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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 LioConvoy

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:18 PM

Has this been announced yet? Because I'd like to know.

#2 NightViper

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:34 PM

Last they talked about it (a week and a half - two weeks ago) they were still working with Hasbro to finalize things.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:48 AM

For the love of all that is sacred and holy. East coast! icon-fire.gif
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 11:53 AM

For entirely selfish reasons I hope it occurs somewhere between Richmond, VA and Baltimore, MD heh.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:42 PM

Walky's ass.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE(Big Show @ Sep 1 2011, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the love of all that is sacred and holy. East coast! icon-fire.gif

Especially if it's near New England!

Transformers is a brand that really has something for everyone. We are a darn lucky fandom.


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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE(Mouse_Pad @ Sep 1 2011, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Walky's ass.

Again?!

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 03:56 PM

Walky's ass would mean Columbus.

Which would be awesome!

But seriously...let's get a NON-EXTREME location this year. No California, No Texas, No Rhode Island, No North Carolina.

Chicago, Indiana, Kentucky, Cincinnati, any of those would be good.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 04:16 PM

Personally, I think we're long overdue for a return to Pasadena. I mean, it's been almost three months since the last California BotCon!

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:24 PM

Most people want it in their own backyard, so since you can't please everyone, let's just ignore that and have it somewhere where you can expect to see something outside the convention other than a Denny's and a Wal-Mart. It's not like they have trouble with attendance when they don't please the "budget" attendees.

Don't get me wrong, I've been to quite a few conventions now and have had lots of fun in the "non-extreme" locations as Blud put it, but I think half the fun is going somewhere interesting. If having to fly is fairly likely either way, might as well go someplace noteworthy.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE(Spinner @ Sep 1 2011, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Big Show @ Sep 1 2011, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For the love of all that is sacred and holy. East coast! icon-fire.gif

Especially if it's near New England!

Gosh I hope not. I want a vacation.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Sep 1 2011, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Gosh I hope not. I want a vacation.


Same here. I wanna swim in a hotel pool where I can remain ignorant about how gross all the other people using it are.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 07:15 AM

Wherever it is, hopefully it will be near a city with major hub airport. It would make flights cheaper for those in the US and those from outside the US wouldn't have to spend additional airport/travel time just to take a connecting flight (which really hugging sucks after a 12-14 hour flight across the Pacific).

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 09:02 AM

I say it should be in the Midwest, that way, nobody has to travel across the country to get to it.






Somewhere near North Dakota....how about Fargo!!!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE(Dr. DoofenZek @ Sep 2 2011, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I say it should be in the Midwest, that way, nobody has to travel across the country to get to it.

Obviously, this is one of those places where "our definitions differ."

I read that as everyone has to travel across the country to get to it.

Yeah, I know you mean "across" as in "coast-to-coast." I read "across" as in "a great distance."

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:17 AM

I keep saying it, but I really think Indianapolis would be a good location, and not just because it's a 20-minute drive for me. It's at the intersection of four major interstates (65, 69, 70, and 74) and a major highway (US 40), has a large international airport, decent public transportation, and is already a major convention city. They host GenCon every year (and the Super Bowl next year), so BotCon should be no problem. Plenty of hotel space both downtown and in the 'burbs, and plenty of stuff to do all around the city.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 11:41 AM

A lot of so-called "international" airports aren't really all that international. Indianapolis's airport only appears to have direct flights to/from Toronto and seasonal flights to Cancun. I think the only international hubs in the midwest are Chicago and Detroit.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 12:49 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Sep 1 2011, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But seriously...let's get a NON-EXTREME location this year. No California, No Texas, No Rhode Island, No North Carolina.

I am incredibly amused to see North Carolina described as extreme.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE(Dr. DoofenZek @ Sep 2 2011, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I say it should be in the Midwest, that way, nobody has to travel across the country to get to it.


Let's shore up our definitions here.

Traveling from the midwest to the west coast is traveling across the country.
Traveling from the west coast to the midwest is NOT traveling across the country.

Hrm.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Sep 2 2011, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Dr. DoofenZek @ Sep 2 2011, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I say it should be in the Midwest, that way, nobody has to travel across the country to get to it.


Let's shore up our definitions here.

Traveling from the midwest to the west coast is traveling across the country.
Traveling from the west coast to the midwest is NOT traveling across the country.

Hrm.


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