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@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.


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#1 Gridlock

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 02:34 PM

http://www.tfw2005.c...preview-173657/

How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P

Edited by Gridlock, 28 October 2011 - 02:38 PM.


#2 MrBlud

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 03:24 PM

Roberts handled this entire decompressed, terrible little arc SO MUCH BETTER in a four issues miniseries and actually used Transformers in a Transformers comic to make his point.

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#3 Mako Crab

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 06:00 PM

QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.tfw2005.c...preview-173657/

How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P

I know, right?

#4 D.M

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 07:16 PM

Those 7 pages look so insanely dull that I just haven't got any will to read the dialog.

They just stand around talking... for 7 freaking pages! icon-wildride.gif

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE(D.M @ Oct 28 2011, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those 7 pages look so insanely dull that I just haven't got any will to read the dialog.

They just stand around talking... for 7 freaking pages! icon-wildride.gif


I'd be willing to bet a good portion of the remaining pages go that way too. Costa clearly finds this all riveting.

-ZacWilliam, likely there'll be some breif action in there somewhere... Maybe... Right?

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#6 NICK TYRANNO

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 09:05 PM

Zac, you know better.

#7 Cattleprod

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 02:06 PM

I'm sure there'll be room for a fight scene in which half the characters established to be present never appear on panel.

#8 Echowarrior

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 03:49 PM

Comes across as dull, but not horrible.

Just saying.
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#9 LBD "Nytetrayn"

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 12:49 AM

I forget, who was it that was shown scrapped there?

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#10 Agent 113

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 04:08 AM

The one who was scrapped was Scrapper. Talk about irony.

#11 Skullgrin2014

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:21 AM

What gets to me is no only that it's just seven pages of talking. But the dialogue itself is dull in some places.

Magnus especially.


I like that their getting into human and Autobot relations in a realistic way. But it shouldn't feel this dull or strained.
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#12 Wildwade

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 02:49 PM

Is that supposed to be Ironfist's data-slug there on the table next to Spike?

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:48 PM

The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics. Don't get me wrong, I love BMB's stuff in TPB format, but if I had to read anything he wrote on a monthly basis I would go insane.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE(.Scourge. @ Oct 30 2011, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics.


Bull. 'Everyone else is doing it' should never be a valid defense. You know who writes comics that don't have those problems? James Roberts and John Barber, the guys we've been waiting to take over. The fact fan-preferred writers are coming on board should be the final nail for people insisting we should just sit back and accept an inferior product.

#15 Chip

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE(.Scourge. @ Oct 30 2011, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problems you guys are having with this comic are problems that are happening all over comics. Don't get me wrong, I love BMB's stuff in TPB format, but if I had to read anything he wrote on a monthly basis I would go insane.

Thing is, I've been seeing a conscious move away from this crap from the Big Two; even from Bendis. Besides which, bad is bad regardless of whether it's bad in a trendy way.

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#16 Chip

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 07:40 PM

With all the script gripes, there's not enough mention of how outstanding Brendan Cahill's art is. He does the robot faces so well. I hope IDW has a lot of work lined up for him.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 08:18 PM

Magnus feels really out of his IDW character here.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 09:21 AM

I actually liked this preview. Yes it has the typical ongoing/Costa problems of pacing (A particularly lethargic snail being the most apt comparison) but the little morality slow burn here actually works. It's just it would have worked as part one of this interminable storyline.

I agree with Spike, which is somewhat surprising seeing as he's been a thoroughly unlikeable strawman throughout most of the run. I also find myself agreeing, at least slightly with Prowl/Jazz, so it's interesting that neither character is clearly in the right (or obviously in the wrong) here.

Magnus does feel a little off. It feels like they've removed the Tyrest Accord stick he's had in his aft for the past 28 or so issues. It doesn't quite work, the plan seems a little hot-headed to come from Magnus. If it was from Jazz, Rodimus or even Streetwise I could see it, but not IDW Magnus (Who's been one of my favorite characters in the run)

The art's great, I can tell who's who, it flows clearly with the action (well "action") of the preview. Be interesting to see fi it holds up when stuff actually happens.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:00 AM

QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.tfw2005.c...preview-173657/

How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P


I said the same thing a few times - the way Prowl was written in the past IDW comics before Costa came along, he should be helping Spike to sweep the whole thing under the rug. Not to mention how internal human military matters are not really his responsibility.

Oh, and Costa never read AHM or its sequels? Skywatch killed off Thrust when he was buried under rubble, I guess that doesn't count as 'murder'. Neither did we hear about what happened to Agent Red and all his cronies, who, under the same organization, brainwashed and controlled Cybertronians, Grimlock included - something Prowl should find more worriesome. I wonder where ol' Grimmer is these days. Primus, I never thought I'd say this in the Furman days, but TF comics sure need a healthy dose of a well-written Grimlock now.

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Posted 02 November 2011 - 10:09 AM

QUOTE(Gridlock @ Oct 28 2011, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.tfw2005.c...preview-173657/

How bad is it, when I actualy agree with Spike? ;P


I'm not sure you're not supposed to. Not every writer depicts 100% villains and 100% heroes. This preview proves to me that the writer at least thinks Spike has a strong point.

Though, uh, I guess far be it from me to suggest that perceived moral depth isn't just some laughable mistake.



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