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@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

No you don't get it, I'm not saying RG1 is "less true" because G I Joe doesn't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:54 AM)

Also, it's set decades later and earth was wrecked. Surely you don't need an explanation of why the Joes don't show up.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 10:53 AM)

None of that makes RG1 less "true".

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 10:41 AM)

How is it odd? G I joe and Transformers are canonically in the same continuty. Marvel Transformers continuity is a shared universe. G I Joe is canon and they had a crossover with G2, which makes it canon too, simple as that.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

an odd thing to say, surely.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 09:30 AM)

If you haven't read them, picking one over the other because of the presence of G.I. Joes is just

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:24 AM)

Also even though it's not officially published, I believe Alignment is canon since it was referenced in Ask Vector Prime and Allspark Almanac.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 09:22 AM)

I don't have an opinion on neither G2 or RG1 since I didn't read them.

@  Dracula : (24 August 2016 - 07:54 AM)

G2 was kind of miserable but even that is preferable to RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 07:14 AM)

I don't think RG1 is the true ending to the Marvel because G. I Joe was in the same continuity as Transformers and they had a crossover with G2, not RG1 (obviously RG1 didn't exist back then). So G2/Alignment is the true ending.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 02:20 AM)

Why do you hate yourself?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (24 August 2016 - 12:45 AM)

I still need to read everything after Vol. 1 of RG1...

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 11:47 PM)

i really wouldve liked to see rg1 pick up where the marvel run left off (or just a couple years after), instead of jumping 20 years. i wanna see how shit went down on earth

@  Dracula : (23 August 2016 - 09:54 PM)

After RG1, I'd just as soon have nobody ever touch the marvel continuity again

@  MEDdMI : (23 August 2016 - 08:46 PM)

I would like a dancing/rhythm game called Rhythms of Darkness, but not necessarily Marvel related.

@  Bass X0 : (23 August 2016 - 07:42 PM)

I'd like a Rhythms of Darkness mini-series from IDW following on from the Marvel issue detailing the events that happened in that continuity after the issue ended. The Marvel movie adaptation and The Big Broadcast of 2006 would take place in the same continuity.

@  Telly : (23 August 2016 - 01:21 AM)

someone must think you need another set

@  OrionPax44 : (23 August 2016 - 12:08 AM)

All I keep getting is the add for the FP Stunticon set I already own

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (22 August 2016 - 11:51 PM)

A tactical shortcoming.

@  MEDdMI : (22 August 2016 - 08:54 PM)

I frequently get ones for hot Asian women. I guess they're not doing their research.

@  Bass X0 : (22 August 2016 - 03:30 PM)

Most of my targeted ads are for things I just recently bought, which seems redundant

@  BScorpinok75 : (22 August 2016 - 12:47 AM)

:o

@  Defensis Prime : (21 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Okay, see, this is not his fault--

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

Whoa. Sugar rush...

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 09:46 PM)

DON'T TALK TO ME! DON'T TALK TO ME, CRIMINAL!

@  Paladin : (21 August 2016 - 08:16 PM)

they ate the whole plate. the WHOLE Plate.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 05:35 PM)

GRANMAMA DRINK YO PRUNE JUICE

@  TheMightyMol... : (21 August 2016 - 04:05 PM)

Who?

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 03:39 PM)

Yeah they were awesome.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (21 August 2016 - 03:37 PM)

Anyone wish Maggie and Glenn from the first movie would return?

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 03:19 PM)

And if the movies focused on Lennox and Epps (and Simmons) rather than Manic Weirdo, Fatherly Asshole, Statutory Rape Guy, and Generic Female Characters #432, #527, and #671, they'd already be far, far better movies.

@  ShadowMan024 : (21 August 2016 - 03:02 PM)

Lennox and Epps are the exact opposite of "terrible."

@  Cybersnark : (21 August 2016 - 02:47 PM)

Honestly, the movie designs look fine and are totally recognizable, the problem is how they're filmed (in close-up, shakeycam, with split-second cuts). We just need more wide shots, and a plot that focuses on the TFs as characters rather than as props for the (terrible) human characters..

@  Boomhauer : (21 August 2016 - 01:45 PM)

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the movie designs go out of their way to have parts in particular places that move around like muscles. They're going for metal aliens instead of megazords. A reboot, no matter how faithful to G1, would probably still have to try and go for a visual style that allows that kind of fluid movement.

@  cefurox : (21 August 2016 - 10:17 AM)

wew lad

@  unluckiness : (21 August 2016 - 08:48 AM)

At the very least, they make it tougher to see when parts clip through other parts

@  Fnu Aw : (21 August 2016 - 08:45 AM)

The movie designs were never about realism. They're about natural looking movement. Realistic G1 style designs would not move the way we want to see Transformers move. They'd collide with their own boxiness. The shredded metal look of the movie designs lets them flex.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (21 August 2016 - 06:18 AM)

IDW's art styles varied wildly throughout the years. And I'm not sure how "realism" is a reason to have one over any other since we don't know what shape-changing metal lifeforms really look like.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:51 AM)

I liked Eric the best, since he felt the most like a real person to me and had character growth over the series.

