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@  Pennpenn : (26 August 2016 - 12:55 AM)

Happy birthday to me!

@  OrionPax44 : (25 August 2016 - 04:50 PM)

Is the main dance move him flashing you in beat with the music?

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@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 04:48 PM)

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@  Broadside : (25 August 2016 - 04:45 PM)

Oppa Homeless Style?

@  LV! : (25 August 2016 - 01:01 PM)

That guy had a perfectly nice home, he just didn't want the neighbors to see you with him.

@  TheMightyMol... : (25 August 2016 - 11:52 AM)

Did you at least buy him dinner?

@  Robowang : (25 August 2016 - 11:14 AM)

So I was making out with this random old homeless guy, and he stops and is all like "Why are you making out with me?" and I'm just like "Shut up, Homeless Guy."

@  Benbot : (25 August 2016 - 07:34 AM)

What?

@  MEDdMI : (25 August 2016 - 05:58 AM)

Aren't we the ones causing trouble for Kalidor?

@  LBD "Nyt... : (25 August 2016 - 12:17 AM)

Also, anyone know how to find the rest of how Kalidor got a kid in trouuuuuubleee?

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@ TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 03:20 AM) Why do you hate yourself? -- I don't, really. Whether good or ill, I'd like to know how RG1 goes so, if nothing else, I can actually talk about it from a place of experience.

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:58 PM)

I've seen Minority Report, I don't want to read the same thing except with superheroes and also shit

@  Verity Carlo : (24 August 2016 - 06:57 PM)

You know, what I hate about Civil War II the most is that it's not even trying to break out of the Minority Report shaped hole it's in.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 02:39 PM)

the debate sems to be over.

@  MEDdMI : (24 August 2016 - 02:37 PM)

Wouldn't it be easier to debate this in the comics subforum?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:31 PM)

I don't have anything else to say (although I still think G2 is the true ending, even if G I Joe doesn't mention it, it seems G I Joe/G2 crossover isn't canon for G I Joe comics but only for the Transformers continuity)

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:29 PM)

ok whatever you won.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:27 PM)

that's why I said "if", I dunno I didn't read G2 or G I Joe. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:26 PM)

Also,you're still basing this entirely on G2 matching a storyline that was part of G2 itself rather than whether or not G2 matches better with the G1 comic proper.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:24 PM)

The idea kind of falls apart when it requires that the apocalyptic alien invasions had such little impact that everyone easily just ignored forever.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:17 PM)

If some issues of G I Joe comics is a prelude to G2 and if there's nothing in the future G I Joe stories that condradicts San Francisco getting destroyed, yes I would say they share a continuity. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

If you're gonna go "we can assume it did happen even though it's never talked about as long as nothing specifically contradicts it", then surely it's just as easy to assume that the actual G1 TF and Joe crossover happened in the backstory of Classics and RG1.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 01:02 PM)

also I refrained from mentioning Ask Vector Prime but but didn't it say RG1 is a splinter timeline?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:58 PM)

has san francisco ever appeared in G I Joe stories that was chronologically set after G2?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:55 PM)

Intent is not the same as result. And comics end up ignoring things quite often.

@  Telly : (24 August 2016 - 12:54 PM)

maybe they figured a lot of people that read gi joe also read transformers. so they throw a crossover/build up in their to get some excitement for the new comic coming

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:51 PM)

If G2 universe was to be unrelated to G I Joe, why did they do a prelude to it?

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:33 PM)

Classics and RG1 not including Joe issues 138-145 in their backstory does not preclude them from including TF 1-80, or even the Joe and TF miniseries.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:30 PM)

Marvel 616 is also a massive continuity snarl from dozens of writers altering, retconning, or ignoring each others' work for decades, so it's not really a great example for an argument on continuity.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:29 PM)

Marvel 616 continuity is a shared universe, devastating events happens in individual series but does mean every event gets mentioned in other comics? @Notvery knightly, yeah that's why I edited that post.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:27 PM)

Your proof for "TF universe = Joe universe" itself is the G2 lead-up, so your reasoning still goes back to G2 matching G2.

