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@  TheMightyMol... : (01 October 2016 - 02:45 PM)

That's what she said?

@  Kalidor : (01 October 2016 - 01:30 PM)

If you're going to pick a sword to die on - make sure it isn't one of those tiny little cocktail swords

@  Bass X0 : (01 October 2016 - 01:16 PM)

What very specific prejudice.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 October 2016 - 12:28 PM)

This is kinda hilarious. And sad, but mostly hilarious.

@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 12:09 PM)

doubt it pal! keep on dreaming!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 October 2016 - 12:06 PM)

May you be serviced by the resident grammar police on whatever forum you claim you will flee to.

@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 12:02 PM)

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@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 11:58 AM)

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@  NotVeryKnightly : (01 October 2016 - 11:57 AM)

You have some horrible reasoning if you think somebody posting a thing in more than one place is somehow totally unacceptable, yet the way you're acting isn't counterintuitively annoying.

@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 11:52 AM)

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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 October 2016 - 11:43 AM)

Huh. That's certainly a different report.

@  Jalaguy : (01 October 2016 - 11:37 AM)

I'm gonna go ahead and clarify that "posting news about a TV crossover in the threads for the relevant TV shows" does not qualify as "spamming".

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 October 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Also, isn't posting in a spam thread often perceived to be support for said spam?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (01 October 2016 - 11:31 AM)

I can barely read the grammar in that post.

@  unluckiness : (01 October 2016 - 10:58 AM)

Shouldn't you like, take that up with the other moderators rather than the random passersby reading this thing? Considering that, going by your word, your apparent first response was to resort to defamation, it doesn't reflect well on your assertion of truth.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (01 October 2016 - 10:55 AM)

Did you report the spam through proper channels or did you just whinge about it in a thread?

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 October 2016 - 10:55 AM)

Right.

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 October 2016 - 10:55 AM)

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@  ShadowMan024 : (01 October 2016 - 10:54 AM)

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@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 10:44 AM)

the truth!

@  ShadowMan024 : (01 October 2016 - 10:41 AM)

what the hug did i just read

@  BillBarclay : (01 October 2016 - 10:38 AM)

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@  NightViper : (30 September 2016 - 08:38 PM)

*Snaps towel*

@  ShadowMan024 : (30 September 2016 - 06:10 PM)

FOOL! *points cane at NightViper*

@  NightViper : (30 September 2016 - 06:06 PM)

It's not "Fools of towel play"? Damn.

@  RichardT1977 : (30 September 2016 - 05:20 PM)

Huh, I always thought it was "tools of power play".

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:30 PM)

http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/133313-instruments-of-destruction-30th-anniversary-edition-youtube-video-and-legal-purchase-links-inside/

@  TheMightyMol... : (30 September 2016 - 03:18 PM)

tools of foul play

@  Nevermore : (30 September 2016 - 03:04 PM)

instruments of destruction

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:01 PM)

Maybe like how Megaempress and her 4 Guards showed up so many male Cybertrons and Destrons. *snerk*

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

Maybe as a female EDC officer who actually kicks his ass for a change.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

And Carly too.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 September 2016 - 03:00 PM)

I would be thrilled to see him in the IDW continuity in the near future.

@  zephyrX9 : (29 September 2016 - 02:56 PM)

when the hell is chip chase gonna come back?

@  Robowang : (29 September 2016 - 11:14 AM)

Like a letter to my mom from prison inmates!

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:29 PM)

Oh wait, I see it's been addressed.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 09:27 PM)

I was when I posted that, yeah. I'll let you know if it happens again.

@  Dracula : (28 September 2016 - 02:10 PM)

You're clicking on threads and they're redirecting to that?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (28 September 2016 - 01:05 PM)

Why do forum pages keep forwarding me to this? http://www.allsparkt...2VjMDYxZTQxYmVl

@  Broadside : (28 September 2016 - 12:05 PM)

Anyone know what the caption on this page refers to? http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Primon

@  RichardT1977 : (28 September 2016 - 09:53 AM)

After the season finale where RM Corp found a way to make thinking Bots, I was hoping for a continuation of the story where Paradim learned the hard way the downside of Bots that can say, "No."

@  Rycochet : (28 September 2016 - 09:40 AM)

I liked Phantom 2040 more.

@  Blues : (27 September 2016 - 05:08 PM)

I LOVE BOT MASTER SO MUCH. Too bad the toys sucked. I even own jungle fiver. I love him so much, but he can barely stand on his own.

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 September 2016 - 05:03 PM)

That's the 90s.

@  MEDdMI : (27 September 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Ninjzz? That's an unfortunate name.

@  Verity Carlo : (27 September 2016 - 04:44 PM)

Also I thought Fico Ossio was quite nice on Revolutions.

@  Rycochet : (27 September 2016 - 04:36 PM)

You know the planet is in a jam, a diabolical plan of only one man. Louis Leon Paradim an international punk, and his army of 3As are his piece of junk.