@  MEDdMI : (21 August 2016 - 05:50 AM)

Sort of. It was never animated, but if you scroll down to ep 28 and you can read the script for the final ep.

@  tffan01 : (21 August 2016 - 05:47 AM)

of course I'm not talking about Sunbow or Marvel, they look like people in cardboard boxes, I mean IDW, they look both interesting, realistic and also G1 enough.

@  Bass X0 : (21 August 2016 - 05:43 AM)

Did the kids in the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon ever find a way home for good?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:15 PM)

Since we're talking about design styles, wasn't AHM like that?

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 11:13 PM)

Yeah, look at IDW. All its lead writers are longstnading fans, but it's not like they've tried to wholly shoehorn Marvel or Sunbow into IDW.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 11:10 PM)

Or even a new style that isn't quite like any of the others.

@  Pennpenn : (20 August 2016 - 11:09 PM)

Even if they simplified the designs they'd probably look more like Prime than G1.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (20 August 2016 - 10:59 PM)

Also, "they'll go to G1 because they already used over-complicated movie designs" is a bit of a false dichotomy.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (20 August 2016 - 09:45 PM)

Also, flat-nosed trucks don't look intimidatingly cool to most American audiences. Movies got to find some way to get funding.


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:25 PM

Looking nice.



Very different from the custom package SG Optimus Prime KO had.



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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:39 PM

Oh god, it's finally coming? SO BOUGHT.
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Posted 19 August 2011 - 03:47 PM

From the design, I'd guess the package will be in the style of the Henkei Rodimus toy package.


Edited by mignash, 19 August 2011 - 03:49 PM.


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Posted 19 August 2011 - 04:42 PM

Um, yeah. That' pretty much falls into the category of "so obvious, it doesn't even need mentioning". It also makes it fit in with their other Henkei knock offs.
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Posted 20 August 2011 - 07:12 AM

It wasn't obvious to me. Thanks for mentioning it.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 07:22 AM

I wish these things never were.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 08:28 AM

Now with toy pictures.

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 11:03 AM

Randy, u mad?
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Posted 20 August 2011 - 11:15 AM

Is it just like the Botcon exclusive?

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 11:27 AM

I've not spotted any differences yet, but they did make the SG Optimus have two small changes, just to keep people from selling it as the "real thing". I wonder if they will do that for Rodimus?

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Posted 20 August 2011 - 10:00 PM

I find the Black Masterpiece colors on the mold interesting.

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Posted 22 August 2011 - 09:09 PM

I don't have much issue with stuff that Hasbro/Takara has never made like Henkai Sunstorm and such, but doing copies of stuff that HAS been done seems to be really ridiculous, especially the copies of BotCon stuff. At least they could put their own spin on it like that MP Black Rodimus inspired verson.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 08:32 AM

So far all Botcon "Replicas" have had some change they made to the toy on purpose so they are not confused with the "real thing" by collectors. I like that they do this. Wouldn't want to mess up the collectability of the real thing, but let's face it, if you don't have a SG Rodimus they sell for about $400 when they become available, I'd never buy that now, but I'd buy a near-replica stand-in for $30.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 08:57 AM

Question: How hard is it to distinguish these replicas from the real things? Could a collector be able to tell the difference without good pictures?

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 10:57 AM

The Not-Botcon Optimus Prime has "NOT FOR SALE" on his bumper and an extra crack painted in his window. The no Botcon Mirage is missing his rub symbol and has different copyright info from the real thing.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 10:53 AM

According to a recent update on this toy it will be out shortly, they are already taking pre-orders. It costs $40 plus shipping, slightly less if you want one without packaging. They also confirm there will be a KO Henkei Wildrider deco, but there WILL NOT be a KO Side Burn deco probably because they don't want to take sales away from the TFCC on a product they currently sell on their site.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 11:56 AM

QUOTE(mignash @ Aug 23 2011, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Not-Botcon Optimus Prime has "NOT FOR SALE" on his bumper and an extra crack painted in his window. The no Botcon Mirage is missing his rub symbol and has different copyright info from the real thing.

Of course, you still have to know that a near-replica KO exists and be looking for this sort of thing. All too easy for someone to throw something like this on ebay and fool people who won't discover it until months later, if ever... especially if the seller "corrects" some of the changes.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 12:25 PM

I might pick up that Wildrider KO. I had the original but sold him off awhile ago. Now seeing where the price has gone.....wow.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE(Lukeblast @ Aug 30 2011, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE(mignash @ Aug 23 2011, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Not-Botcon Optimus Prime has "NOT FOR SALE" on his bumper and an extra crack painted in his window. The no Botcon Mirage is missing his rub symbol and has different copyright info from the real thing.

Of course, you still have to know that a near-replica KO exists and be looking for this sort of thing. All too easy for someone to throw something like this on ebay and fool people who won't discover it until months later, if ever... especially if the seller "corrects" some of the changes.


Although you say this, I have never seen the PRIME on ebay, particularly since they have different packaging they are easier to tell apart. I have seen the Mirage, but not lately, and always sold as a KO or replica. Despite your worries, most people have been very honest about it. They are generally sold for people who can't aford the "real thing", not as schemes for people to trick people into paying too much.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 01:06 PM

Sweet packaging art. Wonder if they paid Nick Roche.



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