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@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:23 PM)

When someone stands next to say, Optimus Prime's leg it would just look like there's a large blue rectangle.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 08:21 PM)

In live-action, they would all look flat and underdetailed when they're supposed to be huge.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:32 PM)

I'm 90% sure they will be using more G1-ish designs in the reboot (if there'll be such a thing of course). They already used over-complicated movie designs, they'll return to G1.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 03:15 PM)

All I'm saying is when they reboot it, they might want to try something they never did in the screen and use G1-ish designs.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:57 PM)

Why? Would a classic G1 aesthetic make money?

@  ShadowMan024 : (20 August 2016 - 02:38 PM)

I don't think that switching to G1 would "correct" anything.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:22 PM)

I actually believe they would switch to G1 because I feel like the next director would try to correct 'wrongs' of the older movies.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 02:15 PM)

Also, if they get to the point of completely rebooting the movies with an entirely different aesthetic I highly doubt they'd switch specifically to G1.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

A design alone doesn't say anything. The designs and the setting together are what TFWiki would deliberate upon.

@  tffan01 : (20 August 2016 - 02:13 PM)

I know but a movie character would definitely gets his sub page because of the tie-ins, it would be far too long.


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#21 LoomX

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:13 AM

720p Youtube link here

Watching the intro again in HD I spotted somepony riding in the first carriage icon-fire.gif

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:15 AM

When you see it...

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:19 AM

Oh, wow, how did I miss a Dinky moment?

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE(Kein @ Oct 15 2011, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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I knew Derpy would be some where in that crowd and she did not disappoint. <3

Crowd?
She has a close-up: http://img641.images.../mayorderpy.jpg

Also chasing after Smartypants, Derpy heart-eyes and all icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:43 AM

This is EPIC. Fluttershy wrestling a bear, Rainbow Dash dropping the rainbow nuke, Rarity's couch... icon-hotrod.gif And of course, the many crazy antics of Twilight. Man, I missed this show during the summer.

Also, in one shot, we see Twilight and the others from above (first time, I think) - and that answers our old question - yes, ponies have cute mark on both sides. icon-hotrod.gif

And hey, they even put Derpy in the opening!
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 09:52 AM


Who are those ponies riding below her? Can't remember seeing them in any previous episodes.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:01 AM

Nope, they are new. I bet we'll have some "Old Ponies' Home" scene in an upcoming episode.

Man, must say, the huge pile of ponies (including the Mayor) all surrounding Big Macintosh will lead to a lot of fanfics of 'that' nature. But regardless, that scene was hilarious. Loved how Derpy gets her eyes derped back again once the spell is dispelled.

And besides all the fun in the episode, Celestia's talk at the end and the whole lesson was a quite heartwarming one. As a kid, I have been a model student myself, and I know what it feels like to be thinking that you have let your teacher/mentor down... when in truth you were just over-reacting.
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:07 AM

Okay, that was awesome. The Sonic RainBomb did it for me, as well as FS wrestling a bear. I like how Spike saved the day. Big Mac is golden, as he is every time we see him. And I actually really like Angry Celestia. We need more of her.

Of course, this was an important episode, because we can not get a lesson in every episode for the EI rating, without forcing Twilight to be in every episode.

Any idea where this goes in the timeline? I think summer, possibly before Dragon Shy. They don't seem to know eachother as well as in the DisQord Saga, and Fluttershy is still phobic of everything (according to Twilight)
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE(Sobana @ Oct 15 2011, 10:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, wow, how did I miss a Dinky moment?

And Ruby Pinch right behind her.

QUOTE(Kein @ Oct 15 2011, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And of course Celestia was awesome. Now she actually flies and even jumps.

It's not the first time she's flown. But it is the first time she's teleported.

But when she appeared, it was like an old 80's family-friendly alien movie, particularly ET when the ship returns for him. She's just throwing beams of light everywhere like air-to-ground search lights.

QUOTE(TM2 Dinobot @ Oct 15 2011, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any idea where this goes in the timeline? I think summer, possibly before Dragon Shy. They don't seem to know eachother as well as in the DisQord Saga, and Fluttershy is still phobic of everything (according to Twilight)

I'd say sometime in late/mid-spring. Possibly even after Winter Wrap-up. The weather's warming-up, the skies are clear and sunny. Why wouldn't they want to invoke the right of Spring Fever and have a picnic?
Also, Twilight's mind was slipping. She clearly wasn't having rational thoughts.


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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:18 AM

Who's Pluto?

Me, I hope we see the Lily-Daisy-Rose trio too soon. icon-hotrod.gif


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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:22 AM

Well, that was rather jarringly slapstick at points.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:44 AM

That was a GREAT episode. Crazy stressed out Twilight is hilarious.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 11:50 AM

I enjoyed that.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 12:40 PM

Pluto is now ignored, but the name still sticks.

Cosplay maybe? Show and tell snap on wings? A bigger Celestia fangirl than Twilight? Sneaking into Magic Kindergarden to spy on the unicrons?

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 12:46 PM

If she's a pegaspy, she needs a new name.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 12:52 PM

Class dunce, still considered smarter than remedial Twilight?
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Posted 15 October 2011 - 01:02 PM

Fake horn maybe? Or Twilight's imagination making her an alicorn? She wasn't really thinking straight throughout most of the episode.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 01:05 PM

Cloudsdale is sending pegaspies to infiltrate the Canterlot education system and learn the secrets of Celestia's School for Gifted (and Remedial) Unicorns.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 01:36 PM

QUOTE(DrSpengler @ Oct 15 2011, 02:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Holy CRAP.

This show just took acid.
And went to a very good place. Although Fluttershy's Bear Mistreatment looked a lot like Sibsy's work.

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Posted 15 October 2011 - 01:43 PM

I really enjoyed this one. The updated opening was good; it was about time the CMC were included in it. The facial expressions were priceless, and this definitely tops Swarm of the Century for how deranged we've seen Twilight. There were some seriously creepy vibes in her scene with the Crusaders, though, lol (unfortunately, a bit reminiscent of a certain fanon incarnation of Celestia)... and materializing inside the ball and destroying it seems almost like something Discord would do. She seemed extremely comfortable with teleporting in this episode, whenever it took place. I wonder if that kind of unhinged state of mind is one of the things that's more conducive for performing that kind of unusual magic. The Dinky and Ruby sightings were welcome, too; I hope we see more of both this season.

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