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@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 10:54 AM)

nah! it's Venus that's going to Botcon!

@  Paladin : (11 February 2016 - 10:45 AM)

could've also meant Cree Summer...

@  Dracula : (11 February 2016 - 08:39 AM)

Good going, Blackarachnia. I heard it's been hard for her to get roles after Hasbro brought in Airachnid.

@  BillBarclay : (11 February 2016 - 06:34 AM)

you mean Venus Terzo! she's supposed to be going to Botcon

@  Whirl Maximus : (11 February 2016 - 03:23 AM)

Blackarachnia was on Supernatural last night.

@  Plokatron : (10 February 2016 - 11:08 PM)

Ponderous slagging ponderous. Hey anyone got some good Hi-res captures of Ironhide in Infestation? I really need close ups of his head for reference on a project.

@  Plokatron : (09 February 2016 - 10:46 PM)

Ok now this is funny. I ordered a used copy of HoS GN and the one I got was a library copy once. It's marked Union County on it. Thats my home county. :D It never was in my library though. Mine is named after the man who built it not the town or county but still kinda funny.

@  Tm_Silverclaw : (09 February 2016 - 09:44 PM)

Is it sad I read "KF7 Soviet" as "KFC7 Soviet"?

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:38 PM)

Neat.

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 03:35 PM)

A what? Oh, you must mean a KF7 Soviet. Common mistake.

@  TheMightyMol... : (09 February 2016 - 03:22 PM)

Can I just get an AK-47 instead?

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 02:35 PM)

this is form 47-a. you want form 47-A. start again

@  MEDdMI : (09 February 2016 - 02:07 PM)

Now you didn't fill the form in black or blue ink. Do it again.

@  Rycochet : (09 February 2016 - 02:04 PM)

You made a typo on the first page of the forms, you're going to have to go back and fill the whole form out again, from first to final.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 01:31 PM)

"bats"

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 01:09 PM)

Nice and soft, you say? This isn't even my final form!!!!

@  Telly : (09 February 2016 - 12:47 PM)

its nice and soft like YOU dracula *bats eyelashes* and thatll probly be the last thing i post in this thing now lol

@  Dracula : (09 February 2016 - 08:52 AM)

It's course and rough...wait that doesn't work

@  NotVeryKnightly : (09 February 2016 - 08:43 AM)

It gets everywhere?

@  Paladin : (09 February 2016 - 07:57 AM)

i hate snow.

@  BillBarclay : (08 February 2016 - 04:58 PM)

btw one of the Transformers Victory intro's(not the original music used) on YouTube uses one of the pieces of music used on the US version of Transformers Armada

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:55 PM)

You should read it again, it gets better with age!

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 03:46 PM)

I am fully aware of that story and mentioning it carries the penalty of fifty towel snaps.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 03:31 PM)

Shh, it's a trap!

@  TheMightyMol... : (08 February 2016 - 02:48 PM)

See, you said "awesome" and "The Beast" in the same sentence, and I think you broke my mind with the contradiction.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:42 PM)

No-one tell Whirl about the awesome dinobot combiner, The Beast.

@  Plokatron : (08 February 2016 - 02:37 PM)

@Dracula Uh oh were in trouble.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 02:36 PM)

If you think that's cool, wait until you see what other stuff we're hiding from you.

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 02:33 PM)

Transformers Victory's intro is awesome. And not one of you told me.... WHY?!!!

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

It doesn't count those using it on other pages.

@  Rycochet : (08 February 2016 - 10:43 AM)

If it's the one by IPB Shoutbox, it means the number of people who are viewing the Shoutbox page.

@  tffan01 : (08 February 2016 - 10:34 AM)

Where's the red numbers?

@  Lush City : (08 February 2016 - 09:23 AM)

Ok total newb to the shoutbox, but what do the red numbers in the corner mean?

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Thought it would lead to hi jinks and a lark like that movie Idiocracy instead it turned into something disturbing and traumatic like that movie Small Soldiers.

@  Dracula : (08 February 2016 - 08:55 AM)

You used MUNITION CHIPS in TOYS??