@  TheMightyMol... : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

So did GI Joe ever reference the time Bludgeon sent his entire force to rampage across the Earth? Or the time Jhiaxus blew San Francisco into a crater?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:25 PM)

whatever.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:22 PM)

Are you not seeing the recursiveness of "G2 is the true G1 sequel because G2 follows up on a G2 storyline"?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:18 PM)

Yeah it has been established that Marvel Transformers and G I Joe comics takes place in the same universe. Unless 90s G I Joe was a reboot I'm pretty sure the G2 crossing over to a G I Joe comic that takes place in the very same universe as the original Transformers makes G2 the canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:16 PM)

A crossover that the Joe comic apparently ignored.

@  Arazyr : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

They had a crossover before that, 1986. http://tfwiki.net/wi...he_Transformers

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:15 PM)

Did G.I. Joe acknowledge the planet getting wrecked by the Swarm? Because otherwise it's more like "Marvel Transformers is the same universe as Marvel G.I. Joe only when they feel like it".

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 12:11 PM)

You're using the G.I. Joe G2 prequel itself as the basis for "Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe", which makes this a rather loopy argument.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 12:07 PM)

As I said before, Marvel Transformers universe is the same universe as the Marvel G I Joe. Marvel G I Joe crossovers with G2, which makes G2 the canon ending. 

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:59 AM)

How is that relevant to whether or not RG1 (or Classics, even) takes place after issues 1 through 80 of Marvel TF proper?

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:51 AM)

it's a prequel to G2, which makes it the same universe as G2.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:48 AM)

That's clearly not in G2 itself, seeing as it's G.I. Joe issue 138.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:45 AM)

@NotVrtyKnightly Im talking about these issues. http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Unfoldings!

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:30 AM)

Now for my part, I consider Marvel G2/Alignment the "true" ending because of Simon Furman's involvement in it, its continuous narrative with Marvel G1, and its sequential publication.

@  SHIELD Agent 47 : (24 August 2016 - 11:28 AM)

The nature of multiple spinoffs/branching timelines means that to call any one spinoff the "true" ending is an arbitrary decision.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:16 AM)

Joe doesn't take place "in G2". Even their Marvel TF-related history isn't confined entirely to a single publication from the 90s.

@  tffan01 : (24 August 2016 - 11:08 AM)

Look, oirignal Marvel Transformers takes place in the same universe as G I Joe and G I Joe takes place in the same universe as G2, which makes G2 the true canon ending.

@  NotVeryKnightly : (24 August 2016 - 11:07 AM)

And it's not like anyone would argue that Rebirth wasn't actually the fourth season of the Sunbow cartoon entirely based on the lack of Ramirez and Old Snake.


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#1 Zodberg

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 07:31 AM

I tire of seeing the threads about various fan-projects to build replacement dinguses for dinobots. How about having them all funnelled into one place?
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 08:49 AM

Seconded.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 10:32 AM

Other than a few sporadic Takara exclusives, is there a lot more product to talk about right now that wouldn't fall under the DOTM subforum? I know if TF Discussion became all about Transformers-related word games and discussions about the use of fan terms, I'd just skip it.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:09 AM

Can't say splintering up Transformers discussions into multiple forums is convenient. Seems more like a cry for the people that simply don't want to see any of it anymore.
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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:36 AM

In my humble opinion, if we started making sub-forums for every bit of our Transformers universe that some people enjoy but bug the hell out of other people there'd be nothing in Transformers Discussion, it would just house a menu. I don't believe that's the direction we'll ever be taking.

I have my threads per page maxed out, and even then 3rd party threads only make up like 8 of 40. Not exactly overrunning the forum. This is just my personal opinion but if this were something I was voting on, I'd vote no. Things are fine as is. icon-ironhide.gif

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#6 Kalidor

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 01:53 PM

I'm not against the idea of creating a more tailored set of subforums. But I'm not sure that the reason presented is a very good one.

