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@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.


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TakaraTomy Designer's VERY Rough MP Ultra Magnus Concept


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#1 Powered Convoy

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:29 AM

https://twitter.com/#!/Hasui_TF
http://photozou.jp/p...44750/100013949
http://www.tfw2005.c...cept-image.html

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Takara Tomy designer Hasui Shogo,He revealed a secret at Twitter!

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https://twitter.com/#!/Hasui_TF

MP Ultramagnus concept, based on ver.2 Convoy with G1 Ultramugnus parts.


Make of it what you will. Looks like at least one designer is considering how they'd make the figure (by slapping some G1 Magnus trailer parts on the new MP Convoy).

Also it appears that Convoy's truck mode is to scale with the Alternity this time as opposed to the Binaltech (roughly).
http://photozou.jp/p...44750/100010935

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#2 Meister79

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:53 AM

Cool! I guess releasing the new Convoy mold in white as Ultra Magnus is inevitable. But if he came straight with his trailer that combines into his super mode, it would make the remakes of Masterpiece figures in smaller scale worth it.

Edited by Meister79, 22 September 2011 - 07:54 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:55 AM

Yeah I agree that it looks a little rough. 10 years ago this would have been amazing, but in comparison to City Commander that looks like a pile of crap. How about less G1 slavishness and more updated aesthetics and modern engineering?

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 07:59 AM

I'm sure if they did ever make one, it'd be more complex than having a cut-up G1 Magnus pieces slapped on the new Masterpiece Convoy. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:06 AM

QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Sep 22 2011, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I agree that it looks a little rough. 10 years ago this would have been amazing, but in comparison to City Commander that looks like a pile of crap. How about less G1 slavishness and more updated aesthetics and modern engineering?

With other lines I would agree, but this is Masterpiece we're talking about.
Its very purpose is to be a slavish to G1 as possible.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Sep 22 2011, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I agree that it looks a little rough. 10 years ago this would have been amazing, but in comparison to City Commander that looks like a pile of crap. How about less G1 slavishness and more updated aesthetics and modern engineering?


It's the 25+ year old Magnus armor photoshopped to a high end collectors toy. Ofcourse it looks like crap.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:08 AM

QUOTE(Silent_Magnus @ Sep 22 2011, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Quantumhawk @ Sep 22 2011, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah I agree that it looks a little rough. 10 years ago this would have been amazing, but in comparison to City Commander that looks like a pile of crap. How about less G1 slavishness and more updated aesthetics and modern engineering?

With other lines I would agree, but this is Masterpiece we're talking about.
Its very purpose is to be a slavish to G1 as possible.

I think QH is missing the fact that this is just a rough concept. Sure the general idea will be the same, but I'm confident IF they made one it'd be better in execution than what we're seeing here. Hopefully his blue would be darker too, I want one in cartoon colors!

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:12 AM

I'd rather have a Masterpiece Ultra Magnus that takes hints from the Titaniums figure and transforms directly from vehicle to armored robot. Mind you, I realize that's never going to happen while they can just recolor a Prime body and (maybe) add new parts.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:24 AM

^ Plus Randy wants the new MP Convoy in white!

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:31 AM

Now I want an MP Ultra Magnus!

Edited by MagnusPrimal, 22 September 2011 - 08:31 AM.


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:32 AM

I have no interest in the new MP Prime since he's too big to look right with the CHUGS. But I'd definately want any armored up version like Magnus or PM Prime.


-ZacWilliam, the armored up forms get more leeway from me for being a bit oversized...

Edited by ZacWilliam1, 22 September 2011 - 08:39 AM.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Sep 22 2011, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have no interest in the new MP Prime since he's too big to look right with the CHUGS. But I'd definately want any armored up version like Magnus or PM Prime.


-ZacWilliam, the armored up forms get more least from me for being a bit oversized...


If vehicle mode is roughly in scale with Alternity, then the Masterpiece Optimus is actually too small for CHUGS. icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:45 AM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Sep 22 2011, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Sep 22 2011, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have no interest in the new MP Prime since he's too big to look right with the CHUGS. But I'd definately want any armored up version like Magnus or PM Prime.


-ZacWilliam, the armored up forms get more least from me for being a bit oversized...


If vehicle mode is roughly in scale with Alternity, then the Masterpiece Optimus is actually too small for CHUGS. icon-waspy.gif


Robot mode is all that matters to me as far as scale and at MP Grimlock/Rodimus height he's WAY too tall to fit with the CHUGGERS. Sadly.


-ZacWilliam, it feels a bit odd to be asking for a MP to be smaller, but there ya go. If I wanted a MP Prime not in scale with the Chugs, well, I've already got that, don't I. icon-hotrod.gif
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:49 AM

Alternity cars are 1/32, and while Classics Autobot Cars are non-scale, they seem to generally conform to being about 1/36. If MP10 does scale correctly to Alternity cars, Zac's probably right about it being on the large side to work with Classics. Of course, to my eye that comparison photo makes Prime's vehicle mode look a little small relative to that Alternity, so I'm actually not any help at all. icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Sep 22 2011, 09:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(NightViper @ Sep 22 2011, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(ZacWilliam1 @ Sep 22 2011, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have no interest in the new MP Prime since he's too big to look right with the CHUGS. But I'd definately want any armored up version like Magnus or PM Prime.


-ZacWilliam, the armored up forms get more least from me for being a bit oversized...


If vehicle mode is roughly in scale with Alternity, then the Masterpiece Optimus is actually too small for CHUGS. icon-waspy.gif


Robot mode is all that matters to me as far as scale and at MP Grimlock/Rodimus height he's WAY too tall to fit with the CHUGGERS. Sadly.


-ZacWilliam, it feels a bit odd to be asking for a MP to be smaller, but there ya go. If I wanted a MP Prime not in scale with the Chugs, well, I've already got that, don't I. icon-hotrod.gif

I'm sure MP Optimus is definitely in scale with the likes of Ultra Silverbolt and Onslaught.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:13 AM

The most recent tweet indicates that fan response will determine if it gets made or not.

I kinda have the feeling it will be since if they don't make it a 3rd party will, and thus Takara would lose out on possible sales.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:48 AM

I wonder how much of a price increase Magnus would be if any.
Prime seems to come with a lot of extra stuff, but is all that stuff equal to a transforming trailer?


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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:53 AM

I postulated in an earlier thread that making a smaller MP Convoy opens the door for them to do armored modes. The new exhorbitant price point likely is testing the waters. Is this really just G1 parts photoshopped onto MP10? They seem different, making me hope that an actual release wouldn't look as bad as the photo.

If MP10 comes with Spike that fits in the cab, maybe MP Ultra Magnus would come with Sparkplug.
How is it that we put man on the moon before we figured out it would be a good idea to put wheels on luggage?

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 09:55 AM

And what's going on with MP10's head in that photo? Looks like it was replaced with a marble. I like how they flip the legs to make them look different. Looking at the knee joint on MP10, it appears to move equally in both directions.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 10:01 AM

Well I tweeted I want one. I encourage others to do the same if they want TakaraTomy to make a MP Magnus with armor like this.

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