@  tffan01 : (08 February 2016 - 08:02 AM)

hi

@  Robowang : (08 February 2016 - 07:58 AM)

SEX

@  Whirl Maximus : (08 February 2016 - 07:48 AM)

I got bruticus limbs at FP last monday and Onslaught on Friday. Huge mistake, I inserted an X1000 microprocessor in each one and a extra for Bruticus, and they mopped the floor with the rest of my CW collection.

@  BillBarclay : (08 February 2016 - 06:18 AM)

i already got those(Scattershot & Onslaught) from Smyths Toys here in the UK, Asda's supposed to have the RID Warrior Class figures in(Megatronus, Blue Optimus Prime ect)

@  Plokatron : (08 February 2016 - 02:07 AM)

Yeah glad I ain't a bug or a bowwow. Hahaha

@  Plokatron : (08 February 2016 - 02:07 AM)

@Lisbon Virgo "I'm a black widow spider, you idiot! ...I can do both."

@  Daith : (08 February 2016 - 12:39 AM)

Better than still sitting on Cyclonus and Hot Spot

@  Telly : (07 February 2016 - 11:09 PM)

almost got excited earlier. my walmart got a new batch of cw voyagers in: onslaught and...scattershot :(

@  Smokey : (07 February 2016 - 09:08 PM)

San would probably like to die during sex.

@  MEDdMI : (07 February 2016 - 03:14 PM)

*clicks the non-existing Like button 100 times*

@  unluckiness : (07 February 2016 - 03:12 PM)

Is that Voldemort's Mini-Me?

@  MEDdMI : (07 February 2016 - 03:11 PM)

La petite mort https://en.m.wikiped.../La_petite_mort

@  Lisbon Virgo : (07 February 2016 - 02:38 PM)

Well, the idea of dying during sex sounds appealing until you realize it involves crushed pelvises...

@  Paladin : (07 February 2016 - 08:21 AM)

TripleDent Gum, will make you smile...

@  Pennpenn : (06 February 2016 - 10:34 PM)

I do love how they did the "Death! ...by snu-snu!" scene, with Fry and Brannigan's expressions shifting between horrified and delighted.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:09 PM

So I've consumed yet another SW novel. Dark Lord: The Rise of Darth Vader, written by the same gent who penned Darth Plagueius.

It was a good read, all things considered. It didn't "work" quite as well as Plagueius, but that's mainly because Anakin's motives for going to the Dark Side were shaky at best. As it stands, the guy does a decent job of getting into Vader's head and how he became the man he was in the Original Trilogy.

The Jedi characters introduced in the book are all good reads, and the author does a great job pointing out that for a order that preaches no attachments, the majority of them really were attached to the Order and what it stood for - and how they couldn't stand to lose it.

Chewbacca and the Wookies even show up in a way that makes sense, and we see the fall of their homeworld to Imperial aggression.


If Zahn "gets" the character dialogue, then this gentlemen "gets" the setting. While some of the dialogue (especially from Vader) comes across as clunky, the pacing and action are all very familiar. I'm seriously considering making Labyrinth of Evil as my next purchase. I like this guy's writing style and he's very subdued when it comes to the over the top Force abilities.

Plus no Blue Skinned Mary Sues. Always a plus. (I'm sorry, Outbound Flight just ruined Thrawn and the Chiss in general for me.)

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:48 PM

Hey, I happen to be reading that very book right now. icon-hotrod.gif

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

QUOTE(Vestras @ Jan 20 2012, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyone read the Legacy era comics? I've caught little snippets while researching for SWTOR, and I'm thinking I might go try and find the trades next time I get some time off to go to my FLGS.


Legacy is, I think, bar none, the best Star Wars Comics that Dark Horse has done*. If Zahn gets characters and Plageus/Vader writer gets the setting, the Ostrander/Duursema combo get everything. It was so good, Lucas had the series killed to stop making the clone wars stuff look bad (unconfirmed)



*or perhaps HAD done, as starting this month, the Ostrander/Duursema team leave the future of Star Wars to go back to the very beginning to tell the story of THE DAWN OF THE JEDI. I've only read the 0 issue setting book so far, and it just wows!

