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@  Whirl Maximus : (29 July 2016 - 01:20 PM)

IDW G1 has been a victim of it's own success.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 01:23 AM)

Though frankly I prefer IDW Ratchet with a Marvel-style head rather than his current Prime-style head.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (29 July 2016 - 12:34 AM)

Like dual Fall of Cybertron-IDW G1 designs.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:55 PM)

And it at least shows that they're allowed to repurpose designs from other universes.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 10:54 PM)

Dark Cybertron was around when things showing up in toyline and comic together became a really major thing.

@  Waspinator : (28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM)

Given that that Starscream says "Armada Starscream" on his box, I assume the toy was meant to be Armada Starscream and was just re-purposed by IDW to be a body for their Starscream.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (28 July 2016 - 09:24 PM)

Hey, Bass X0. It's nice to see somene else paying attention to the distinctions.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:44 PM)

Also, Albino Prime that isn't Magnus.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 06:43 PM)

They made a toy that was IDW Starscream with an entirely Armada look.

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:53 PM)

Other than a change of gimmicks and physical appearance (i.e. Deluxe Galvatron), Hasbro generally keeps a familiar color scheme for the Generations toys. It may not always be perfect or completely accurate, but I can't think of a Generations toy that looks completely different in color scheme to how they should do. A quick l;ook around my room and I can't see anyone who is completely the wrong color scheme. I'd say the FoC Combaticons and Wreckers are the wrong colors, but they're not supposed to be the G1 characters so they get a pass.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (28 July 2016 - 05:45 PM)

The comics aren't beholden to previous G1 material, and the toyline doesn't have a strict need to follow the comics either so...

@  Bass X0 : (28 July 2016 - 05:40 PM)

And yet the comics are not damned. This is G1 Sentinel Prime, not Animated or Movie Sentinel Prime and so he should look the part to how G1 Sentinel Prime has been portrayed so far. An Animated Sentinel Prime color scheme can come later. I don't recall how important the G1 legacy of Primes (Convoys) is in Japan or even if they have Nova Prime, Sentinel Prime, and previous Primes. So maybe Takara will paint him as Animated Sentinel just because its what Japanese fans are most familiar with.  Sentinel Prime didn't have to have been a pre-use of the Astrotrain mold, indeed why even choose G1 Sentinel Prime at all after how long neglecting him?

@  OrionPax44 : (28 July 2016 - 02:02 PM)

Same here unluckiness. I bought him mostly for the Fire Guts look of the Titan Master.

@  unluckiness : (28 July 2016 - 08:38 AM)

I kinda like Fire Guts Sentinel Prime TBH. Though, I think the gray would have looked better as black.

@  Boomhauer : (28 July 2016 - 08:36 AM)

I would've been fine with the Bayformers 3 Sentinel colors, he looked slick.

@  Whirl Maximus : (28 July 2016 - 08:33 AM)

Same as Animated Sentinel Prime then, I bet he's a Functionist fundamentalist too!

@  Rycochet : (28 July 2016 - 08:07 AM)

Sentinel Prime's colour scheme is awful, they should have painted him in his animated deco, comics be damned.

@  Dracula : (28 July 2016 - 07:38 AM)

He's also orange

@  Paladin : (28 July 2016 - 07:23 AM)

kinda not enjoying my TR Sentinel Prime now that someone summed up his personality as "Make Cybertron Great Again."

@  OrionPax44 : (27 July 2016 - 04:51 PM)

Sounds pretty kinky.

@  Whirl Maximus : (27 July 2016 - 04:17 PM)

the wind blew the sun into the river. honest!

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 12:34 PM)

Sadly no orchestra for me, but we did have the TFA clip as well.

@  ChessPieceFace : (27 July 2016 - 12:17 PM)

I saw Weird Al at the Hollywood Bowl on Saturday, playing with a full orchestra. It was pretty special. And yes, Dare To Be Stupid! With an introductory video clip from TFA, no less.

@  Vexwing : (27 July 2016 - 11:33 AM)

Got to see Weird Al perform Dare to be Stupid in his set last night! That was a nice surprise.

@  LBD "Nyt... : (27 July 2016 - 01:40 AM)

TMW you see a bunch of people have liked something you posted while you were away, and you're like "what did I even say?!"

