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@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?


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#41 Sean Whitmore

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 08:23 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Sep 6 2011, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two years in a row?! I really hope not (I do like Pasadena, but I don't think I could convince my girlfriend to go there a 3rd time in 4 years).


Heh, I'd be of two minds if it were Pasadena again. The part of me that wants a vacation versus the part that would save hundreds on plane tickets and a hotel.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:42 AM

Last night I dreamt that Botcon 2012 is going to be held in Cleveland, OH. I was very excited about being able to drive there again.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 12:35 PM

I fully support that idea. icon-fire.gif

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#44 McFly

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 09:22 AM

I've flown from NJ to Pasadena twice already, so range isn't a factor. Just make it easy to get to, with interesting things within walking distance.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:44 PM

I'd love it to be in Florida around August. Dream vacation for me. Star Wars Celebration ... AND Botcon. I could die a happy jawa. But that dream aside. Boston would be a nifty local. (And for the record that's about a 8 hour bus ride for me, so no it ain't next door)
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 05:46 PM

The Pacific Northwest has never gotten any love, so how about it? Great booze and food, lots of things to do, friendly cities? Seattle would probably get more walk-ins then Portland, though Portland is a vey geek-friendly city. I could be wrong though, anyone know the PAX Prime attendance figures?

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 12:22 AM

PAX has grown to about about 70,000+ as of this year. I can testify to it.

Going by past trends, Botcon'll be on the east coast this year.

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#48 Bleargh001

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 02:10 AM

The convention being in Pasadena also makes it much cheaper and easier to bring in the voice actors, which is apparently a draw.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE(Bleargh001 @ Sep 11 2011, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The convention being in Pasadena also makes it much cheaper and easier to bring in the voice actors, which is apparently a draw.


Eh, voice actors aren't a draw for me. I mean they're cool but they in no way determine my wanting to go one way or another. The draw is Botcon itself, and would remain without s single VA.

Location however completely does, and west coast is terrible for that. It's simply too far.


-ZacWilliam, that's why it's best to move it around, so folks all over get a decent shot at going.

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#50 Suspsy

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 12:44 PM

Last night, I dreamt that Botcon 2012's location was announced as "Pachyceph," Wyoming.

A lot of fans were cheering about it.
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#51 ChessPieceFace

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 01:03 PM

Well, that'd be a boneheaded move.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 03:23 PM

Wow....

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE(Suspsy @ Sep 13 2011, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Last night, I dreamt that Botcon 2012's location was announced as "Pachyceph," Wyoming.

A lot of fans were cheering about it.

I wonder how many fans would end up not going, simply because they could neither spell nor pronounce Pachyceph and were therefore incapable of making travel arrangements.

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 03:00 PM

Is Vegas off the table? Always seems like there's cheap airfare to Vegas.
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 08:10 PM

The rumor I keep hearing go round and round is Chicago in 2012. May be hot air, but some of these rumors have credible origins....


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Posted 15 September 2011 - 10:44 AM

QUOTE(Nanite @ Sep 14 2011, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Vegas off the table? Always seems like there's cheap airfare to Vegas.

Because there always is.

From what I understand, it's also supposed to be a very reasonable place to have a conference, cost-wise. The business model of the whole town is basically "get people here so they can lose their money to us by gambling," so everything else is generally very affordable.

I think the problem with Botcon there though would be that it's not exactly the most family-friendly place in the world. Also, the chances of getting a lot of walk-ins are going to be pretty low when there's not very many kids around, and for any adults there's a lot of other entertainment right nearby.

It'd be a great choice for fans, but probably less so for FunPub or Hasbro, IMO.

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Posted 15 September 2011 - 09:19 PM

Going just by where traffic to this site comes from as a sampling.. most of our users seem to be in the northeast and east and southeast... with a chunk from Texas and a big chunk from California.

Much like it was 5-10 years ago.

Seems like Lexington, Cincinnati and Louisville are the most 'central' locations based on the sampling of Transformers fans from this site. I couldn't say what it might be overall but I don't see any reason why it would be all that different.

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Posted 16 September 2011 - 12:46 PM

Actually I'd like it back in Lexington. I liked Kentucky.
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Posted 16 September 2011 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE(Kalidor @ Sep 15 2011, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Going just by where traffic to this site comes from as a sampling.. most of our users seem to be in the northeast and east and southeast... with a chunk from Texas and a big chunk from California.

Much like it was 5-10 years ago.

Seems like Lexington, Cincinnati and Louisville are the most 'central' locations based on the sampling of Transformers fans from this site. I couldn't say what it might be overall but I don't see any reason why it would be all that different.

Centrality notwithstanding, I think we discovered that the Cincinnati airport was among the most expensive in the nation when we were discussing it as a BotCon option a few years ago.

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Posted 17 September 2011 - 02:38 PM

That's why I say Louisville.. not just because I live here but because it's, has its own large airport, is cheap.. has more stuff to do than Lexington and is central.

The downtown convention center could easily accommodate Botcon and there's lots of hotels. As well as 4th Street Live which is a lot of bars and eateries within walking distance.




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