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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

HEEEEEEEEEEY FOODSTAMP LAAADAAAY

@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:11 AM)

@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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I want a Primax Toxitron toy


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#1 Jackpot

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 12:51 PM

When it became known that Toxitron was going to be a BC exlusive, I was stoked for an RtS Laser Prime repaint. And then disappointed to see it was an Animated version instead (though his incorporation into that universe was done well). Fun Pub has been known to make different-universe incarnations of the same character over time ? pre-BW Cheetor and Animated Cheetor, Classics Thundercracker and SG Thundercracker, G2 Breakdown and Animated Breakdown, etc. ? so I still have some fingers crossed that we'll see a Primax Toxitron eventually. But I wonder which mold would be best.

Originally I had no question about this; it was RtS Laser Prime all the way. And I would still love to see that. But in a thread on the TFCC forums, someone suggested DoTM Megatron, which I have to admit would be pretty fantastic too. It has the benefit of a tanker trailer, and Toxie is one of the very few Primax characters that the movie aesthetic would fit. There are multiple size options for Fun Pub to utilize, depending on how much they would want to invest in the project: Cyberverse Commander, Cyberverse Action Set, and Voyager. Of those, I would prefer the Voyager because Toxie should be as big and hulking as possible, and the shroud adds to the aura of hideousness. But Cyberverse is awesome, and the Action Set in particular would hearken to the original Laser Prime mold. In that respect, it's even more Toxitronny than the RtS mold.

What do you think? Which mold would you prefer, or do you even want another Toxie, having already gotten an Animated version?

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:07 PM

Any movie Megatron toy is definitely offlimits to FP. You'd have to depend on Hasbro.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:09 PM

I'm actually in the middle of this. When I first saw movie Megatron, he spoke to me.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:10 PM

Yeah Fun Pub can't use any Movie figures that appear in the films or are a licensed vehicle, so Megatron is out of the question.

I'd prefer him to be made from RtS Optimus like some customs shown on these boards.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:14 PM

NICKSTART, that thing is all the best kinds of ugly. icon-ironhide.gif

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:15 PM

QUOTE(Code of Walky @ Aug 14 2011, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any movie Megatron toy is definitely offlimits to FP. You'd have to depend on Hasbro.

Ah, well then. I have no hope of Hasbro doing this (as obscure as they've gotten lately, I think Toxie is still beyond their pale), so RtS Laser Prime it is. Which gets back to the other question: Do you even want to see another Toxitron at all? I definitely do, but I don't know how many folks might be fully satisfied with the Animated toy.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:18 PM

I've said it before... The majority of the appeal for Toxitron was in the spill deco on his trailer. The cab had nothing going for it as far as toxicity goes. It was just a green, purple and gray truck. I loved the purple and gray in robot mode, but...not "toxic".

So a RTS Prime, I feel, would be like half the toy. And the less interesting half of the toy at that.

Voyager Megatron would definitely be cool, but as has been said, Fun Pub couldn't do it.

(I do not want a RiD Scourge from RTS Prime either. As well-crafted as I've seen some customs, inevitably, the new transformation on RTS Prime ruins the Scourge homage.)

#8 NICK TYRANNO

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:26 PM

When done, there WILL be slime and an obnoxious name on that tanker.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE(NightViper @ Aug 14 2011, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've said it before... The majority of the appeal for Toxitron was in the spill deco on his trailer. The cab had nothing going for it as far as toxicity goes. It was just a green, purple and gray truck. I loved the purple and gray in robot mode, but...not "toxic".

I recall you saying that you didn't think Animated Toxie's drippy-gloop deco would match the RtS mold's realism, and I agree. But I do think a grungy "spray" paint-app, like he'd driven through toxic mud, would work quite well. The main benefit I see in the trailer is the idea that he's carrying the toxic waste – and in the Megatron molds, the tank becomes a cannon, which is perfect. But that's more of a luxury to me; the character-reference alone would be enough to make me buy it, trailer or no.

Edit: Oh, and yeah Nick, that's a great custom. Exactly the sort of thing I was picturing. It'll be awesome to see it with the "slime and an obnoxious name".

Edited by Jackpot, 14 August 2011 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 14 August 2011 - 02:45 PM

i was against the megatron mold until i saw nickstart's work. i'd be all for it if hasbro put that out.

but i'd really prefer toxitron to be done with the original laser prime mold just for the trailer. i'd rather have the rts mold done up as scourge

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE(NICKSTART @ Aug 14 2011, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm actually in the middle of this. When I first saw movie Megatron, he spoke to me.


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I made the grabby hands because I want it. I said I'd take any other head on that toy painted up as anyone else, but now I'm not sure if I can settle for anything short of that little pile of excellence you've created there. Well done.

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Posted 14 August 2011 - 07:42 PM

I'm largely on the side of RtS G2 Prime, but I do wonder if it might be possible to go in a different direction entirely, like using RtS Hailstorm/Mindset with a new head and recasting the "toxic" as him being a biowarfare psycho (or technowarfare, as it were).
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Posted 14 August 2011 - 11:51 PM

I'm not sure I'd want another Toxitron: the Animated toy did the concept rather well, and without the trailer, it leaves you wanting. I'd love that Movie Megatron concept, but it's impossible.

If FunPub's going to make RtS G2 Prime into anything, I'd rather he was re-decoed as Laser Ultra Magnus, if anything. But that's me.
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Posted 15 August 2011 - 01:03 AM

I wanna see it made from Energon Prime. With all his little drones all toxic'd up.

Also, mouthed version, so they can paint some goop dripping from it.

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Posted 15 August 2011 - 06:53 AM

I'm ambivalent about it, but I wouldn't object to a non-Animated version of Toxitron in the slightest, using RTS G2 Prime or not (though that seems the logical choice). A small part of me wishes they'd use the Armada Bendy Prime mold, however.
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#16 NICK TYRANNO

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 06:47 PM

Finally got around to wrapping up my Toxitron. I've got a thread full of pictures over in Iacon.



Also, I realized I still need to throw his name on him, but imagine it accross his bumper. Unfortunately the molded detail on the tanker makes anything short of an actual lithograph impossible, but Toxitron will not be denied.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 02:28 AM

I am eager to get Kre-O Toxitron.
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