There will be a lot of changes with the new site and some of them will be experimental, so all ideas are welcome.

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#7 Zodberg

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 03:09 AM

I agree with the op that these threads are getting out of hand. Each time a new company has a new screenshot of something that might not even be produced there's a new thread and the same sequence of people saying "want" or "do not want".
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 07:44 AM

QUOTE(Zodberg @ Aug 4 2011, 04:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with the op that these threads are getting out of hand. Each time a new company has a new screenshot of something that might not even be produced there's a new thread and the same sequence of people saying "want" or "do not want".


But that's the case for pretty much any thread on anything. News comes, it's posted, and people say they love it or hate it. It just seems some people are extra annoyed by third party news because they have a particular distaste for the other sides opinion. "Totally reprehensible illegal IP theft" people are never going to agree with "hug you give me my toy" people and since apparently just accepting the opinion of someone who disagrees with you as valid and moving on isn't an option the debate must be had.

That being said, if someone wanted to take on the responsibility of starting a "FAN PROJECTS THIRD PARTY THREAD", "TF CLUB THIRD PARTY THREAD", "iGEAR THIRD PARTY THREAD" and so on thread(s) and then updating the sub-title when new things come around that would probably be great and cut down on the sheer volume. Just like the only reason General Discussion isn't chock full of pro wrestling threads is that we got around to making a catch all thread.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE(Wheelimus @ Aug 4 2011, 08:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That being said, if someone wanted to take on the responsibility of starting a "FAN PROJECTS THIRD PARTY THREAD", "TF CLUB THIRD PARTY THREAD", "iGEAR THIRD PARTY THREAD" and so on thread(s) and then updating the sub-title when new things come around that would probably be great and cut down on the sheer volume. Just like the only reason General Discussion isn't chock full of pro wrestling threads is that we got around to making a catch all thread.


I wholeheartedly agree with the above.

And maybe that will cut down on people mislabeling the companies and/or products. It's a bit aggravating when someone calls everything "iGear" icon-fire.gif

#10 Kalidor

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:51 PM

I moved all the 3rd party topics I noticed from the first 3 pages. We'll see how this works out.

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:52 PM

^ You missed the Exgraver thread icon-waspy.gif

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:58 PM

Ha Ha love the name. Big Bot eat your heart out
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#13 Kalidor

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 04:59 PM

Hehe...

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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:11 PM

I don't care for it, much like the other sub-forums. TF discussion is TF discussion and I think all these forums stifle regular discussion flow and try to keep things too narrow.

The jivey movie may have dominated the board a few weeks ago, but I'd still rather see those threads in one forum. People can figure it out and read what they want to read. I'm not here to find indexed information, I'm here because it is usually interesting. I've never understood things like subforums and the ignore feature - is browsing a message board really that hard?
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Posted 04 August 2011 - 10:30 PM

wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?



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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:51 AM

I should be the mod of the new forum.
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 08:41 AM

I like it! More organization is never a bad thing. icon-ironhide.gif
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Posted 05 August 2011 - 10:07 AM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?

Suck it, Hasbro.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 01:44 PM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?


IF HAZBLOW MADE THE TOYS WE WANT WE WOULDN'T NEED A THIRD PARTY FORUM BUT THEY HATE MONEY AND THE FANS AND ESPECIALLY THEY HATE THE FANS'S MONEY.

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Posted 05 August 2011 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE(Darkstream @ Aug 4 2011, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wouldnt this go towards promoting these things and therefore pissing off Hasbro?

Hasbro's made of adults. If they want us to stop, they can write us a letter and tell us why and if they have some good reasons we'll comply. But honestly I think if fan-productions were suddenly their enemy, they would contact the companies before they contacted the message boards and I'm not sure of them having any record of doing that.
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