(Ostrander also has a Rebellion era series called Agent of the Empire, which is basically the story of the Empire's James Bond...worth checking out).

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 10:36 PM

Interesting.

I wonder if they'll incorporate Bioware's contributions into how the Jedi were formed. Ever since learning of the history of Kaleth in The Old Republic - not to mention the first hand look you get if you play as a Jedi Consular - I've been interested to know the history behind the Force Wars. Especially since Ragavari (The first Dark Jedi/"Sith") is not a villain in your classic sense of the word.

HIGHLIGHT to view:
I mean, his Force Ghost still lingers in the Forge Ruins because he's determined to see the Jedi put back on the "proper" path and genuinely shows remorse for twisting the Nallen's mind.

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 11:55 PM


In a related note: I devoured the Heir to the Empire trilogy when it first came out, because NEW Star Wars was amazing at the time. And they were good sci fi books, but they never, even then really felt like Star Wars to me. I stoped reading Star Wars books after a few years because I realized that none of it felt like Star Wars to me.

Star Wars had a very particular mix of swash-buckling adventure, engaging humor, fun, likeable characters, sci-fi, space opera, Fantasy, and Joeseph Campbel-style Myth. The books all felt like they maybe got one of those things or two at the best, but none of them had them all and without them all it wasn't really Star Wars in any way I wanted to read.

I'll be honest, the ONLY Star Wars fiction I've felt got it 100% right since the Original Trilogy is the first "Knights of the Old Republic" game. That was REAL Star Wars right up there with Empire. Nothing, including the prequels, has hit it right since.

Anyone read any Star Wars that they really felt had all those facets that made the original beloved?


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:41 PM

I think a big problem is the various writers can't agree on just what Star Wars is supposed to be. Most fans generally see it as a fairy tale happening in a sci-fi setting but the writers seem to just see the sci-fi setting which leads to the 'Everything the Skywalkers went through was for nothing' setting of the later books. Because apparently sci-fi HAS to be depressing and grim or you aren't doing it right. Doesn't help that Lucasfilm seem to let the writers do certain things and then handwave with "It fits because we're the license holder and we say so". I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner. Instead, it's like the clusterhug of various people crying "MY original character is more relevant to the developing mythos!"

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE(HellCat @ Feb 25 2012, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner.


Why do you think I "retreated" to the Movie Timeline after Outbound Flight?

I enjoy books that expand on what was seen on the screen/fill in the gaps. I'm not exactly brimming with enthusiasm to plunge headlong into the EU Quagmire that results in what appears to be the Deaths of Everyone and Anyone not directly associated with said movies (Chewbacca being a notable exception), Super Weapons more powerful then the Death Star floating about the cosmos, and a new Galactic Spanning Threat around every Star System.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(Rust @ Feb 25 2012, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(HellCat @ Feb 25 2012, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you collected some writers who really got the spirit of Star Wars and wanted to tell good stories that expanded on the movies you'd be on to a real winner.


Why do you think I "retreated" to the Movie Timeline after Outbound Flight?

I enjoy books that expand on what was seen on the screen/fill in the gaps. I'm not exactly brimming with enthusiasm to plunge headlong into the EU Quagmire that results in what appears to be the Deaths of Everyone and Anyone not directly associated with said movies (Chewbacca being a notable exception), Super Weapons more powerful then the Death Star floating about the cosmos, and a new Galactic Spanning Threat around every Star System.


Actually I think the Sun Crusher was about the only one technical superweapon stronger than the Death Star. Every other one was some sort of derivative of the Death Star or something world destroying to a lesser degree. That's where the EU was getting stale for a while. It was always Empire warlord or such with some sort of death star wannabe and somehow Luke and Co. were expected to fix it. And really there are very few deaths really until the NJO and by that time it was about dang time. True the NJO just changed the face of the enemy and the superweapons but it made the characters vulnerable again.