@  Bass X0 : (26 July 2016 - 05:26 PM)

Regarding MTMTE#55 being released early in some places, its okay to discuss the contents of the issue as long as spoilers are kept within the thread. I refuse to read discussion threads of comics I have yet to read to avoid being spoiled. I also find it pointless to go into a discussion thread and expect to not be spoiled if you have yet to read the issue (unless you don't care).

@  The Doctor Who : (26 July 2016 - 07:11 AM)

@Patchy 'cause people like how the kaiser rolls!

@  MEDdMI : (26 July 2016 - 05:47 AM)

I'm officially addicted to the Comics theme. Every other themes are dull and boring now, I can't stand to look at them for more than a few posts.

@  Broadside : (26 July 2016 - 03:59 AM)

"Beast Wars anniversary"? Highly dubious.

@  Patchouli Kn... : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

How come everybody wanna keep it like the kaiser?

@  zephyrX9 : (26 July 2016 - 12:16 AM)

the kaiser stole our beast wars toys

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 08:35 PM)

beast wars dicketeth anniversary

@  Locoman : (25 July 2016 - 07:16 PM)

My story begins in nineteen-dickety-two. We had to say "dickety" because the Kaiser had stolen our word "twenty". I chased that rascal to get it back, but gave up after dickety-six miles.

@  Telly : (25 July 2016 - 05:21 PM)

its the rye of the kaiser its the thrill of the the fight

@  ▲ndrusi : (25 July 2016 - 05:18 PM)

Fierce Grape?

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 05:09 PM)

The Rye or the Kaiser.

@  tffan01 : (25 July 2016 - 04:55 PM)

watch?v=gyKOM3469_Y I've found this weird kids video.

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:20 PM)

Doozer Sticks

@  The Doctor Who : (25 July 2016 - 04:19 PM)

Fraggle Rock!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 04:18 PM)

Happy Pop (nauseating just saying it)

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 03:51 PM)

Hard Rock Hallelujah!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 03:48 PM)

Soggy Rock

@  Dracula : (25 July 2016 - 02:36 PM)

Tank Concrete!

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

the Third.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:16 PM)

Flint Chesthair!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 July 2016 - 02:12 PM)

Sheeps Butt Ramsbottom

@  MEDdMI : (25 July 2016 - 02:08 PM)

Fancypants

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 July 2016 - 02:01 PM)

Biggles.

@  Summer : (25 July 2016 - 01:55 PM)

Jones.

@  PlutoniumBoss : (25 July 2016 - 12:08 PM)

Osmosis.


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#1 Random Items

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:09 AM

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The reason is a negotiating impasse between the studio and the six principal actors who voice the beloved characters on the animated series that hilariously satirizes middle-class Midwestern angst.

Difficult bargaining is nothing new for the show, which was created by James L. Brooks and Matt Groening. Fox studio execs have occasionally threatened to replace uncooperative cast members with sound-alike actors. But for the first time in nearly a quarter century of haggling, the executives have insisted that if the cast doesn?t accept a draconian 45 percent pay cut, The Simpsons will die an abrupt death as a first-run series.


You might remember actor Troy McClure once said "the Simpsons have come a long way since an old drunk made humans out of his rabbit characters to pay off his gambling debts. Who knows what adventures they'll have between now and the time the show becomes unprofitable?" Well, I somehow think they'll come to an agreement that sees production continue, but... dang.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:11 AM

We can only hope.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:13 AM

Hey look, you can dislike the show all you want: but its obviously still profitable enough to be on the air.

But asking the voice staff to take a nearly 50% pay cut... thats not cutting, that amputation. Granted, their earning ridiculous sums already for it... so... whatever. Not like it makes any real difference in the long run.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:16 AM

I think a "45% pay cut or your fired" ultimatum is pretty jivey. There's the part of me that doesn't care because I'd take 10% of one year of their pay and be able to make it last the rest of my life, though.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:26 AM

While I gotta admit it's been a damn good run for the series (heck 23 seasons is amazing), I'd hate to see it go. Of all the series on Fox's Animation lineup the Simpsons is the only one I care to watch anymore. All the MacFarlane shows are watchable but the shock value humor is getting old for me. Heck the funny part was the Simpsons used to be the Shock humor show when it first started and now has become more of the normal over the last two decades. But if Fox plans on finally killing off the show I can't say it's not been a long time coming.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:34 AM

I don't get it--what's the rationale behind such a massive pay cut? Going into this I thought it was going to be about the voice staff wanting more money, not negotiating less.

