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@  Bass X0 : (29 August 2016 - 01:30 PM)

Duckman is indeed better than Beast Wars.

@  Telly : (29 August 2016 - 01:12 PM)

well i went to dollar general looking for the beast wars dvd. didnt find them. but i found something BETTER: seasons 1 and 2 of duckman!!! and for only $2.95!

@  Bass X0 : (29 August 2016 - 01:05 PM)

And Aloha Darth Vader is a Fairy type.

@  ▲ndrusi : (29 August 2016 - 09:54 AM)

Yeah, and Alola Form Sith are fire-type.

@  Touch My Thighs : (29 August 2016 - 05:37 AM)

Some regional variations actually have some cool headdress-type things instead of the black hood.

@  Rycochet : (29 August 2016 - 05:20 AM)

Sith Robes? Really?

@  Kalidor : (28 August 2016 - 09:48 PM)

Most google ads base their content on sites you've visited - so you're probably visiting a lot of news sites.

@  unluckiness : (28 August 2016 - 09:33 AM)

What, you don't find Sith robes attractive?

@  Pennpenn : (28 August 2016 - 09:26 AM)

Anyone else getting Muslim dating sites turning up in the ads? I mean, talk about mistargetted adverising...

@  Telly : (27 August 2016 - 11:21 PM)

gonna have to take a trip to dollar general in the next few days

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 09:26 PM)

Seriously, Shout Factory's Beast Wars Season 2 and 3 4 DVD set was at Dollar General for 2.95

@  Robowang : (27 August 2016 - 09:15 PM)

Whaaaaaaaaaat

@  Steevy Maximus : (27 August 2016 - 08:29 PM)

Why no, I'm not adversed to getting Beast Wars Seasons 2 and 3 DVD set for 2.95 (At Dollar General)

@  Patchouli Kn... : (27 August 2016 - 09:34 AM)

A big thank you to everyone who contributed to my GoFundMe! =D

@  TheMightyMol... : (27 August 2016 - 07:42 AM)

Especially if it's an escort mission.

@  Pennpenn : (27 August 2016 - 07:29 AM)

I can't believe I forgot one of the core rules of video games. When the question is "They can't be that stupid, can they?" the answer is almost always "Yes they can".

@  ▲ndrusi : (27 August 2016 - 06:56 AM)

I think the meme needs to be transferred back to Vin Diesel

@  BlackMax : (27 August 2016 - 06:09 AM)

CHUCK NORRIS NO!

@  lastmaximal : (27 August 2016 - 12:19 AM)

Yes?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (26 August 2016 - 06:39 PM)

Chuck Norris

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:59 PM)

Goodnight, everybody!

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:57 PM)

...I don't think so.

@  BlackMax : (26 August 2016 - 04:55 PM)

No no no, ~finger~prints!

@  ShadowMan024 : (26 August 2016 - 04:43 PM)

I'd say "Goodnight, everybody!" but no one's made an innuendo yet.

@  Bass X0 : (26 August 2016 - 04:39 PM)

Goodnight out there... whatever you are!

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 03:27 PM)

Goodnight, folks!

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 03:09 PM)

*drags TMM out of the Squawkbox to continue the fight*

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 02:26 PM)

I dunno, maybe the big guy's saving it for a special ocassion.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 01:16 PM)

Your spouse's brother is a PRIEST. If you were supposed to get hit by lightning, it would've happened by now.

@  TheMightyMol... : (26 August 2016 - 11:31 AM)

Now I want to make devil's food cake with holy water just to see if I get hit by lightning or something.

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 10:10 AM)

I hope not. Ruins the flavour.

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 09:09 AM)

Did I put garlic or holy water in it or something?

@  Dracula : (26 August 2016 - 07:45 AM)

Cake? My only weakness! *bursts into flame*

@  MEDdMI : (26 August 2016 - 05:15 AM)

Happy Birthday! *rolls a giant cake into the Shoutbox*

@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

http://i.imgur.com/qeoJpsf.jpg

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?


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#41 videriant

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 05:37 PM

The first movie had real gears instead of scouts and all the cybertron and energon scouts were repainted and released as Target exclusives.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 06:52 PM

QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Aug 26 2011, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to a Japanese dealer I know and trust, this batch being sold by BBTS was produced under the table by the factory in China and wasn't done for the Japanese market, it was done for dealers in Hong Kong and Asia. So while it uses the exact same molds and packaging as the official release, it's not exactly official and likely none of the money paid for them will be going to Takara or Hasbro. They may also have a higher defect rate, not sure. This has happened a few times in the past with figures like MP Megatron and Henkei Hound.


