the weapons you might want to switch between. Without having to throw a jumble of guns on a dresser or what not.


Maybe I haven't refined the idea enough. And maybe I haven't thought it out well.


But, im kind of thinking of doing it myself with the gundam display stands. Like just drilling 5 mm peg holes or creating shelving. To just put guns on a rack. And have it double as a stand.


Also, with displays I find some of my toys fall even if they were designed to stand well. I gues I'm just thinking something through to make displaying easier and more play interactive. I don't know. But I kind of want the toys to have a world to interact with. Maybe thats something fans need to do on their own I suppose.


As for the Titanium stands. Thats not what I was thinking of. I was thinking of stands that look more like detailed scenery.
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Posted 06 November 2011 - 09:27 PM

You're talking display bases and scenes. We're getting those in some of the Cyberverse stuff, in the form of cardboard diorama backdrops. The (full-size) HAs and some other guys (like the NYCC set) have similar.

Because at the end of the day, that's all you're looking at: a diorama. Even if you put some additional stuff on it, it's a backdrop. They're already giving a good dose of what you're looking for, but those generally don't justify something more than cardboard no matter how you might spice them up.


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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:01 PM

Even though we, as collectors, tend to keep our toys on the shelf 90% of the time, "place your toy here and don't move it" is not really part of the play-pattern Hasbro promotes.

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Posted 06 November 2011 - 11:12 PM

as is so often the case, we forget the kids are the main focus of the brand.


With Takara's current cheesecakey track record, I don't doubt she fires the Fusion Railgun on her back by bending over at the waist and blushing o//o

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 07:41 AM

it would be neat to see some more dynamic poses on shelves. Like I see with Gundam collectors. But I think it's better for everybody if fans just make their own stands rather than having them bundled with official toys. That would mean they're going to end up getting sold to a lot of people who don't want them.

And really, only a few Transformers are really articulated as the average Gundam model kit.
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Posted 08 November 2011 - 08:30 AM

If you really need stands, there are cheap doll stands available at craft stores that'll do the job. I'd rather the Transformers budgets go into the Transformers.



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