Maybe Fox needs that money to pay for all the horrible Family Guy spin-offs. Family Guy itself has become unwatchable. Every time McFarlane adds a new show, the original gets worse.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:36 AM

This is Fox we're talking about. The ones who last time this issue came up threatened to replace the cast with sound alikes.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:41 AM

QUOTE(wonko the sane? @ Oct 5 2011, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey look, you can dislike the show all you want: but its obviously still profitable enough to be on the air.

But asking the voice staff to take a nearly 50% pay cut... thats not cutting, that amputation. Granted, their earning ridiculous sums already for it... so... whatever. Not like it makes any real difference in the long run.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:47 AM

Clearly, this is just a ploy so Fox can greenlight Seth MacFarlane's fourth show for Sundays, "Balding Yellow Patriarch."

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(awa64 @ Oct 5 2011, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clearly, this is just a ploy so Fox can greenlight Seth MacFarlane's fourth show for Sundays, "Balding Yellow Patriarch."



You mean the new Flintstones show he's doing?

Someone quit giving him shows. He's the Tyler Perry of animated comedies.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 11:56 AM

They'll work it out. They always do.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE(Benbot @ Oct 5 2011, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's the Tyler Perry of animated comedies.



Except his shows are sometimes funny.


EDIT: And by "his," I mean Seth's.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:05 PM

At this point, I honestly don't care if The Simpsons ends or not. I haven't watched it regularly since Season 21 I think. I've only seen two or three episodes since the last couple of years.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 12:06 PM

I know I wouldn't like to take a 45% paycut, but then again I'm not earning nearly a fraction of what the Simpson's cast are ($8m each per season, apparently). No doubt they're doing a great job on the show but times are hard.

And even though the show gets bashed for not being as good as it was back in the day, if it were to be cancelled then a lot of people would miss it.

Hell, even if it is cancelled, I wouldn't be surprised to see it appear again after a year or 2. Just look at Family Guy and Futurama.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 01:51 PM

the POS show should have been cancelled years and year ago.
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Posted 05 October 2011 - 02:00 PM

I haven't watched it regularly for years, and it's been at least a year since I bothered sitting down to watch a new episode. At this point, I think it would be better off just ending. $8 million a season is a bit absurd, and I think they and other overpaid people in that industry could probably do with a 45% pay cut as well. They'd still be doing immeasurably better than the rest of us, and have more money than they'd ever need.

On the other hand, when the Simpsons goes, FOX will probably just give MacFarlane yet another show so that Sunday will become completely unwatchable. The Simpsons, at least, had the advantage of characters I've grown to like over many years; so even if an episode is pretty half-assed, I could still probably tolerate it. I can't tolerate any of MacFarlane's stuff.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE(DrSpengler @ Oct 5 2011, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I stopped watching The Simpsons regularly back in high school. ...And I graduated in 03.

Still, I don't vehemently hate it like a lot of people or even wish it would die. I just don't really pay attention to it anymore. And if the weekday reruns aren't showing an episode from the seasons I grew up watching, I typically change teh channel.

I am actually excited for episode I haven't seen (and considering I stopped around the same time as you, that's a LOT of episodes).

I'm just curious why Fox hasn't allowed Adult Swim to air the series. Family Guy is on some 6 channels around here at varying points in the week, so I'm curious why they are avoiding a potential revenue stream (which really could pay dividends, AS brought back Family Guy, maybe if they start showing Simpsons, younger viewers will take a renewed interest and maybe inject some life into the DVD sales and improve Sunday ratings?)

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:25 PM

I don't want it to end, I just don't care for it any more. I'll still watch it though just in case a new episode is actually funny. I keep being let down though and I become embarrassed for the people watching it with me since its so unfunny.

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 09:04 PM

They could pretty much fire everyone but Dan and Hank and just have them do the show. I'm sure most people wouldn't notice Marge, Bart and Lisa missing icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 10:20 PM

I passionately wished for its death to save the show's dignity years ago. But now, it has been so sucky for so long. Finally, I just stopped caring. Luckily, by then it was the 80's and no one noticed.



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