Well I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I doubt we'll ever know, but I wonder what he thinks of Botcon runs. From what I understand, Botcon exclusives tend to be the same sort of thing, where Funpub mostly deals directly with the factory. Sure, they have Hasbro's blessing, but from the way I understood it, Funpub deals with Factory more on these things. Or maybe I'm wrong.

I'd at least like to think BBTS went to Takara to see if more could be made, the being directed to deal with the factory directly. I could see your contact misinterpreting that sort of transaction, at least.
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#43 Buster Darkwings

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE(Might Gaine @ Aug 27 2011, 05:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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He does business in Hong Kong and Asia himself. I'd assume it's fairly easy to find out what's not meant for Japan, like if solicitations for a re-release of JP market product show up in Hong Kong but not Japan.


I don't take issue with his knowing that it is being released in Hong Kong instead of Japan. What I'm trying to understand is how he would know that they were not ordered by Hasbro HK...


He'll probably be at the next BotCon, feel free to as him then.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:02 PM

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I'll be happy with my smaller gun versions. They're more in scale with Cybertron Soundwave whom I have holding them.


Ditto.

They mount pretty well on his wingtips in jet mode as well.

I'd buy these if I found them at $10 (CDN pricetag) at retail. But I'm not paying $75 for two "mass-produced" Scouts.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Aug 26 2011, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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He does business in Hong Kong and Asia himself. I'd assume it's fairly easy to find out what's not meant for Japan, like if solicitations for a re-release of JP market product show up in Hong Kong but not Japan.


I don't take issue with his knowing that it is being released in Hong Kong instead of Japan. What I'm trying to understand is how he would know that they were not ordered by Hasbro HK...


He'll probably be at the next BotCon, feel free to as him then.


Could you ask him instead? 8 months is a long time to wait for an answer and I may not even be going to Botcon next year.

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#46 Buster Darkwings

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE(Kevin S @ Aug 27 2011, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I doubt we'll ever know, but I wonder what he thinks of Botcon runs. From what I understand, Botcon exclusives tend to be the same sort of thing, where Funpub mostly deals directly with the factory. Sure, they have Hasbro's blessing, but from the way I understood it, Funpub deals with Factory more on these things. Or maybe I'm wrong.


It wouldn't surprise me if the same people are having BotCon exclusives produced under the table. I haven't been paying much attention to auctions lately, but I saw a LOT of BotCon G2 Sideswipes on Yahoo Japan last year, possibly more than there actually were at the customizing classes.

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Posted 26 August 2011 - 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Aug 26 2011, 08:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He does business in Hong Kong and Asia himself. I'd assume it's fairly easy to find out what's not meant for Japan, like if solicitations for a re-release of JP market product show up in Hong Kong but not Japan.


I don't take issue with his knowing that it is being released in Hong Kong instead of Japan. What I'm trying to understand is how he would know that they were not ordered by Hasbro HK...



Indeed. How does he know that they are illegitimate and not officially made product if they are coming 'from the same molds, in the same packaging' which would also mean 'from the same factory' since while Hasbro owns the molds it is the factory that holds onto them and they aren't just going to be moved around freely.


There is precedent.

This happened with SOTA's Streetfighter figures. I believe it was the first wave only (not 100% on that though).

There was a dispute with the factory, so well after the official release, the factory started selling the figures on their own, without SOTA's approval or input, and without SOTA seeing any of the revenue.
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Posted 26 August 2011 - 09:09 PM

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When we get another set along the lines of 'Battle in Space' maybe I'd consider this a possibility, but one two-pack does not a precedent make.

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. We've had two-packs before. Packs with comic books, no less. "Battle in Space" was hardly the first.

I meant exclusive multi-packs for Classics/Universe/Generations molds, instead of whatever current movie/tv-show it's tied to.

Last things I remember were the Titanium two-pack and Ultra Magnus/Skywarp, and those were years ago.



The Target comic two-packs, as Blackrock was alluding to I think. Springer/Ratbat, Dirge/Roadbuster.

Indeed I was, although I was intentionally vague.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 02:48 AM

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He does business in Hong Kong and Asia himself. I'd assume it's fairly easy to find out what's not meant for Japan, like if solicitations for a re-release of JP market product show up in Hong Kong but not Japan.


I don't take issue with his knowing that it is being released in Hong Kong instead of Japan. What I'm trying to understand is how he would know that they were not ordered by Hasbro HK...


He'll probably be at the next BotCon, feel free to as him then.


Could you ask him instead? 8 months is a long time to wait for an answer and I may not even be going to Botcon next year.


Not sure if I'll see or talk to him anytime soon.

Don't official Hasbro HK releases have stickers on the packaging somewhere? If so, that might be a giveaway.