I'm just pissed that none of the main characters have been killed yet. I know it sounds a bit harsh but we are currently sitting at about where Luke and Leia are about 63 and Han and Lando ought to be 70 or so. I know they are the classic characters everyone loves but with all the crud they have been through they need to pass the torch to the next gen already. Yes the different medical abilities of the world can sustain them longer than they could normally but anymore it seems like the novels are just prolonging the inevitable. I mean after Chewie Died in the beginning of the NJO, R.A. Salvatore got death threats for being the author of it, so I can see why people might be a bit hesitant. But I do want to see Jaina, Ben, Allanna and maybe Chance take up the roles someday.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE(Daith @ Feb 25 2012, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm just pissed that none of the main characters have been killed yet. I know it sounds a bit harsh but we are currently sitting at about where Luke and Leia are about 63 and Han and Lando ought to be 70 or so. I know they are the classic characters everyone loves but with all the crud they have been through they need to pass the torch to the next gen already. Yes the different medical abilities of the world can sustain them longer than they could normally but anymore it seems like the novels are just prolonging the inevitable. I mean after Chewie Died in the beginning of the NJO, R.A. Salvatore got death threats for being the author of it, so I can see why people might be a bit hesitant. But I do want to see Jaina, Ben, Allanna and maybe Chance take up the roles someday.


That's the opposite of what I'd like to see.

I agree with Hellcat I want a Star Wars thats like the original trillogy, a fairy tale in a fun swashbuckling space costume. At the very least epic Fantasy in said dressing. These are not characters I ever want to see grow old or die.

What would it take to interest me in a Star Wars novel again? Throw out everything, EVERYTHING, after Return of the Jedi, get a good writer that really understands this sort of fantasy and then go back to telling the sort of fun, mythic-fairy tale swashbuckling sci-fi-fantasy that made the original movies great. If, after a bit, you want to jump to a future setting where the main characters are retired and their children are having said fun swashbuckling adventures for a couple books, sure, but mostly I want fiction that feels like Star Wars.


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Posted 25 February 2012 - 05:52 PM

Personally, I have zero interest in the 'new generation'. In my mind, Star Wars ends with that group shot on Endor. The EU has made SOME valid criticisms of that ending (the Empire by all rights should still own the galaxy) but none of the characters really spoke to me. Especially not after they started killing off the Solo kids.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

I'm beginning to see the audience Quesada had Spider-Man go through for the One More Day/Brand New Day era. I don't mind seeing stories about the OT era but really none of that grips me as much anymore. I already know what happens eventually. Any stories then lead to the end of Return of the Jedi. It gives me more backstory true but eventually I want the story to move forward. Killing the Solo kids was a bit offputting but any fantasy story has a bit of death involved eventually for some of the main characters. I'll admit Han during the beginning to late mid point of the NJO was grating but it was new territory at least.

Despite what I said above I do enjoy the continuing adventure of the main cast but every story needs shaking at points. Chewies death in the NJO was one. While it put off a great deal of people it renewed my interest. Though frankly It is getting annoying with these multi-year story arcs as of the last decade. Hopefully they lay off after Fate of the Jedi
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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:17 PM

I think you're right, I'm just saying that personally the writers have done nothing to interest me in seeing these new characters take over. Pretty much every EU character for me exists in a state of 'They exist' and that's it. They keep pumping out books starring them but nothing they actually do makes me want to see them significantly step into the spotlight. Compare that to Clone Wars, which is alot of fun and actuall feels consistent with the tone of the movies. Really, that's one of my biggest problems with the books- they're supposed to be Star Wars For Adults, when the movies were always fun kid adventure films. I don't like them for the same reason I don't like the various twaddle getting comissioned by Sci-Fi Channel/Sy Fy. If I felt these stories were the legit next part of the tale I'd be interested. Instead, I just view them as poorly written cash grabs. I mean, does anyone bar geeks like us know about characters like Winter and if they do do they even care about them?

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Daith @ Feb 25 2012, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm beginning to see the audience Quesada had Spider-Man go through for the One More Day/Brand New Day era. I don't mind seeing stories about the OT era but really none of that grips me as much anymore.


Ironic, that. Since Queseda just wanted to restore Spidey to a earlier Status Quo then before.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:25 PM

Happy to agree with a couple of the posters above - "my" Star Wars has always been a swashbuckling fantasy that doesn't take itself entirely seriously. Any time it ventures into hard sci-fi or goes all grim and gritty, it's just not SW to me.
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