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@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.


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#1 ShinRa Inc

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 03:18 PM

Or it should be soon. Got charged for my preorder a few minutes ago.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE(ShinRa Inc @ Aug 26 2011, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Or it should be soon. Got charged for my preorder a few minutes ago.

Got charged for mine too. Forgot I had ordered it oh so long ago.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 06:37 PM

About time. It's been keeping me from shipping my Pile of Loot.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:15 PM

Well, it'll be MP-10 holding up my next POL (bah. Want FP Insecticons noooooow!), not this set. But glad it's finally out.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 10:13 AM

I've been waiting for this for a long time. Glad it's finally in. Waiting on Heavy Labor before I ship my next POL.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 02:35 AM

After checking the head again... I decided not to buy it. The skull-face just looks too angular, and almost goofy, and I don't see the need to get the same swords Bludgeon already has in a different color.

I'd gladly buy the other upgrade, planned for the small Wreckage repaint, but that seems to have been lost...

Off-topic, but anyone knows where one can get Venksta's Darkwing and Red Alert upgrades? Ebay has yielded nothing...
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE(BB Shockwave @ Aug 29 2011, 03:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Off-topic, but anyone knows where one can get Venksta's Darkwing and Red Alert upgrades? Ebay has yielded nothing...

Unfortunately, Venksta's products are often 200-300 pieces, and there's not really any outside bleed--the people who know about them are the people who want them. There's going to be a handful of people at best who resell his product for any reason... and given the rarity/demand, it's probably going to go for WAY more than you're prepared to pay.

I'm still kicking myself for missing out on Red Alert so I wish things were different, but the sad reality is that you're probably outta luck.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:12 AM

Got my Blood from BBTS today. I'm looking forward to taking it home and upgrading him this evening. Yes. icon-silverbolt.gif

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 09:52 AM

QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Aug 31 2011, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got my Blood from BBTS today. I'm looking forward to taking it home and upgrading him this evening. Yes. icon-silverbolt.gif

Pics?!

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE(Powered Convoy @ Aug 31 2011, 10:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Ursa Magnus @ Aug 31 2011, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Got my Blood from BBTS today. I'm looking forward to taking it home and upgrading him this evening. Yes. icon-silverbolt.gif

Pics?!


Once I upgrade him, I'll be sure to take some. icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:09 AM

Awesome, thanks!

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 10:30 AM

Just looking at the set here at my desk, and it looks pretty neat. The packaging is clamshell, and pops open and closed again without any issue. None of the parts are held into the packaging by anything more than slight friction, so there's no distortion of the blades. And the instructions for replacing the head are right on the back of the cardback. Very nice.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:43 PM

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:46 PM

There's something off about both headsculpts. I think the skull face needs more pronounced cheekbones to make it look a bit more exagerrated and menacing. Dunno why the Noh mask feels off, though.

But I've quite grown to like the original head sculpt anyways (just need to get around to painting the bottom "jaw" to look more like the Noh mask version), so I don't think I'm bothering with the replacement, anyways. The improved swords are where it's at for me.

Edited by mx-01 archon, 31 August 2011 - 06:47 PM.


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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:50 PM

That does look sharp. icon-ironhide.gif

How involved is the headswapping?

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE(MrBlud @ Aug 31 2011, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That does look sharp. icon-ironhide.gif

How involved is the headswapping?


Not tough at all. You remove the two screws in the old head, and the new one just clicks down over the neck piece. It's a little looser than I'd like, but it's secure. And to change the face, you just slide the helmet off, rotate the head around, and drop the helmet back on.

I like it, but it really could use some kind of paint or accents. It's just unpainted white plastic as-is (aside from the red eyes on the skull and blue on the robot).

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE(mx-01 archon @ Aug 31 2011, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There's something off about both headsculpts. I think the skull face needs more pronounced cheekbones to make it look a bit more exagerrated and menacing. Dunno why the Noh mask feels off, though.


Yeah, these are both very off from the kind of look I was hoping for here. The first looks just plain goofy with the toothy grim and odd chin, and the second just doesn't interest me. I'll pass.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:56 PM

Yeah, I just don't think I care for the sculpt on the skull face, or the sort of tall, narrow shape of the helmet all that much. Plus the plastic looks like it doesn't match that well. This isn't bad really, but it just doesn't particularly push my buttons for some reason.

I'm pretty much used to the head he came with, which looks tons better if you get a replacement clear red eye piece from Darkov at TFW2005. That subtle touch of the eyes being translucent, like Hasbro toys usually are, really brings him to life. With that said, I wouldn't mind a replacement that was cast in the respective colors instead of painted, with more the same general shape as the Hasbro head, but with a different sculpt.

I do dig the swords with the green handles that match the toy though, that's a nice touch and a good use of chrome. Almost worth the relatively cheap price just for that.

Edited by Jeremy, 31 August 2011 - 08:22 PM.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 07:58 PM

Thanks Ursa! I like the robotic face, the skeleton face needs some work though. They should have just swiped the sculpt from MOTU's Scare Glow. icon-fire.gif

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 08:47 PM

So yeah, I went ahead and ordered it for just the swords, and the resulting improved vehicle mode turret. Love tasteful little touches of chrome like that. icon-fire.gif

Anybody not care about the swords but want the head maybe? I doubt I'll be using it.
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