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 08:37 AM

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He does business in Hong Kong and Asia himself. I'd assume it's fairly easy to find out what's not meant for Japan, like if solicitations for a re-release of JP market product show up in Hong Kong but not Japan.


I don't take issue with his knowing that it is being released in Hong Kong instead of Japan. What I'm trying to understand is how he would know that they were not ordered by Hasbro HK...


He'll probably be at the next BotCon, feel free to as him then.


Could you ask him instead? 8 months is a long time to wait for an answer and I may not even be going to Botcon next year.


Not sure if I'll see or talk to him anytime soon.

Don't official Hasbro HK releases have stickers on the packaging somewhere? If so, that might be a giveaway.

No, they have no stickers on the packaging last I checked....

I think that if you don't know why he thinks they're not official, it might be best to take his observation with a grain of salt. He could be right, but even good sources give bad info sometimes, and a factory doing this over and over without Takaratomy noticing and doing something about it just doesn't seem very likely to me.

Edited by Might Gaine, 27 August 2011 - 08:44 AM.

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#51 Buster Darkwings

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Posted 27 August 2011 - 09:20 AM

I actually asked him about that when he first told me this, and he specifically said they didn't know about it because they're stupid (baka). And he personally has known a lot of people at Takara for decades.

It probably doesn't make much difference if people believe it or not since there's plenty of buyers out there regardless, but there's obviously other underhanded deals going on in Asia, so I at least don't find it an unlikely story. But I already try to not to give resellers much of my business as it is.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Kevin S @ Aug 26 2011, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Aug 26 2011, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to a Japanese dealer I know and trust, this batch being sold by BBTS was produced under the table by the factory in China and wasn't done for the Japanese market, it was done for dealers in Hong Kong and Asia. So while it uses the exact same molds and packaging as the official release, it's not exactly official and likely none of the money paid for them will be going to Takara or Hasbro. They may also have a higher defect rate, not sure. This has happened a few times in the past with figures like MP Megatron and Henkei Hound.


Well I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I doubt we'll ever know, but I wonder what he thinks of Botcon runs. From what I understand, Botcon exclusives tend to be the same sort of thing, where Funpub mostly deals directly with the factory. Sure, they have Hasbro's blessing, but from the way I understood it, Funpub deals with Factory more on these things. Or maybe I'm wrong.

I'd at least like to think BBTS went to Takara to see if more could be made, the being directed to deal with the factory directly. I could see your contact misinterpreting that sort of transaction, at least.


According to Botcon, they have to go through Hasbro who has to go through Takara to talk to the factory. That's why the Club exclusives are such a pain. Actually surprised that not a lot of samples of the Botcon figures were leaked this year.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 07:42 AM

QUOTE(videriant @ Aug 30 2011, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Kevin S @ Aug 26 2011, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(Buster Darkwings @ Aug 26 2011, 08:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
According to a Japanese dealer I know and trust, this batch being sold by BBTS was produced under the table by the factory in China and wasn't done for the Japanese market, it was done for dealers in Hong Kong and Asia. So while it uses the exact same molds and packaging as the official release, it's not exactly official and likely none of the money paid for them will be going to Takara or Hasbro. They may also have a higher defect rate, not sure. This has happened a few times in the past with figures like MP Megatron and Henkei Hound.


Well I hope it isn't as bad as it sounds. I doubt we'll ever know, but I wonder what he thinks of Botcon runs. From what I understand, Botcon exclusives tend to be the same sort of thing, where Funpub mostly deals directly with the factory. Sure, they have Hasbro's blessing, but from the way I understood it, Funpub deals with Factory more on these things. Or maybe I'm wrong.

I'd at least like to think BBTS went to Takara to see if more could be made, the being directed to deal with the factory directly. I could see your contact misinterpreting that sort of transaction, at least.


According to Botcon, they have to go through Hasbro who has to go through Takara to talk to the factory. That's why the Club exclusives are such a pain. Actually surprised that not a lot of samples of the Botcon figures were leaked this year.


FunPubs deals directly with the factory when it comes to Joes. But only Joes.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 04:26 AM

I wonder if, similar to the Cyclonus vs. Hot Rod two-pack, Hasbro could release Rumble and Frenzy as some Target/Walmart/etc. exclusive. (With bios that do not indicate which one is which... icon-fire.gif) Maybe add Windcharger to make a three-pack.

It seems odd, but not without precedent (Animated Blackout, I am looking at you) that Hasbro goes to all the trouble of creating a new mold and then not releasing it to the mass market (Japan is a much smaller market then the rest of the world, afterall). One would think that's a money loss, no matter how we see it.

I'm also bummed that the lack of a scout class means we'll never see any Windcharger remolds/repaints... I would have liked a Tailgate, Wipe-Out, maybe even Scram.
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