@  Telly : (27 September 2016 - 04:26 PM)

for the longest time i thought jungle fiver was called jungle fiBer

@  Bass X0 : (27 September 2016 - 04:21 PM)

Does anybody remember the cartoon Bots Master? I enjoyed the show but looking back on it, most of the robot designs were lame. The only cool designs were Jungle Fiver and Ninjzz although the toys were nothing compared to Transformers of course. I thought the main human characters were decent enough for a show about robots. 


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:09 PM

So I've consumed yet another SW novel. Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, written by the same gent who penned Darth Plagueius.

It was a good read, all things considered. It didn't "work" quite as well as Plagueius, but that's mainly because Anakin's motives for going to the Dark Side were shaky at best. As it stands, the guy does a decent job of getting into Vader's head and how he became the man he was in the Original Trilogy.

The Jedi characters introduced in the book are all good reads, and the author does a great job pointing out that for a order that preaches no attachments, the majority of them really were attached to the Order and what it stood for - and how they couldn't stand to lose it.

Chewbacca and the Wookies even show up in a way that makes sense, and we see the fall of their homeworld to Imperial aggression.


If Zahn "gets" the character dialogue, then this gentlemen "gets" the setting. While some of the dialogue (especially from Vader) comes across as clunky, the pacing and action are all very familiar. I'm seriously considering making Labyrinth of Evil as my next purchase. I like this guy's writing style and he's very subdued when it comes to the over the top Force abilities.

Plus no Blue Skinned Mary Sues. Always a plus. (I'm sorry, Outbound Flight just ruined Thrawn and the Chiss in general for me.)

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:48 PM

Hey, I happen to be reading that very book right now. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Vestras @ Jan 20 2012, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone read the Legacy era comics? I've caught little snippets while researching for SWTOR, and I'm thinking I might go try and find the trades next time I get some time off to go to my FLGS.


Legacy is, I think, bar none, the best Star Wars Comics that Dark Horse has done*. If Zahn gets characters and Plageus/Vader writer gets the setting, the Ostrander/Duursema combo get everything. It was so good, Lucas had the series killed to stop making the clone wars stuff look bad (unconfirmed)



*or perhaps HAD done, as starting this month, the Ostrander/Duursema team leave the future of Star Wars to go back to the very beginning to tell the story of THE DAWN OF THE JEDI. I've only read the 0 issue setting book so far, and it just wows!

(Ostrander also has a Rebellion era series called Agent of the Empire, which is basically the story of the Empire's James Bond...worth checking out).

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:36 PM

Interesting.

I wonder if they'll incorporate Bioware's contributions into how the Jedi were formed. Ever since learning of the history of Kaleth in The Old Republic - not to mention the first hand look you get if you play as a Jedi Consular - I've been interested to know the history behind the Force Wars. Especially since Ragavari (The first Dark Jedi/"Sith") is not a villain in your classic sense of the word.

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I mean, his Force Ghost still lingers in the Forge Ruins because he's determined to see the Jedi put back on the "proper" path and genuinely shows remorse for twisting the Nallen's mind.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:55 PM


In a related note: I devoured the Heir to the Empire trilogy when it first came out, because NEW Star Wars was amazing at the time. And they were good sci fi books, but they never, even then really felt like Star Wars to me. I stoped reading Star Wars books after a few years because I realized that none of it felt like Star Wars to me.

Star Wars had a very particular mix of swash-buckling adventure, engaging humor, fun, likeable characters, sci-fi, space opera, Fantasy, and Joeseph Campbel-style Myth. The books all felt like they maybe got one of those things or two at the best, but none of them had them all and without them all it wasn't really Star Wars in any way I wanted to read.

I'll be honest, the ONLY Star Wars fiction I've felt got it 100% right since the Original Trilogy is the first "Knights of the Old Republic" game. That was REAL Star Wars right up there with Empire. Nothing, including the prequels, has hit it right since.

Anyone read any Star Wars that they really felt had all those facets that made the original beloved?


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:41 PM

I think a big problem is the various writers can't agree on just what Star Wars is supposed to be. Most fans generally see it as a fairy tale happening in a sci-fi setting but the writers seem to just see the sci-fi setting which leads to the 'Everything the Skywalkers went through was for nothing' setting of the later books. Because apparently sci-fi HAS to be depressing and grim or you aren't doing it right. Doesn't help that Lucasfilm seem to let the writers do certain things and then handwave with "It fits because we're the license holder and we say so". I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner. Instead, it's like the clusterhug of various people crying "MY original character is more relevant to the developing mythos!"

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:02 PM

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I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner.


Why do you think I "retreated" to the Movie Timeline after Outbound Flight?

I enjoy books that expand on what was seen on the screen/fill in the gaps. I'm not exactly brimming with enthusiasm to plunge headlong into the EU Quagmire that results in what appears to be the Deaths of Everyone and Anyone not directly associated with said movies (Chewbacca being a notable exception), Super Weapons more powerful then the Death Star floating about the cosmos, and a new Galactic Spanning Threat around every Star System.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Feb 25 2012, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(HellCat @ Feb 25 2012, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner.


Why do you think I "retreated" to the Movie Timeline after Outbound Flight?

I enjoy books that expand on what was seen on the screen/fill in the gaps. I'm not exactly brimming with enthusiasm to plunge headlong into the EU Quagmire that results in what appears to be the Deaths of Everyone and Anyone not directly associated with said movies (Chewbacca being a notable exception), Super Weapons more powerful then the Death Star floating about the cosmos, and a new Galactic Spanning Threat around every Star System.


Actually I think the Sun Crusher was about the only one technical superweapon stronger than the Death Star. Every other one was some sort of derivative of the Death Star or something world destroying to a lesser degree. That's where the EU was getting stale for a while. It was always Empire warlord or such with some sort of death star wannabe and somehow Luke and Co. were expected to fix it. And really there are very few deaths really until the NJO and by that time it was about dang time. True the NJO just changed the face of the enemy and the superweapons but it made the characters vulnerable again.

I'm just pissed that none of the main characters have been killed yet. I know it sounds a bit harsh but we are currently sitting at about where Luke and Leia are about 63 and Han and Lando ought to be 70 or so. I know they are the classic characters everyone loves but with all the crud they have been through they need to pass the torch to the next gen already. Yes the different medical abilities of the world can sustain them longer than they could normally but anymore it seems like the novels are just prolonging the inevitable. I mean after Chewie Died in the beginning of the NJO, R.A. Salvatore got death threats for being the author of it, so I can see why people might be a bit hesitant. But I do want to see Jaina, Ben, Allanna and maybe Chance take up the roles someday.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Daith @ Feb 25 2012, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm just pissed that none of the main characters have been killed yet. I know it sounds a bit harsh but we are currently sitting at about where Luke and Leia are about 63 and Han and Lando ought to be 70 or so. I know they are the classic characters everyone loves but with all the crud they have been through they need to pass the torch to the next gen already. Yes the different medical abilities of the world can sustain them longer than they could normally but anymore it seems like the novels are just prolonging the inevitable. I mean after Chewie Died in the beginning of the NJO, R.A. Salvatore got death threats for being the author of it, so I can see why people might be a bit hesitant. But I do want to see Jaina, Ben, Allanna and maybe Chance take up the roles someday.


That's the opposite of what I'd like to see.

I agree with Hellcat I want a Star Wars thats like the original trillogy, a fairy tale in a fun swashbuckling space costume. At the very least epic Fantasy in said dressing. These are not characters I ever want to see grow old or die.

What would it take to interest me in a Star Wars novel again? Throw out everything, EVERYTHING, after Return of the Jedi, get a good writer that really understands this sort of fantasy and then go back to telling the sort of fun, mythic-fairy tale swashbuckling sci-fi-fantasy that made the original movies great. If, after a bit, you want to jump to a future setting where the main characters are retired and their children are having said fun swashbuckling adventures for a couple books, sure, but mostly I want fiction that feels like Star Wars.


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

Personally, I have zero interest in the 'new generation'. In my mind, Star Wars ends with that group shot on Endor. The EU has made SOME valid criticisms of that ending (the Empire by all rights should still own the galaxy) but none of the characters really spoke to me. Especially not after they started killing off the Solo kids.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

I'm beginning to see the audience Quesada had Spider-Man go through for the One More Day/Brand New Day era. I don't mind seeing stories about the OT era but really none of that grips me as much anymore. I already know what happens eventually. Any stories then lead to the end of Return of the Jedi. It gives me more backstory true but eventually I want the story to move forward. Killing the Solo kids was a bit offputting but any fantasy story has a bit of death involved eventually for some of the main characters. I'll admit Han during the beginning to late mid point of the NJO was grating but it was new territory at least.

Despite what I said above I do enjoy the continuing adventure of the main cast but every story needs shaking at points. Chewies death in the NJO was one. While it put off a great deal of people it renewed my interest. Though frankly It is getting annoying with these multi-year story arcs as of the last decade. Hopefully they lay off after Fate of the Jedi
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:17 PM

I think you're right, I'm just saying that personally the writers have done nothing to interest me in seeing these new characters take over. Pretty much every EU character for me exists in a state of 'They exist' and that's it. They keep pumping out books starring them but nothing they actually do makes me want to see them significantly step into the spotlight. Compare that to Clone Wars, which is alot of fun and actuall feels consistent with the tone of the movies. Really, that's one of my biggest problems with the books- they're supposed to be Star Wars For Adults, when the movies were always fun kid adventure films. I don't like them for the same reason I don't like the various twaddle getting comissioned by Sci-Fi Channel/Sy Fy. If I felt these stories were the legit next part of the tale I'd be interested. Instead, I just view them as poorly written cash grabs. I mean, does anyone bar geeks like us know about characters like Winter and if they do do they even care about them?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Daith @ Feb 25 2012, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm beginning to see the audience Quesada had Spider-Man go through for the One More Day/Brand New Day era. I don't mind seeing stories about the OT era but really none of that grips me as much anymore.


Ironic, that. Since Queseda just wanted to restore Spidey to a earlier Status Quo then before.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

Happy to agree with a couple of the posters above - "my" Star Wars has always been a swashbuckling fantasy that doesn't take itself entirely seriously. Any time it ventures into hard sci-fi or goes all grim and gritty, it's just not SW to me.
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